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Re: OWS

Unread post by rstrong » Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:14 pm

Vrede too wrote:
Fri Sep 15, 2017 10:23 am
Petition to Congress:

"Oppose Trump-Republican tax plans that give huge tax breaks to millionaires and wealthy corporations, paid for by cutting Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, education, medical research, Meals on Wheels and road repairs. We need real tax reform to make sure the wealthy and big corporations pay their fair share."
Splinter sums up the Trump tax plan, with plenty of citations:

The Trump Tax Plan Is an American Catastrophe
- This plan lowers the tax rate on the highest earners and raises the lowest tax rate.

- This plan will add trillions of dollars to the U.S. deficit, despite the Republican insistence that they are the anti-deficit party.

- The entire premise of these huge tax cuts—that they will spur job creation and other economic activity by companies, which will benefit the vast middle class of workers—has been disproven in practice. It doesn’t work! What companies have been shown to do after huge tax cuts is to buy back their own stock, raising their stock price and giving a raise to their executives. What does this do for average workers? Less than nothing. But those executives will now have to pay even less taxes on the raises they are certain to give themselves, so that’s nice.

- This plan repeals the estate tax, which only applies to couples with estates worth more than $11 million—the top 0.2% of richest people in America. This repeal alone would save Donald Trump’s family and the family of several of his cabinet members hundreds of millions of dollars each.

- It will preserve the foolish (but beloved) mortgage interest tax break for homeowners—but changes will ensure that only “people with very large charitable contributions or million-dollar homes will benefit from it.”

- This plan will allow many rich business owners to lower their own tax rates from nearly 40% to 25%.

- This plan will funnel hundreds of billions of dollars into the pockets of the rich at a time of persistent and growing inequality. The richest 1% of Americans now control almost 39% of our nation’s wealth, up from 36% just four years ago. The Republican tax plan will make the concentration of wealth worse, not better.

- The president and his top officials are lying about the effects of this tax plan to the public. Lying. Telling stone cold lies. Provable untruths. Lies.

- Sorry to repeat this one but HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE GONE INTO THE PUBLIC TREASURY WILL INSTEAD GO INTO THE POCKETS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY AND THE FAMILIES OF HIS CABINET MEMBERS.

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Re: OWS

Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:05 pm

rstrong wrote:
Thu Sep 28, 2017 3:14 pm
... - The president and his top officials are lying about the effects of this tax plan to the public. Lying. Telling stone cold lies. Provable untruths. Lies.

- Sorry to repeat this one but HUNDREDS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS THAT WOULD HAVE GONE INTO THE PUBLIC TREASURY WILL INSTEAD GO INTO THE POCKETS OF THE TRUMP FAMILY AND THE FAMILIES OF HIS CABINET MEMBERS.
Trump Could Save More Than $1 Billion Under His New Tax Plan

President Trump could cut his tax bills by more than $1.1 billion, including saving tens of millions of dollars in a single year, under his proposed tax changes, a New York Times analysis has found.

On Wednesday, the White House announced a sweeping plan to cut a variety of taxes that would overwhelmingly benefit the wealthy. The estimate of Mr. Trump’s savings is based in part on information from his 2005 federal tax return. The analysis compares what his tax burden would be under current law with what it would be under the proposal.

Mr. Trump’s 2005 return is the most recent available publicly and was released in March by David Cay Johnston, a former New York Times reporter. The Times’s figure also relies on an estimate of Mr. Trump’s net worth, calculated by the Bloomberg Billionaire’s Index to be $2.86 billion.

“I don’t benefit. I don’t benefit,” Mr. Trump said on Wednesday. “In fact, very, very strongly, as you see, I think there’s very little benefit for people of wealth.”

In fact, high-income earners like Mr. Trump are likely to benefit disproportionately if the White House proposal becomes law....
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Re: OWS

Unread post by rstrong » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:09 pm

"It's not good for me. Believe me."
- Donald Trump on his tax plan.

I'm not insulting Trump voters when I call them gullible delusional submoronic inbreds. Believe me.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Sep 29, 2017 2:52 pm

An analysis of whether he has ever said, "Believe me," and not been lying would be interesting.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Oct 03, 2017 3:14 pm

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Re: OWS

Unread post by rstrong » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:27 pm

JP Morgan-Chase paid its billions in fines for mortgage fraud by committing billions in mortgage fraud
In February 2012, JP Morgan-Chase agreed to pay $5.1B in restitution for its mortgage fraud, which included widescale foreclosures on people who were not even Morgan-Chase customers -- the company forged documents that allowed them to seize random houses and sell them out from under their owners on the strength of "robo-signed" paperwork produced by sleazy boiler-rooms where untrained people rubberstamped paperwork after less than 3 seconds' worth of scrutiny.

The $4.2B that Morgan-Chase was supposed to pay in kind was to come in the form of debt forgiveness to borrowers who were about to lose their homes, but rather than do this, Morgan-Chase found a way to forgive the loans of people who didn't owe Chase any money (!), and to pull a list of other baroque cons that threw cities into chaos and revictimized people who'd lost their houses due to Morgan-Chase's brutal foreclosure policies.

(You may be sensing a pattern at this point)

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Oct 07, 2017 2:33 pm

My list for 3 biggest Obama failures:

Not prosecuting the bankers that caused the Shrubcession.
Not prosecuting war crimes including torture.
The Afghanistan escalation.
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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Sat Oct 07, 2017 4:02 pm

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My list for 3 biggest Obama failures:

Not prosecuting the bankers that caused the Shrubcession.
Not prosecuting war crimes including torture.
The Afghanistan escalation.
I would add

Not putting more effort into selling a better health care system rather than a free meal to the insurance companies
and making the Bush tax cuts for the rich permanent before the people fully understood the reason they were temporary and that they had failed miserably.

but then, both of those and your #1 do have something in common

This democratic party ain't the liberals we used to be.
George Carlin said “The owners know the truth. It’s called the American dream because you have to be asleep to believe it.”

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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Oct 07, 2017 5:18 pm

Your 2 definitely had a big impact, bigger than all of mine except maybe Vietnam, opps Afghanistan. To me, the complexity of how they came about make including them a bit iffier.
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Unread post by rstrong » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:22 am

Daphne Caruana Galizia, the journalist who led the Panama Papers offshore tax evasion expose, was assasinated yesterday by a car bomb in northern Malta.

She also wrote an expose of the Maltese Economy minister and his consultant visited a brothel in Germany while on government business. Her son is also a journalist and wrote stories linking Maltese politicians to the Panama Papers. They were not pleased.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Oct 17, 2017 11:39 am

Looks like the entire car was blown at least 8 yards by the blast. Maltese perps would seem the most likely, but could have been anyone from scores of countries including the US.

RIP, hero.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Nov 01, 2017 12:42 am

Donald Trump Jr.‏ Verified account
@DonaldJTrumpJr

I’m going to take half of Chloe’s candy tonight & give it to some kid who sat at home. It’s never to early to teach her about socialism.

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You mean the candy that she got for free out of the goodness of strangers' hearts?
:lol: :lol: :lol:
Take 80% of her candy and give it to the top 1% of trick or treaters. You know like your dads' tax plan.
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I think sharing with those that are less fortunate than you is a universal human value. Perhaps you could (teach) her that.
We had candy left over. My daughter asked to take it to school to share w/kids whose families don't have $ for luxuries. I'm a socialist.

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Good prep for when Mueller takes half her family and gives it to prison. Makes her costume a tad ironic though.
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My man, "socialism" was her getting that free candy in the first place. You taking half for reasons she can't understand is capitalism
:---P
Better idea: have her take out loans, use the money to buy and eat candy, then default and declare bankruptcy. That's the Trump way.
:---P
Sick to use your kid for political ends.
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It's "TOO," not "TO." As in it's never TOO late for Chloe to teach you 2nd-grade English.
Decent families call it kindness.
Halloween candy are literally handouts you wooden clod
Why don't you take a third of it and give it all to people who already have billions of pieces of candy
maybe u should teach her how to visit u and grandpa in prison... u deluded spawn of satan
One day, you’re going to have to explain to your daughter that you tweeted a picture of her as a mean-spirited joke. Good luck with that.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Wed Nov 01, 2017 9:06 am

Man who inherited money from his father, who inherited it from *his* father, has lessons on making it on your own.
J.K. Rowling
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Fill her bucket with old candy left by her great-grandfather, then explain that she has more because she's smarter than all the other kids.
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Unread post by rstrong » Thu Nov 02, 2017 3:50 pm

Techdirt: FCC Boss Demolishes Media Ownership Rules In Massive Gift To Sinclair Broadcasting
That has included killing an 80 year rule intended to protect local competitors and journalism from unchecked monopoly control of a market, and taking an axe to some protections but bringing back others solely to Sinclair's benefit:

"On Tuesday, the FCC eliminated a requirement for broadcasters to keep a local studio. A day later, Pai called for easing ownership restrictions, potentially taking pressure off Sinclair’s $3.9 billion deal for Tribune Media Co.’s TV stations. Earlier, he had restored an obsolete rule, making the deal possible.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Nov 07, 2017 5:41 pm

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Unread post by Vrede too » Thu Nov 09, 2017 10:43 pm

Found:
Reagan called it "trickle down economics" and it was a colossal failure. Deplorable Donnie's administration includes at least six former Goldman Sachs executives. Instead of "trickle down economics", their economic program will give Americans a GOLDMAN SHOWER.
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