Hobby Fall-Out

[O Really]

Here it comes...
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/0 ... picks=true

[bannination]

Here it comes...
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/0 ... picks=true

I can't wait until some Muslims or Jews start pushing something wacky in their religion.... talk about a firestorm then.

[O Really]

Here it comes...
http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2014/0 ... picks=true

I can't wait until some Muslims or Jews start pushing something wacky in their religion.... talk about a firestorm then.

Gar-on-tee it will happen. Not to mention the Church of Body Modification and these guys... http://www.churchofsatan.com/

[Mr.B]

"..Lindsay “has made Gordon a fortress of faith rather than a place where the doors are open to people who want to be part of a conversation about
what it means to be a Christian,” said Paul Miller, 29, a co-founder of LGBTQ organization OneGordon....."

"Christian" and "LGBTQ" don't even belong in the same sentence. If Miller is so adamant about his lifestyle, why do you reckon he attended Gordon College to begin with, knowing it was a Christian college? Why do you reckon he kept his orientation a secret?

So Miller believes that religious organizations should have no right to be a "fortress of faith"?

The people "who want to be a part of" are nothing more than those who desire to see religion removed from American society all together, and they're using the homosexual agenda to tear down any mention of religion.

If "gays" want to be "gays", that's their business, and they have the right to be "gay"; however, Christians have the right to be Christians and to adhere to their religious beliefs in their teachings.

You all call those who believe homosexuality is a deviant lifestyle bigots, homophobes, and other hateful names......what do you call the "gays" who seek to eradicate
a God-believing lifestyle?

The hateful antics of homosexuality is like a cancer eating away at the fiber of any decency left in America.

[bannination]

"..Lindsay “has made Gordon a fortress of faith rather than a place where the doors are open to people who want to be part of a conversation about
what it means to be a Christian,” said Paul Miller, 29, a co-founder of LGBTQ organization OneGordon....."

"Christian" and "LGBTQ" don't even belong in the same sentence.

A lot of Christians disagree with you.

[bannination]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconno ... ocreation/

<sigh>

Hobby Lobby Fallout: Catholic Soy Milk Mogul Won't Cover Drugs That 'Prevent Procreation'

[Mr.B]

http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconno ... ocreation/

<sigh>

Hobby Lobby Fallout: Catholic Soy Milk Mogul Won't Cover Drugs That 'Prevent Procreation'

Win or lose, ar least they're getting the opportunity to speak their minds concerning their religious beliefs.

You libs are all the time moaning about government intrusion in our lives.....what is this issue about anyway but government intrusion and attack on our religious beliefs?

[O Really]

It has nothing to do with your (or their) personal religious beliefs, Mr.B, and you know it. Nobody is making these people use contraceptives or buy them for their families. Nobody is making them get abortions or hang out with ol' John Barleycorn. Nobody keeps them from going to church or praying whenever they like. Nobody is keeping them from establishing churches or religious organizations. What we're talking about are corporations and public non-profits, who have as employees and customers those of different beliefs, incorporated and licensed as secular entities.

[Mr.B]

...but the gummit is attempting to force corporations pay for those contraceptives that no one is making them use. :-0?>

[rstrong]

Of course, Hobby Lobby itself provided the emergency contraceptives Plan B and Ella to employees as part of their insurance plan before ObamaCare.

And their employee 401(k) plan, for which Hobby Lobby matches employee contributions, has more than $73 million invested in mutual funds, some of which invest in manufacturers of contraception, including some forms which are specifically named in the complaint, even though there exist several boutique mutual funds that specifically screen companies that are not in line with their client's religious beliefs.

But if their god (that is, the Republican Party during an election year) tells them to block family planning in favor of a statistical increase in abortions, that's their prerogative.

[O Really]

...but the gummit is attempting to force corporations pay for those contraceptives that no one is making them use. :-0?>

No, actually the law is in two parts: (a) employers with more than 50 employees have to provide health insurance for their employees; and (b) part of a list of things health insurance companies have to include in their policies is contraceptives (along with things like mental health care, since 1995). Employers haven't had the option to nit-pick the coverage offered by their carriers for quite a while. As to the "pay for" they will continue to do so through their premiums, because their rates won't go down just because the Supremes say they don't have to include contraceptives on their policy. If you buy a new car and don't like the cup holders, the dealer might take them off, but s/he won't reduce the price for doing so and in fact might charge you more. I wouldn't be surprised if Hobby Lobby's actual charges turn out to be higher because of the "customization."

[Wneglia]

SCOTUS has allowed Hobby Lobby to narrow the list of available contraceptives for employees to 16 much in the same way that Obamacare has allowed insurance companies to deny access to healthcare by significantly narrowing the list of providers in a given plan. So much for "If you like your doctor, you can keep your doctor". If you want a doctor not on the list, you pay for out of network. If you work for Hobby Lobby and want plan B or an IUD, you pay for it.

[bannination]

Uncanny.

Holly Hobby Lobby

http://freethoughtblogs.com/pharyngula/ ... -a-mirror/






The muslim even has better firearm safety, doesn't look like her finger is on the trigger unlike derp head `merican there.

[billy.pilgrim]

but both are morons

all we need is a jew with a gun to have a matched set of genocidal moses followers

[Mr.B]

Since you are clueless about what's behind this photo, sit down a moment and I'll explain it to you.....
(1)..The Bible represents the freedom of religion as well as this country's being founded on God's Word. Whatever you et al take as God's Word is open to your own interpretation, and the same freedom we enjoy in the freedom of religion gives you the right to freedom from religion.

(2)..The flag represents the founding of a free nation; again, you have the choice to honor or dishonor the flag. Our freedoms were not won overnight, and the flag represents a sovereign nation beholden to no one, (except China maybe ) and respect for the many thousands that sacrificed their lives to ensure those freedoms we enjoy.

I had much rather see this flag waving instead of one representing any other nation or ideology.

(3)..Lastly, the gun. The Constitution of The United States guarantees it's citizens the right to bear arms. Imagine for a moment that our forefathers attempted to fight the British and Spanish with rocks or spears...(they had guns). Had we not had guns, the Americas would be paying homage to a queen, king, or some spoiled prince; or we could be under total Spanish, Portuguese, or French rule.


The muslim even has better firearm safety, doesn't look like her finger is on the trigger unlike derp head `merican there.

The Muslim in the photo may have been forced in that pose. Al-Quaida, or whoever that photo represents, isn't interested in any country's freedoms, their interest is in total dominace of the world, subject to their radical ideology. There is no freedom of religion, there is no freedom from religion. An atheist will be shot or beheaded just as quick as a Christian or anyone else who doesn't conform to their way of thinking. They are not unlike the "Borg" in the former 'Star Trek' TV series.....
be assimilated, or die.

I'd much rather see a "derp head" holding that weapon over a radical Muslim any day. A "derp head" may one day save your ass.

[billy.pilgrim]

bb - your ignorance is astounding

[Mr.B]

bb - your ignorance is astounding

Not to mention Mr.B's jingoistic bigotry.

Thank you. You are welcome to move to another country if you desire change....that's another freedom, btw.

[O Really]

Well, I guess you get an A in creative interpretation, Mr.B, but you probably don't want to get out of the fiction section.
(BTW, what is your interpretation in the pic that the US flag is displayed backwards?)

[rstrong]

Not to mention Mr.B's jingoistic bigotry.

Thank you. You are welcome to move to another country if you desire change....that's another freedom, btw.

Mr.B twists Christianity to support his hate and bigotry, so it should come as no surprise that he twists patriotism to do the same.

[Mr.B]

"Well, I guess you get an A in creative interpretation, Mr.B, but you probably don't want to get out of the fiction section."


"(BTW, what is your interpretation in the pic that the US flag is displayed backwards?)"
Inasmuch as flags aren't made with the star fields on opposite ends to accommodate which way they're facing, I'd say it would be correct if she were standing on the other side of the flag, or if the flag was displayed upright, huh? You get an A for disambiguation.

"Mr.B twists Christianity to support his hate and bigotry, so it should come as no surprise that he twists patriotism to do the same."
Yeah, God save the queen and all that. Your country is still under the influence of the French and British. That flag and our guns broke us free from all that monarchy garbage....unless of course you're counting Obama.