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Re: Trump

Unread post by Boatrocker » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:26 am

"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, July 26, 1920, in The Baltimore Evening Sun

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Feb 28, 2017 12:26 pm

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Vrede too wrote:CiC - Crybaby in Chief.
POUTUS.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by JTA » Tue Feb 28, 2017 4:25 pm

I had started a twitter account keeping track of all the dumb shit the the Trump administration has done, but there's so much I've almost given up.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Feb 28, 2017 6:40 pm

Vrede too wrote:"Nobody knew that health care could be so complicated."
-- President* Donald Trump, today.

:?: :?: :?: The rest of us knew.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by rstrong » Tue Feb 28, 2017 8:01 pm

A new Trump Tower opened in Vancouver today. The opening was attended by the Trumpspawn "blind trust."

Stop me if you've heard this one before... Turns out the tower is several stories shorter than claimed in the marketing materials. They included the below-ground floors in the count.

Which explains Trump's inaugural attendance figures. Obviously he's counting the below-ground attendees in Arlington National Cemetery.

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Feb 28, 2017 11:23 pm

I live in a 2nd floor condo with a crawl space under the building. So, my height is about 17 feet.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Tue May 09, 2017 12:47 pm

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O Really on Jul 20, 2016 wrote:We (the citizens) get pretty much the candidates we deserve....
Agreed, though it's sad. I've never been profoundly shocked by an election result and if Trump is elected, though depressing it won't surprise me that much nor tell me anything about US voters that I don't already know.
Obama: ‘You get the politicians you deserve’

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Thu May 11, 2017 6:13 am

neoplacebo on Feb 07, 2017 wrote:I predicted earlier that President* Trump will be gone by the end of October. I am now changing my mind....he'll be gone by the end of July.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by O Really » Thu May 11, 2017 8:32 am

Maybe, maybe not. He's certainly exceeded any rational expectations so far, even while totally ignoring all historical norms. But - he's collecting huge numbers of major enemies, probably more every day, and picking up no new friends. Even his Republican toadies don't really have much if anything to gain from him and surely would rather have Pence or any other standard right-winger. And his enemies aren't just political foes. Entire departments or agencies hate him. He could maybe withstand the enemies if he was attracting strong friends, but nobody in politics (or most anywhere else) can survive when essentially everybody is after your head. Not even some other famous tyrants/strongmen. Not to be Godwined out of the discussion, but even Hitler had more friends. Trump isn't even trying to attract new support. And he keeps creating more scandal and ammunition for the enemies. July or October, whenever...he's doomed.

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Re: Trump

Unread post by rstrong » Thu May 11, 2017 9:07 am

O Really wrote:Even his Republican toadies don't really have much if anything to gain from him and surely would rather have Pence or any other standard right-winger.
I disagree. Trump is useful to them. They can gut healthcare, gut environmental protections, gut education, end taxes for the rich.... and blame it all on Trump. They wrote Bush II and his legacy out of history in 2008 and 2012. And if someone else mentioned him, well, "Bush wasn't really a Republican."

Trump lets them avoid the political consequences of anything they do.

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Boatrocker » Thu May 11, 2017 9:50 am

rstrong wrote: . . . Trump lets them avoid the political consequences of anything they do.
I might suggest that it's the inability and unwillingness of the wingnut voter base to deal with facts, figures and other reality-based shit lets that happen.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Thu May 11, 2017 9:51 am

rstrong wrote:... Trump lets them avoid the political consequences of anything they do.
Reasonable idea, but I'm not sure that's working out for them.

Gotta Love those GOP Town Halls

Plus, by next year even more folks will want to vote for the pols that are most likely to impeach and convict.
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Unread post by rstrong » Thu May 11, 2017 10:01 am

Even impeachment works for Republicans.

With their majority in Congress, it'll be Republicans who will do it. Once they get enough of their agenda done - healthcare, environment, education and taxes for the rich further gutted - THEY pull the plug on Trump. And they'll keep reminding people that THEY rescued the country from him. Like Bush II, "He wasn't really a Republican."

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Boatrocker » Thu May 11, 2017 10:05 am

Vrede too wrote:
rstrong wrote:... Trump lets them avoid the political consequences of anything they do.
Reasonable idea, but I'm not sure that's working out for them.

Gotta Love those GOP Town Halls

Plus, by next year even more folks will want to vote for the pols that are most likely to impeach and convict.
Hard to say. I suspect that a large number of those booing and howling at town halls, et al, are not actually folks who voted for the assholes. Hard to say. NO ONE I know, who has supported the trumphole or his posse, has showed the slightest outward sign of displeasure with any of them. You may have seen the Miami businessman who sued him for an unpaid bill and won, but says he voted for the thief-in-chief and would again.
Sometimes, rationale and reason and facts and logic just can't compete with pure, damned stoopit.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by Boatrocker » Thu May 11, 2017 10:07 am

rstrong wrote:Even impeachment works for Republicans.

With their majority in Congress, it'll be Republicans who will do it. Once they get enough of their agenda done - healthcare, environment, education and taxes for the rich further gutted - THEY pull the plug on Trump. And they'll keep reminding people that THEY rescued the country from him. Like Bush II, "He wasn't really a Republican."
And that will probably work for them. As I said,
Sometimes, rationale and reason and facts and logic just can't compete with pure, damned stoopit.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Thu May 11, 2017 10:21 am

Could be, but I find it hard to imagine a majority GOP Congress impeaching and convicting. Even then, the cretinous loyalty of Trumpettes will rip the party up while the Dems will be able to run ads saying that they were the ones that stood unanimous or nearly so against Trump. I don't see impeachment until at least 2019.
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Re: Trump

Unread post by rstrong » Thu May 11, 2017 10:29 am

Vrede too wrote:I don't see impeachment until at least 2019.
Yup. As an election ploy, with constant reminders that it was REPUBLICANS who impeached him, not the Democrats who were responsible for his election in the first place. (I've already seen the latter claim a few times.)

But they may very well do it before the mid-terms.

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Thu May 11, 2017 10:37 am

rstrong wrote:... Democrats who were responsible for his election in the first place....
I can't argue with that.
Vrede too on Jul 24, 2016 wrote:Given that Bernie's democratic socialism is well known, that he didn't temper his agenda during the yearlong campaign, that he did better than Hillary in all polls vs. Trump, and that the effectiveness of theoretical ads against him is speculative, if Trump wins it will have been that your vote for Hillary was a vote for Trump. :P
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Re: Trump

Unread post by rstrong » Thu May 11, 2017 10:59 am

Vrede too wrote:if Trump wins it will have been that your vote for Hillary was a vote for Trump. :P
Good thing I didn't vote for Hillary.

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Re: Trump

Unread post by Vrede too » Thu May 11, 2017 11:09 am

rstrong wrote:Good thing I didn't vote for Hillary.
I did, in the general. I don't recall you saying who you would have voted for in the primaries if you could have.

I do understand that you may have had to go with homeboy Ted Cruz. :P
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