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Vrede too wrote:Poetic justice that Ken Starr was forced to resign his position as Chancellor at Baylor University over a rape, sexual assault and coverup scandal.
Well, sure. And Newt Gingrich was having an affair the entire time that he was leading the attacks on Clinton for having affair.

No poetic justice though. As always, It's OK If You're A Republican.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:Did you see his statement from about a week before he lost the chancellor position?
The lying sack if shit offered an apology for his partisan assassination attempt of the Clinton presidency over sexual misconduct.
waaaa, waaaa, waaa
No, I missed that one.
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Vrede too wrote:
billy.pilgrim wrote:Did you see his statement from about a week before he lost the chancellor position?
The lying sack if shit offered an apology for his partisan assassination attempt of the Clinton presidency over sexual misconduct.
waaaa, waaaa, waaa
No, I missed that one.

This has a reference to the apology, but I could find anything from when it happened, my searches come up with current info no matter what I try.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:This has a reference to the apology ...
Did you forget to post a link?
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Vrede too wrote:The Department of Justice (DOJ) appointment of a special prosecutor is a good thing, but one potential negative is that it may give the GOP the cover it needs to do nothing. Special prosecutors generally conduct their investigations in secret. We also deserve the public testimony that congressional investigations afford.
The petition to House Republicans reads:

“Your constituents deserve an impartial investigation into Donald Trump’s ties to Russia. Your party’s leaders are refusing to authorize one, but you should not help enable their political game playing. Sign on to the discharge petition demanding a vote on the Protecting Our Democracy Act.”
This ACLU petition is to all of Congress:

Call for a select committee on Trump campaign ties to Russia
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Theorizing:

President* Trump could leave one way or the other.
Pence might be involved in the coverup, how deeply we don't know.
Ryan is next in line unless Pence has enough time to get a VP confirmed.

Best of all outcomes and ignoring probabilities, who would you prefer?

I'd go with Ryan. My thinking is that Dolt .45 is crazy and dangerous, Pence is evil and Ryan is just very bad.
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I'd go for Ryan. He is a right-wing extremist (aren't all Republicans anymore?), but he hasn't had much luck in getting much support for his crazier starving grandma type ideas. And he's not that good at getting consensus or getting things done. He could possibly be ineffectually harmless for a couple of years and then not get re-elected. But he's not totally without shit on his hands in all the Trump cesspool. Could be we'd get President Hatch, who surely wouldn't even run for another term.

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O Really wrote:... But he's not totally without shit on his hands in all the Trump cesspool....
Other than being a typical partisan hack, you think there's more?
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Vrede too wrote:
O Really wrote:... But he's not totally without shit on his hands in all the Trump cesspool....
Other than being a typical partisan hack, you think there's more?
There's a good chance that RyanCare and RyanCare - Trump Edition will be used against him.

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I only meant succession or something that would prevent it, I'm sure that Ryan can lose an election.

Found: "Putin refers to him as Agent Orange."
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Vrede too wrote:
O Really wrote:... But he's not totally without shit on his hands in all the Trump cesspool....
Other than being a typical partisan hack, you think there's more?
Well, f'rinstance ... https://www.palmerreport.com/politics/i ... ndal/2333/

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Ah, hadn't seen that, thanks. We'll see. President Hatch, wouldn't that just be the icing on this fruitcake of a year?
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Vrede too wrote:Theorizing:

President* Trump could leave one way or the other.
Pence might be involved in the coverup, how deeply we don't know.
Ryan is next in line unless Pence has enough time to get a VP confirmed.

Best of all outcomes and ignoring probabilities, who would you prefer?

I'd go with Ryan. My thinking is that Dolt .45 is crazy and dangerous, Pence is evil and Ryan is just very bad.
I'd settle for Ryan. He is not much, on his own, and I think he may be easier to manage, manipulate and intimidate in a post-trumphole congress. But, that's just a guess. My real preference is Warren.
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I'm not sure where she is in the line of succession. ;)
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Vrede too wrote:I'm not sure where she is in the line of succession. ;)
Maybe on the 2020 version.

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We'll see. I wish that she had switched parties and risen to prominence when she was younger. She'll be 71 in 2020, not impossible as we've seen, but less likely. Too bad that resignation, impeachment or the 25th Amendment doesn't spark a special election like it often does in lesser races.
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Vrede too wrote:I'm not sure where she is in the line of succession. ;)
Just voicing a general preference, regardless of succession, of which there are NO good choices.
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Potential 2020 Dems look beyond Trump

Sen. Kamala Harris (D-Calif.)
Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand (N.Y.)
Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.)
Los Angeles Mayor Eric Garcetti
Govs. Steve Bullock (Mont.) and Terry McAuliffe (Va.)
Sens. Chris Murphy (Conn.), Cory Booker (N.J.) and Amy Klobuchar (Minn.)
Former Missouri Secretary of State Jason Kander
Hillary Clinton?
Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.)?
Not Tim Kaine?

But, it's early.
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Problem is, most of the Dems don't have much of a national name recognition. Good example being Martin O'Malley (yeah, I know - Martin Who?) On paper, you couldn't draw up a better Presidential candidate. Extensive experience in politics including campaign management, mayor of Baltimore, two-term governor, solid progressive record, no known scandals. Maybe he just picked a bad year, what with Hillary around, but it wasn't Hillary who kept him from getting traction. Nobody knew who he is or had ever heard of anything he'd done. Those people on that list are going to need to make a splash at something, and do it bigly and soon.

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Boring. :yawn:

Too much experience. Just another bureacratic suit.

In all seriousness though, I think that's the route we're going. Like you said, he needs to make a splash otherwise voters won't become "engaged". It's really unfortunate. Too bad I can't land a high paying career as a doctor or engineer by being boisterous and speaking what's on my mind.

For many voters, political experience is a huge red flag when electing a politician. :crazy:
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