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Trump Nocare

Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Fri Mar 17, 2017 6:56 am

Time to call it what it is and give it it's own special place here.

6 billion taken from the National Institute of Health

It would take pages to list what these folks have done and are doing, but we can say goodbye to a lot of what they are now doing

and all for yet another huge tax cut for the rich


24 million to lose health care


http://time.com/4704824/petition-remove ... subsidies/


Petition here

https://www.change.org/p/remove-health- ... r-families
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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri Mar 17, 2017 11:10 am

Trump admits his health care plan would benefit rich investors, screw over people who voted for him
He didn’t even pretend otherwise.


... Here’s the full exchange, which speaks for itself:

CARLSON: This bill has as one of its centerpieces a tax-cut for investors that would primarily benefit people making over $250,000 a year. They’ve already done pretty well in the past ten years, as you know.

TRUMP: Yeah.

CARLSON: A Bloomberg analysis showed that counties that voted for you — middle-class and working-class counties — would do far less well under this bill —

TRUMP: Yeah. Oh, I know.

CARLSON: — than the counties that voted for Hillary, the more affluent counties.

TRUMP: I know. It’s very preliminary.

CARLSON: It seems like maybe this isn’t consistent with the last election.

TRUMP: No. A lot of things aren’t consistent. But this is going to be negotiated.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:48 pm

Stop the Republican assault on Medicare and Medicaid

The petition to Congress reads:

"Reject any legislation that cuts, weakens or privatizes Medicare or Medicaid. Tens of millions of Americans rely on these critical programs. Congress must expand these programs to cover more people, not cut them to give millionaires and billionaires huge tax breaks."
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Unread post by bannination » Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:38 pm

I hate that it hurts anyone -- don't get me wrong.... but it's hilarious that an overwhelming percentage of people it's going to hurt are Trump voters in the first place.

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Unread post by Vrede too » Tue Mar 21, 2017 3:43 pm

bannination wrote:I hate that it hurts anyone -- don't get me wrong.... but it's hilarious that an overwhelming percentage of people it's going to hurt are Trump voters in the first place.
Yeah, but we've seen what happens when poorly educated working class white voters are economically stressed. It's not pretty.

This Thursday, March 23, the U.S. House will vote on legislation that would kick 24 million people off their healthcare and give a $600 billion tax break mostly to the wealthy and big healthcare corporations. Thursday is the 7th anniversary of President Obama’s signing of the Affordable Care Act. :roll:
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Unread post by k9nanny » Tue Mar 21, 2017 10:17 pm

If we had affordable care, we wouldn't need to subsidize insurance premiums, thereby subsidizing insurance companies, who love to deny payment.

Not that I want the republican assholes to take coverage away from anybody; without it, we're toast.
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Unread post by rstrong » Wed Mar 22, 2017 2:56 pm

Current Trump Tweet: "Big day for healthcare. Working hard!"

Uh huh. In the same sense that Dec 7th, 1941 was a big day for Pearl Harbor.

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Unread post by bannination » Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:09 pm

rstrong wrote:Current Trump Tweet: "Big day for healthcare. Working hard!"

Uh huh. In the same sense that Dec 7th, 1941 was a big day for Pearl Harbor.
Indeed.

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Unread post by bannination » Thu Mar 23, 2017 5:19 pm

Latest Trump Tweet:

We are taking action to #RepealANDReplace #Obamacare! Contact your Rep & tell them you support #AHCA. #PassTheBill…
Smell that desperation.

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Unread post by k9nanny » Fri Mar 24, 2017 3:58 pm

So 45 just pulled DonTcare.
It is sickening to know it couldn't pass, not because the majority were OK with AHA, but because the AHCA doesn't go far enough.

It's also amusing (y'all know what I mean) that the Toddler-in-Chief took his ball because they didn't want to play by his rules.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Sat Mar 25, 2017 12:37 pm

Commercials during March Madness mistakenly thank Republicans for repealing Obamacare

:lol: :clap:

Not only that but the American Action Network still has the ads up on their YT channel as I'm posting this, 21 hours after the vote was cancelled and 12.5 hours after the article was posted! Here are a couple, there are a bunch more:


In Charge: Young


In Charge: Congressman Hurd

That's how utterly incompetent the right is on healthcare.

Sourcewatch: American Action Network


UltraViolet members helped stop TrumpCare. Here’s how.

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All the talk is about the RWNJ Republicans, but it also took the Dems staying strong. If any bill is to pass the House, let alone overcome a Senate filibuster, there will have to be a compromise with the Dems.
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Unread post by Boatrocker » Mon Mar 27, 2017 1:57 pm

Donnie in the Room
Stumbled onto this. I like it. Humorous in nature, but dead on the money.
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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:28 pm

:D :thumbup:

... the band is playing somewhere, and somewhere hearts are light,
and somewhere men are laughing, and somewhere children shout;
but there is no joy in Trumpville — tiny hands Donnie has struck out.

Vrede too wrote:Commercials during March Madness mistakenly thank Republicans for repealing Obamacare

:lol: :clap:

Not only that but the American Action Network still has the ads up on their YT channel as I'm posting this, 21 hours after the vote was cancelled and 12.5 hours after the article was posted!

... That's how utterly incompetent the right is on healthcare.
3 days! :lol:
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Re: Trump Nocare

Unread post by Boatrocker » Mon Mar 27, 2017 2:48 pm

"... That's how utterly incompetent the right is on [insert issue here]."
Tweaked that a little.
"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron." — H. L. Mencken, July 26, 1920, in The Baltimore Evening Sun

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Unread post by rstrong » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:53 pm

In Dr. Strangelove, General Buck Turgidson makes the case for a nuclear first strike: "Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops."

Paul Ryan has the same attitude towards 24 million Americans losing their insurance coverage.

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Unread post by billy.pilgrim » Mon Mar 27, 2017 3:57 pm

rstrong wrote:In Dr. Strangelove, General Buck Turgidson makes the case for a nuclear first strike: "Mr. President, I’m not saying we wouldn’t get our hair mussed, but I do say no more than 10 to 20 million killed, tops."

Paul Ryan has the same attitude towards 24 million Americans losing their insurance coverage.
http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/ ... icaid.html


Ryan: So, the health care entitlements are the big, big, big drivers of our debt. There are three. Obamacare, Medicaid, and Medicare. Two out of three are going through Congress right now. So, Medicaid—sending it back to the states, capping its growth rate. We’ve been dreaming of this since you and I were drinking out of a keg.


and he has such a keen insight into insurance

“The idea of Obamacare is … that the people who are healthy pay for the people who are sick,” Ryan said. “It’s not working, and that’s why it’s in a death spiral.”
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Unread post by rstrong » Mon Mar 27, 2017 4:44 pm

billy.pilgrim wrote:“The idea of Obamacare is … that the people who are healthy pay for the people who are sick,” Ryan said. “It’s not working, and that’s why it’s in a death spiral.”
Two points to make to Mr. Ryan:

- In the ClintonCare battle when Republicans were denying that anyone would be turned away from the Emergency room because they couldn't afford it, other Republicans demanded to know "why the hell not." The personal mandate was the solution.

It was about personal responsibility; not forcing others to pay for your emergency room visit. It was mainstream Republican policy for 15 years until the moment Obama adopted it - at which point conmen like Ryan declared it unconstitutional commie Marxist socialism.

- The Congressional Budget Office points out that ObamaCare is NOT in a "death spiral."

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Unread post by Vrede too » Mon Mar 27, 2017 5:42 pm

Boatrocker wrote:
"... That's how utterly incompetent the right is on [insert issue here]."
Tweaked that a little.
I stand corrected. :oops:
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DonTcare

Unread post by Vrede too » Wed May 03, 2017 1:26 pm

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Unread post by Vrede too » Fri May 05, 2017 12:44 am

Trump praises Australian universal health care system at meeting with prime minister

President Donald Trump had kind words for the Australian health care system at a meeting with that country's prime minister Thursday, just hours after Republican members of Congress succeeded in passing their efforts to roll back the Affordable Care Act.

“We have a failing health care -- I shouldn't say this to our great gentleman and my friend from Australia because you have better health care than we do," said Trump.
:-0?> Even a broken clock . . .
The remarks were quickly seized upon by progressive critics of the president, including Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vermont, who have long advocated for a government-run universal health care option, similar to Australia's Medicare system.

"The president has just said it. That's great. Let's take a look at the Australian health care system, and let's move," said Sanders shortly afterward in an interview on MSNBC. "Maybe he wants to take a look at the Canadian health care system or systems throughout Europe. Thank you, Mr. President. Let us move to a Medicare-for-all system that does what every other major country does." ...
:thumbup:


Twitter has some thoughts about the Republican Obamacare replacement
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