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http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/20 ... obama.html

FTA:
37 percent of Democrats back Trump’s missile strikes. In 2013, 38 percent of Democrats supported Obama’s plan. That is well within the margin of error.

In 2013, when Barack Obama was president, a Washington Post–ABC News poll found that only 22 percent of Republicans supported the U.S. launching missile strikes against Syria in response to Bashar al-Assad using chemical weapons against civilians.

A new Post-ABC poll finds that 86 percent of Republicans support Donald Trump’s decision to launch strikes on Syria for the same reason. Only 11 percent are opposed.
Kinda makes you angry......

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I'm starting to think it's more of an inability to understand irony. Holding conflicting ideas can't be hypocrisy if the ideas are ... (at this point understanding them gets more than a little murky)
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It's hardly a surprise.

It started with the flag pin outrage in 2008. Obama didn't wear a flag pin one day, and the Republicans declared him to be anti-American. And yet there plenty of campaign pictures and videos of Republican candidates without flag pins floating around.

Or was it presidential eligibility? Obama met both popular definitions of "natural born citizen" - "born on US soil" and "a US citizen at the moment of birth." McCain met NEITHER definition. But we know which one they screamed about for eight years. They called Obama a "Kenyan" because his father was born in Kenya, but none ever called Mitt Romney - whose father was born in Mexico - a Mexican.

What we now know as ObamaCare and the personal mandate were mainstream Republican policy until Obama adopted them.

Republicans had a hissy fit over Obama bowing to a foreign leader - even though it was standard practice for Republican Presidents.

They faulted Obama for continuing Bush II policy in Iraq and Afghanistan - the same policies they were calling people traitors for criticizing a few months earlier. then they faulted him for pulling out of Iraq - even though the pull-out was done on a timeline agreement signed by Bush II.

They have a hissy fit when Obama decides to hold terrorist trials in America, ignoring the previous terrorist trials - in America - for the USS Cole bombers, African embassy bombers, one of the 9/11 terrorists, etc., etc. under the previous Republican watch.

They screamed when Obama tried to hold terrorist trials in America, ignoring the previous terrorist trials - in America - for the USS Cole bombers, African embassy bombers, one of the 9/11 terrorists, etc., etc. under the previous Republican watch.

For a while they faulted Obama for a huge cut in military spending, until people started asking, "On what planet is a 4% spending increase a huge cut?"

They faulted Obama for cutting F-22 production, even after people patiently explained to them in small words that it was the Bush II administration that .... didn't cut production, but refused to order more ... and that Obama kept this policy.

They declared that Obama wasn't protecting the U.S. against terrorist attacks - despite his track record being better than both previous Republican and Democratic administrations. Including a dozen Benghazi-like attacks under Bush II.

Every President (except Kennedy) in the last 70 years has had "czars". Franklin Roosevelt had 19 of them. Bush II had 33. Suddenly they were wrong under Obama.

Republicans had a hissy fit over Obama using a Canadian bus. Prevost bus shells are Canadian made, then outfitted by Hemphill Coach of Tennessee. Bush II used one in his last election campaign. In 2008 the same buses were used by John McCain, Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin. And by Republican candidates like Michele Bachmann in 2012. But Democrats? Not allowed.

Republicans in Congress declared Obama's military action in Libya to be unconstitutional, because it was done without Congress's authorization. President Bush I did the same, ordered troops into Panama in 1989 to overthrow General Manuel Noriega. As with Obama, President Bush consulted with Congressional leaders but did not seek or receive Congress' authorization. The legal issues were settled by the Office of Legal Counsel when the same thing was done with troops sent into Haiti and Bosnia in the 1990s.

The First Lady having a staff. Expected for Republicans, an abomination for Democrats.

Executive Orders were proof that Obama was a dictator. But you had to ignore the fact that he issued less of them than any President in the last century. But they're back to being peachy-keen in the new Republican White House.

Obama's handling of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine has been a mirror image of Bush II's handling of the Russian invasion of Georgia. But you wouldn't know it from Republicans.

It's an endless list.

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rstrong wrote:
Sun Sep 10, 2017 6:51 pm
It's hardly a surprise.

It started with the flag pin outrage in 2008. Obama didn't wear a flag pin one day, and the Republicans declared him to be anti-American. And yet there plenty of campaign pictures and videos of Republican candidates without flag pins floating around.

Or was it presidential eligibility? Obama met both popular definitions of "natural born citizen" - "born on US soil" and "a US citizen at the moment of birth." McCain met NEITHER definition. But we know which one they screamed about for eight years. They called Obama a "Kenyan" because his father was born in Kenya, but none ever called Mitt Romney - whose father was born in Mexico - a Mexican.

What we now know as ObamaCare and the personal mandate were mainstream Republican policy until Obama adopted them.

Republicans had a hissy fit over Obama bowing to a foreign leader - even though it was standard practice for Republican Presidents.

They faulted Obama for continuing Bush II policy in Iraq and Afghanistan - the same policies they were calling people traitors for criticizing a few months earlier. then they faulted him for pulling out of Iraq - even though the pull-out was done on a timeline agreement signed by Bush II.

They have a hissy fit when Obama decides to hold terrorist trials in America, ignoring the previous terrorist trials - in America - for the USS Cole bombers, African embassy bombers, one of the 9/11 terrorists, etc., etc. under the previous Republican watch.

They screamed when Obama tried to hold terrorist trials in America, ignoring the previous terrorist trials - in America - for the USS Cole bombers, African embassy bombers, one of the 9/11 terrorists, etc., etc. under the previous Republican watch.

For a while they faulted Obama for a huge cut in military spending, until people started asking, "On what planet is a 4% spending increase a huge cut?"

They faulted Obama for cutting F-22 production, even after people patiently explained to them in small words that it was the Bush II administration that .... didn't cut production, but refused to order more ... and that Obama kept this policy.

They declared that Obama wasn't protecting the U.S. against terrorist attacks - despite his track record being better than both previous Republican and Democratic administrations. Including a dozen Benghazi-like attacks under Bush II.

Every President (except Kennedy) in the last 70 years has had "czars". Franklin Roosevelt had 19 of them. Bush II had 33. Suddenly they were wrong under Obama.

Republicans had a hissy fit over Obama using a Canadian bus. Prevost bus shells are Canadian made, then outfitted by Hemphill Coach of Tennessee. Bush II used one in his last election campaign. In 2008 the same buses were used by John McCain, Fred Thompson, Rudy Giuliani and Sarah Palin. And by Republican candidates like Michele Bachmann in 2012. But Democrats? Not allowed.

Republicans in Congress declared Obama's military action in Libya to be unconstitutional, because it was done without Congress's authorization. President Bush I did the same, ordered troops into Panama in 1989 to overthrow General Manuel Noriega. As with Obama, President Bush consulted with Congressional leaders but did not seek or receive Congress' authorization. The legal issues were settled by the Office of Legal Counsel when the same thing was done with troops sent into Haiti and Bosnia in the 1990s.

The First Lady having a staff. Expected for Republicans, an abomination for Democrats.

Executive Orders were proof that Obama was a dictator. But you had to ignore the fact that he issued less of them than any President in the last century. But they're back to being peachy-keen in the new Republican White House.

Obama's handling of the Russian invasion of the Ukraine has been a mirror image of Bush II's handling of the Russian invasion of Georgia. But you wouldn't know it from Republicans.

It's an endless list.
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Obama: Good husband, good father.
Trump: Divorced several times. Infidelity. A bunch of kids born to different mothers.

But Trump aligns closer to their moral values.
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Obama was supposedly incompetant, corrupt, un-American, and actively working to destroy the country.

Trump - A slew of white house staff have already been booted or resigned. A bunch are being investigated by Mueller's team. Trump always appears to be kissing Russia's ass.

But Trump is the patriot. The real american.
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Obama admin. criminal indictments-0

Previous administrations-Hah!
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 12:14 am
Obama admin. criminal indictments-0

Previous administrations-Hah!
Obama admin. impeachment/resignation/25th Amendment - 0

Subsequent administration - Hah!
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But, but, but he's a negro and no negro is supposed to be in OUR White House unless they be answering the door, or in the kitchen.
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How many of these asshats will have their hands out for Irma money?


67 members of the House of Representatives voted "no" to assisting people who were left, at best, powerless or homeless by a hurricane in November (Sandy). All 67 are Republicans:

Justin Amash (R-MI)
Andy Barr (R-KY)
Dan Benishek (R-MI)
Kerry Bentivolio (R-MI)
Marsha Blackburn (R-TN)
Jim Bridenstine (R-OK)
Mo Brooks (R-AL)
Paul Broun (R-GA)
Steve Chabot (R-OH)
Doug Collins (R-GA)
Mike Conaway (R-TX)
Tom Cotton (R-AR)
Steve Daines (R-MT)
Ron DeSantis (R-FL)
Scott DesJarlais (R-TN)
Sean Duffy (R-WI)
Jeff Duncan (R-SC)
Jimmy Duncan (R-TN)
Stephen Fincher (R-TN)
John Fleming (R-LA)
Bill Flores (R-TX)
Virginia Foxx (R-NC)
Trent Franks (R-AZ)
Louie Gohmert (R-TX)
Bob Goodlatte (R-VA)
Paul Gosar (R-AZ)
Trey Gowdy (R-SC)
Tom Graves (R-GA)
Sam Graves (R-MO)
Andrew Harris (R-MD)
George Holding (R-NC)
Richard Hudson (R-NC)
Tim Huelskamp (R-KS)
Randy Hultgren (R-IL)
Lynn Jenkins (R-KS)
Jim Jordan (R-OH)
Doug Lamborn (R-CO)
Kenny Marchant (R-TX)
Thomas Massie (R-KY)
Tom McClintock (R-CA)
Mark Meadows (R-NC)
Markwayne Mullin (R-OK)
Mick Mulvaney (R-SC)
Randy Neugebauer (R-TX)
Steven Palazzo (R-MS)
Steve Pearce (R-NM)
Scott Perry (R-PA)
Tom Petri (R-WI)
Mike Pompeo (R-KS)
Tom Price (R-GA)
Phil Roe (R-TN)
Todd Rokita (R-IN)
Keith Rothfus (R-PA)
Ed Royce (R-CA)
Paul Ryan (R-WI)
Matt Salmon (R-AZ)
David Schweikert (R-AZ)
Jim Sensenbrenner (R-WI)
Marlin Stutzman (R-IN)
Mac Thornberry (R-TX)
Randy Weber (R-TX)
Brad Wenstrup (R-OH)
Roger Williams (R-TX)
Joe Wilson (R-SC)
Rob Woodall (R-GA)
Kevin Yoder (R-KS)
Ted Yoho (R-FL)
The most high-profile Congressman on the list is Paul Ryan, failed vice presidential nominee. It also includes Mo Brooks, Ted Yoho, Ron DeSantis, Steven Palazzo and John Fleming from Alabama, Florida, Louisiana and Mississippi, all of which are states that received much-needed federal aid following Hurricane Katrina
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 7:51 am
... Jeff Duncan (R-SC)
Virginia Foxx (R-NC)
Trey Gowdy (R-SC)
George Holding (R-NC)
Richard Hudson (R-NC)
Mark Meadows (R-NC) - Mine :roll:
Mick Mulvaney (R-SC)
Joe Wilson (R-SC)
All of which are from states that received much-needed federal aid following Hurricane Matthew.
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Wingnuts don't grasp hypocrisy any better than they grasp irony or satire. To them, it's perfectly rational (for lack of a better word) to file stupid shit as listed above under "Well, That's Different." And they fail to grasp that there's a built-in logical fallacy in that. This is the essence of every goddam trip I make down to Coffee County, Alabama. Every goddam one. They look at me like I'm the dimwit.
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Ted Cruz accidentally liked a porno vid on Twitter.
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Boatrocker wrote:
Mon Sep 11, 2017 10:56 am
Wingnuts don't grasp hypocrisy any better than they grasp irony or satire. To them, it's perfectly rational (for lack of a better word) to file stupid shit as listed above under "Well, That's Different." And they fail to grasp that there's a built-in logical fallacy in that. This is the essence of every goddam trip I make down to Coffee County, Alabama. Every goddam one. They look at me like I'm the dimwit.
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JTA wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:46 pm
Ted Cruz accidentally liked a porno vid on Twitter.
lying ted is blaming a staffer
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 2:19 pm
JTA wrote:
Tue Sep 12, 2017 1:46 pm
Ted Cruz accidentally liked a porno vid on Twitter.
lying ted is blaming a staffer
Now that it's confirmed Ted Cruz beats off to incest porn, we know he's not a RINO because that's something only a true conservative with all those repressed sexual urges would do.
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The only way he could prove he's even less of a RINO is to get caught with his boyfriend, have an affair, or father an illegitimate child.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/ted ... cc65cc1be4
... The incident caused “Sexuall Posts” to add ”@TedCruz’s Favorite Porn Account” to its bio, and the senator’s name to trend on Twitter. Some of the reaction:
Sexuall Posts
😈‏ @SexuallPosts

Thanks for watching ted!
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To be fair, I've inadvertently <ahem> 'hit a button' a time or two.
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Sounds like he'll have better material for his next fake filibuster.

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