There are, indeed.
There are cops who pull people over for driving while Mexican (or Black), too, but traffic patrol is still a worthwhile operation.
Seems to me we're possibly blaming ISAAC for doing its job while the real blame for the repression/suppression/icing/intimidation belongs considerably further up the food chain.
As the article says, this was one accidentally leaked report, not the result of any governmental transparency. We don't know what else there is to the story or how the report has been updated since 2017. LEO-industry repression and smears have often appeared in the form of or included the type of unjustified investigations as the ISAAC report.
Remember, the whole starting premise here is that some protesters on some issue have been violent sometime in the past somewhere, not any actual and current and local threat. I'd say that it's a certainty that more members of pipeline construction crews have been violent sometime in the past somewhere - domestic abuse, bar fights, beating up protesters, white supremacy, intentional pollution, whatever - than have pipeline opponents. Where's their threat assessment? So, the tree hugger 'threat assessment' is intentionally biased and provocative from the start.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.
All that may well be true, but I still wouldn't want to be the city or state agency guy to have to be cross-examined in court after a bunch of people got shot or blown up and explain why I did nothing to prepare for a fairly predictably controversial event. "No, we didn't try to find anything about the group. They said they'd be peaceful, so we just trusted them. And they didn't tell us any counter-protesters were going to show up, so how would we know?..."
We had zero indication that this group would be violent, and historically groups like it have not been violent. We respect their right to protest peacefully without prior government intimidation.
Of course, it's not the protesters' responsibility to predict counter-protesters or what they might do. It was our error to not do a threat assessment on the counter-protesters who are known for violence.
Shooters and bombers have attacked churches many times, and attendance at services regularly outnumbers protests. Is anyone blaming government for not doing threat assessments on all church events?
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.
Good answer, except the church part.
People have shot up/blown up churches, schools, etc. sure, but those meetings are not inherently confrontational. An organized protest/demonstration often has as its purpose confrontation and conflict, peaceable or no.
Reading the article that was published in the Shelby newspaper, it would appear that the backwoods area he lived in really had been encroached on in recent years by meth makers, etc. Probably the same story as the film "Gran Torino", except this guy isn't Clint Eastwood and may himself be one of the less sharp knives in the drawer.
Isn't that the same scam the cops run as a "sting"?
I think there was even a TV show a few years ago where they did just that.
Dateline, I think.
Not exactly the same. In the cop/TV show sting the men think they're hooking up with underage girls, which is illegal. In this scam the convicts were posing as adult women and the soldiers thought it was all legal, THEN "daddy" claims that the nonexistent girls are underage.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.
It's like the old pimp/hooker scheme where the hooker picks up a guy in a bar, takes him back to the room and when he's naked her "boyfriend/husband/father" comes tearing into the room, steals all his money/IDs/cards and threatens him with public exposure if he reports it. Possibly some of those in the prison scam had run that in person back in the day. Lots more profitable online, though.
“I’ve never had a supercharging experience like this one. These trucks blocked all the chargers, chanted “F” Tesla, and were kicked out by a Sheetz employee.”
'Leilani Münter, a racecar driver, environmental activist, and Tesla owner, also lives in North Carolina and reported truck drivers coal rolling.
This is scary. I’ve been coal-rolled in my Tesla by several trucks in NC, the drivers were hostile."
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”
“I’ve never had a supercharging experience like this one. These trucks blocked all the chargers, chanted “F” Tesla, and were kicked out by a Sheetz employee.”
'Leilani Münter, a racecar driver, environmental activist, and Tesla owner, also lives in North Carolina and reported truck drivers coal rolling.
This is scary. I’ve been coal-rolled in my Tesla by several trucks in NC, the drivers were hostile."
Too bad none of them had the balls to stick around, take credit and explain what their action was about. I guess that's why they have the compensatory BFTs.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.
