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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:34 pm
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Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:55 am
Not that it's not a worthwhile occupation, but "industrial psychologist" is to real psychologists like acupuncturists are to real doctors.
I wouldn't know, I had to look it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industria ... psychology
Sounds legit, but you probably know more about it in reality. Even it is questionable for her, see below.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:07 pm
https://www.williamwoods.edu/

I don't see that they offer anything other than undergraduate degrees in psychology.

Reckon that why she calls herself "Dr. Gina".

And true, not one word that she's ever done anything in the field of psychology, other than talk radio, teapeople events, and hanging out at maralago.
You're correct, no real psychology after school, if even then.

The bios are weird. One says, "while pursuing her bachelors degree at William Woods University", and they both refer to, "master’s degree, from St. Louis University". It's not clearly stated where she supposedly got her Ph.D.
Doesn't have one?
Unaccredited school?
Online diploma mill?
Offshore diploma mill?
Usually, you can't shut people up about where they got their doctorate from.

Hah, I googled after typing the above. This 2010 article, while tearing her apart on multiple issues, says:
"The PhD that "Dr. Gina Loudon" so proudly presents on her website is a "Ph.D. in human behavior" from an online university in California. Gina Loudon calls herself a 'politicologist.'"

I also found, 2015:

Wow, it sure is easy to become a “psychology expert” on Fox News

This 2014 one is funny:

The Encyclopedia of American loons - #895: Gina Loudon
I have witnessed the past 40 years and there are so many examples of idiot experts all over the right pushing total crap, so I shouldn't have been surprised, but I was. After following just a few links, I found this

https://mobile.wnd.com/2014/04/is-obama-a-psychopath/


"IS OBAMA A PSYCHOPATH?"


"The terms psychopath and sociopath are often used interchangeably, even by mental health professionals. The symptoms are somewhat consistent between the two: lack of conscience, no moral compass, manipulative, low range of emotions, interpersonally insensitive. The psychopath is deadly. He is well spoken, charismatic, fearless, controlling, socially potent, a habitual liar, calm to a disturbing degree in the face of chaos and cold hearted. He is a master at blaming others."


"As Mr. Freeman points out in his article, psychopaths make a great first impression. He points to other characteristics, too. He points to the initial popularity of Pol Pot, Hitler, Ceausescu and others, but the golden boy image quickly fades to one of a ruthless, inhumane manipulator with very dark intentions."



"interesting to consider some characteristics when combined with actions of President Obama since he took office. He certainly had the initial charisma and likability. He had the perfect-looking family with the perfect-looking face at the perfect time for America to fall for him. No matter what his opponents pointed to, no one questioned him for fear of being labeled racists.

Psychopaths often act audaciously, without regard for those affected. They get away with actions that others in their positions haven’t, because of their ability to remain calm even when committing atrocities, and their ability to manipulate whole groups of people."

"He has taken his entire family and spent tens of millions of dollars in exotic, luxe locations like Hawaii, Vail, Europe and Africa. His predecessors made Americans increasingly familiar with places like Camp David and Martha’s Vineyard or their own vacation homes such as the Bushes’ Kennebunkport, the Kennedys’ Cape Cod, the Reagans’ Rancho Del Cielo in California or George W’s exotic locale, Crawford, Texas. Other presidents were exceptionally sensitive to the state of the American people, foregoing vacations when the American people were mourning or hurting economically – not the Obamas. When the economy was at its worst, gas prices were at record highs, and Americans were going without vacations and other needs, Obama extended his wife and daughters’ vacation in Spain.

But luxe vacations are just the beginning. Obama has golfed more than any other president. On days when America has been under attack, on days when military heroes have died, on days when the nation is mourning – still Obama finds time for a game of hoops with a hip-hop star or a round of golf with a key contributor. His advisers had to pull him off the golf course to talk him into taking out Osama bin Laden"


And then she started really getting weirdvand even a questionnaire at the end.

Yeppers, I'm convinced, obama is a psychopath, no doubt about it.
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 12:34 pm
O Really wrote:
Thu Sep 06, 2018 11:55 am
Not that it's not a worthwhile occupation, but "industrial psychologist" is to real psychologists like acupuncturists are to real doctors.
I wouldn't know, I had to look it up.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Industria ... psychology
Sounds legit, but you probably know more about it in reality. Even it is questionable for her, see below.

Oh, it's legit as an occupation. Pretty much a human resources person with a title. The clinical, abnormal, and experimental people sorta look down on them, though. Especially if they don't have a doctorate from a name school, and they'd probably have to eat lunch by themselves at a psychologist convention.


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They're probably will be young women who will die, not to mention what an unchecked Queeg, who will then feel emboldened has the potential to do.

Yeah, it really is scary.
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They're probably will be young women who will die, not to mention what an unchecked Queeg, who will then feel emboldened has the potential to do.
Queeg? What's a fictitious computer got to do with Kavanaugh?

Why is it when there's always a nomination coming up for a GOP spot, the first thing a Dem does is upset the snowflake's fragile cart by whining
'Roe v. Wade'? Kavanaugh has already said that law is set and settled.


Yeah, it really is scary.
Living in the U.S. with all the politically-charged nutjobs is what's scary!

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Leo Lyons wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:17 pm
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They're probably will be young women who will die, not to mention what an unchecked Queeg, who will then feel emboldened has the potential to do.
Queeg? What's a fictitious computer got to do with Kavanaugh?

Why is it when there's always a nomination coming up for a GOP spot, the first thing a Dem does is upset the snowflake's fragile cart by whining
'Roe v. Wade'? Kavanaugh has already said that law is set and settled.


Yeah, it really is scary.
Living in the U.S. with all the politically-charged nutjobs is what's scary!
It appears that he lied about roe v Wade

Because it should take 60 votes for approval and he could never get there

Because the republicans were so upset by Obama even getting a nomination that they refused to follow the procedure

Because he is another of these who blame the poor and side with the corporations and the rich.

Because he believes in birthrights rather than human rights.
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Leo Lyons wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:17 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:07 pm
They're probably will be young women who will die, not to mention what an unchecked Queeg, who will then feel emboldened has the potential to do.
Queeg? What's a fictitious computer got to do with Kavanaugh?

Don't know if that's supposed to be humor or just ignorance.

Why is it when there's always a nomination coming up for a GOP spot, the first thing a Dem does is upset the snowflake's fragile cart by whining
'Roe v. Wade'? Kavanaugh has already said that law is set and settled.


Absolute bullshit. He said that in hearing, in 2003 he wrote it can be overturned. Queeg ran in overturning Roe, do you really think he'd nominate someone who wouldn't complete his campaign promise? No one with half a brain believes that (kinda says a lot about you).


https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa- ... SKCN1LM24T

Not to mention his overturned ruling.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics ... e0aef4d8ab

Yeah, it really is scary.
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Judge Brett Kavanaugh, President Trump’s nominee for the Supreme Court, is an exceptional danger to our environment and our public health. As a federal judge for the last 12 years, Kavanaugh’s legal record shows that he’s antagonistic to common-sense safeguards against big polluters.

If Kavanaugh is confirmed by the Senate, then the Supreme Court — our environment’s last line of defense — will likely be unable to stop an all-out assault on our environmental and health protections, and the federal agencies that create and enforce them, for generations to come.

That’s why NRDC is working to defeat his nomination — and we need your help. Send a message to your senators today, and tell them to oppose Judge Kavanaugh’s confirmation to the Supreme Court!
Dear Senator:

As your constituent, I urge you to oppose Judge Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation to the Supreme Court.

Judge Kavanaugh's record in 12 years on the federal bench shows a clear and consistent bias in favor of corporate polluters at the expense of American families and communities.

Kavanaugh has:
- Questioned the rights of citizens and citizens' groups to file lawsuits, including those challenging severe environmental hazards like toxic chemicals or air and water pollution
- Ruled against EPA efforts to protect clean air, reduce greenhouse gas emissions, and curb mercury and other pollutants from power plants
- Opposed a rule requiring makers of air conditioners, refrigerators, and aerosols to phase out climate-polluting HFCs

Any Supreme Court nominee who consistently puts polluters before the American people is not fit for public office, let alone a lifetime appointment to one of the highest posts in the federal government. Your action now will define our future for generations to come. Please, vote no on Judge Kavanaugh's confirmation. Thank you.
A lot of us and a lot of wildlife likely will die. People who adore polluters, fat cats, AGW, corporate domination and pollution, and the spontaneous abortions caused by it, won't mind.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:51 pm
Leo Lyons wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:17 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Sep 07, 2018 1:07 pm
They're probably will be young women who will die, not to mention what an unchecked Queeg, who will then feel emboldened has the potential to do.
Queeg? What's a fictitious computer got to do with Kavanaugh?
Don't know if that's supposed to be humor or just ignorance.
Ignorance. On your part.

"Queeg" is the fifth episode of science fiction sitcom Red Dwarf series two and the eleventh in the series run. It premiered on the British television channel BBC2 on 4 October 1988. Written by Rob Grant and Doug Naylor, and directed by Ed Bye, the plot features a backup computer named Queeg that replaces Holly.


Why is it when there's always a nomination coming up for a GOP spot, the first thing a Dem does is upset the snowflake's fragile cart by whining 'Roe v. Wade'? Kavanaugh has already said that law is set and settled.


Absolute bullshit. He said that in hearing, in 2003 he wrote it can be overturned. Queeg ran in overturning Roe, do you really think he'd nominate someone who wouldn't complete his campaign promise? No one with half a brain believes that (kinda says a lot about you).

No it isn't, and you know it. Every effing election, the first squeal out of the Dems mouths is "Roe v. Wade". Practically every GOP candidate is asked about "Roe v. Wade" . You're right though, it's absolute, knee-jerk bullshit heard every election.

He wrote "it can be overturned." Of course it can, but what the liberal dumfuzzles can't seem to get into their thick skulls is that there are 8 more justices on the SCOTUS bench; Kavanaugh can not single-handedly overturn any law or ruling.


Yeah, it really is scary.
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Vrede too wrote:
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A lot of us and a lot of wildlife likely will die. People who adore polluters, fat cats, AGW, corporate domination and pollution, and the spontaneous abortions caused by it, won't mind.
Brett Kavanaugh’s Record Sets A Dangerous Precedent On Endangered Species
In his 12 years on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, he’s ruled against species protections 95 percent of the time.
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Here in Maine, with Susan Collins at least theoretically a possible "no" the ads are intense. There have been some good articles that conclude that it would be "political suicide" for her to vote for Kavenaugh. Here whole personal legacy has included working for better healthcare and support for pro-choice. Further, she submitted to hornswaggling on the ACA vote earlier, claiming to have "negotiated" for several healthcare votes and having gotten exactly zip. There have also been ads run by some right-wing bunch trying to paint Kavenaugh as a really nice guy who "the more you know him the better you like him." But clearly, if she votes to confirm Kavenaugh, she's totally sold out and for no apparent good reason.

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O Really wrote:
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Here in Maine, with Susan Collins at least theoretically a possible "no" the ads are intense. There have been some good articles that conclude that it would be "political suicide" for her to vote for Kavenaugh. Here whole personal legacy has included working for better healthcare and support for pro-choice. Further, she submitted to hornswaggling on the ACA vote earlier, claiming to have "negotiated" for several healthcare votes and having gotten exactly zip. There have also been ads run by some right-wing bunch trying to paint Kavenaugh as a really nice guy who "the more you know him the better you like him." But clearly, if she votes to confirm Kavenaugh, she's totally sold out and for no apparent good reason.
She's 65 and not up for reelection until 2020. Plenty of time to rehab her moderate image if she thinks she needs to and if she even wants another term. :(
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Maybe not so much... here's the best of the articles
https://www.yahoo.com/news/susan-collin ... 55031.html

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An interesting note: What with the Kavanaugh bashing on social media, news media, forums media, etc., I've yet to see any names pop up that the liberal camp would like to see seated on the SCOTUS bench. Could it be they have no one any better? If Kavanaugh is confirmed, you think the whiners, looters, and malcontents will take to the streets like they did after the elections? Right now, the word is the Dems have not a chance in hell of disrupting his confirmation.

I don't give a damn who they put in, just get the effing crap over with; I'm weary of seeing grown people acting like entitled assholes.
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Hate in the White House — August

Anti-Immigrant - 8
Anti-Black - 5
White Nationalist - 4
Radical Right - 1
Anti-LGBT - 1
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For somebody who thinks society will crumble at the sight of a 15-year old shoulder, you seem to keep yourself oblivious to real issues. As to Democratic preferences, have you forgotten Merrick Garland, who by all legitimate rules, precedence, and tradition should have been confirmed?

As to Kavenaugh, it is certainly true that nobody on Trump's list is going to be great, but Kavenaugh is worse than most. Not on speculation, but on the basis of a long record of his decisions, writings, and statements. And in particular because he appears to be in Trump's pocket on issues like protection of Trump.

And it is a fact that Dems have no chance of defeating the nomination because there aren't enough of them. But it would only take a couple of Republicans with either a backbone or nothing to lose to bork him.

And in any case, part of the Democratic posturing is for the future elections, win or lose on Kavenaugh specifically.

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I had forgotten about him; but I don't recall his name re-surfacing since his first nomination expiration.

This is what's a real pisser: The SCOTUS is supposed to be the final stopping point in litigation cases, the judging of our most trying situations, and so on. As it is, the justices are nothing more than political pawns of the current sitting administration; if the POTUS is a Dem, the Repubs will dig up every piece of crap imaginable on the nominee. If the POTUS is Repub, the Dems will dig up every piece of crap imaginable on the nominee; bottom line the nominee is an unfit piece of garbage according to the viewpoints of each opposing political faction.

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If you look back from a few decades, you'll find that most non-extreme supreme court nominees pass through without much issue. In fact, most Presidents, if the opposing party controls the Senate, have made an effort to pick someone they can get confirmed. Thus Obama nominated Garland, who had already been raved over by Republicans. But sometimes a President will nominate someone with extreme views or somebody who really does have some closet skeletons. Those usually run into opposition and sometimes get borked. But it is a true desecration of the Supreme Court to turn it into a simple partisan issue. It's one thing to look for someone with a liberal or conservative view of the law - it's quite another to look for someone who will just support whatever the party wants, as is being attempted by the NC Republicans and by Trump. Opposing those appointments is the duty of anyone who cares about a society of laws or the law itself.

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Even more obscene is for a POTUS potentially in severe legal trouble to nominate a judge who thinks that POTUSes are above the law, and for the GOP to be okay with this.
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