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Tell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell:

"Take an immediate clear stand against Roy Moore. Publicly commit that you will not seat him in the Senate Republican caucus if he is elected."
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:34 am
"...clear stand..."
Yeah, like that's going to happen in three lifetimes. :roll:
I can dream. That said, Mitch McConnell has already been stronger faster against Moore than I would have predicted, which may have as much to do with Bannon as it does Moore. It's not impossible to imagine him going further.
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Vrede too wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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Tell Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell:

"Take an immediate clear stand against Roy Moore. Publicly commit that you will not seat him in the Senate Republican caucus if he is elected."
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 8:34 am
"...clear stand..."
Yeah, like that's going to happen in three lifetimes. :roll:
I can dream. That said, Mitch McConnell has already been stronger faster against Moore than I would have predicted, which may have as much to do with Bannon as it does Moore. It's not impossible to imagine him going further.
You can bet mitch is only concerned in getting moore replaced by bigger gun toting big Luther. If he can't get the election postponed there will be a write in for big Luther.

Our TV comes out of mobile. I saw all of his Luther's commercials. All showed him shooting a gun and proclaiming to support all matters trump, especially ending Obamacare.
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Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:28 am
You can bet mitch is only concerned in getting moore replaced by bigger gun toting big Luther. If he can't get the election postponed there will be a write in for big Luther.

Our TV comes out of mobile. I saw all of his Luther's commercials. All showed him shooting a gun and proclaiming to support all matters trump, especially ending Obamacare.
If Moore dropped out, do you think that Strange could win a write-in? All the Moore votes that have already been cast would be negated, Dem Doug Jones is only 2 points behind, write-in mobilization is difficult in any race . . .

. . . and a lot of GOP Alabamans can't spell 'Strange'. :P
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:45 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:28 am
You can bet mitch is only concerned in getting moore replaced by bigger gun toting big Luther. If he can't get the election postponed there will be a write in for big Luther.

Our TV comes out of mobile. I saw all of his Luther's commercials. All showed him shooting a gun and proclaiming to support all matters trump, especially ending Obamacare.
If Moore dropped out, do you think that Strange could win a write-in? All the Moore votes that have already been cast would be negated, Dem Doug Jones is only 2 points behind, write-in mobilization is difficult in any race . . .

. . . and a lot of GOP Alabamans can't spell 'Strange'. :P
Man. Can you imagine if Alabama elects a Democratic senator. WTF.

Prediction: If the Democrat wins due to some people writing in Strange, Alabamans will consider him to be an illegitimate senator due to only winning a plurality of the vote. Or something. I bet this is what they'll run with in the media and the conservative news ecosystem anyway.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:28 am
You can bet mitch is only concerned in getting moore replaced by bigger gun toting big Luther. If he can't get the election postponed there will be a write in for big Luther.

Our TV comes out of mobile. I saw all of his Luther's commercials. All showed him shooting a gun and proclaiming to support all matters trump, especially ending Obamacare.
If Moore dropped out, do you think that Strange could win a write-in? All the Moore votes that have already been cast would be negated, Dem Doug Jones is only 2 points behind, write-in mobilization is difficult in any race . . .

. . . and a lot of GOP Alabamans can't spell 'Strange'. :P
Strange is their middle name an esy too spel.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:45 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 10:28 am
You can bet mitch is only concerned in getting moore replaced by bigger gun toting big Luther. If he can't get the election postponed there will be a write in for big Luther.

Our TV comes out of mobile. I saw all of his Luther's commercials. All showed him shooting a gun and proclaiming to support all matters trump, especially ending Obamacare.
If Moore dropped out, do you think that Strange could win a write-in? All the Moore votes that have already been cast would be negated, Dem Doug Jones is only 2 points behind, write-in mobilization is difficult in any race . . .

. . . and a lot of GOP Alabamans can't spell 'Strange'. :P
Man. Can you imagine if Alabama elects a Democratic senator. WTF.

Prediction: If the Democrat wins due to some people writing in Strange, Alabamans will consider him to be an illegitimate senator due to only winning a plurality of the vote. Or something. I bet this is what they'll run with in the media and the conservative news ecosystem anyway.

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Man. Can you imagine if Alabama elects a Democratic senator. WTF....
Not just any Dem.
Doug Jones

... He served as a United States Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama appointed by President Bill Clinton, and rose to prominence for prosecuting the remaining two Ku Klux Klan perpetrators of the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing which killed four African-American girls, along with securing an indictment against the (rightwing Christian, anti-abortion) Olympic Park Bomber....

Jones left office in 2001 and returned to private practice. In 2004, he was court-appointed General Special Master in an environmental clean-up case involving Monsanto in Anniston, Alabama. In 2007 Jones was honored with the 15th Anniversary Civil Rights Distinguished Service Award from the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute. Also in 2007, Jones testified before the United States House Committee on the Judiciary about the importance of re-examining crimes of the Civil Rights Era.

... Jones supports increasing job training for workers and better education, along with an increase in the minimum wage for people in poverty. Jones also opposes allowing insurance companies to deny coverage for preexisting conditions and supports expanding Medicaid coverage, citing the problems with rural Alabama hospitals. He has also been called an economic populist by Newsweek. He has also come out in support of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. On health care, Jones opposes the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, but has called for changes to the U.S. health-care system, which he calls broken. He supports the re-authorization of the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP),[30] and has repeatedly criticized his opponent Moore for his lack of a clear stance on the program. Jones says he is open to the idea of a public option.

Jones supports stronger protection of civil rights. He has cited the Charlottesville rally and the Charleston church massacre as examples of racial issues to be addressed. Jones also supports the reversal of mandatory three-strikes laws for non-violent offenses to give judges flexibility in giving sentences. In an interview with The Birmingham News he stated that he opposes additional restrictions on abortion (such as proposals to ban abortion after the 20th week of gestation), saying current laws on the issue are sufficient.

Jones has condemned corruption in Alabama in the wake of high-profile scandals saying, "the people of Alabama have been embarrassed by corruption and a string of ethics investigations and convictions of people they placed into positions of power and trust. They deserve better. We all deserve better.

Jones supports investment into renewable energy research and further wildlife conservation. He also supports the Paris Climate Agreement and opposes the United States withdrawing from the agreement, and says a withdraw would have significant negative effects on the environment.
About the only thing that he isn't a nightmare for the KKK GOP on is:
Jones is running on a platform of strengthening American national defense. In an interview with The Birmingham News, Jones stated that he was in favor of increasing defense spending, saying it would boost Alabama's local economy, particularly in the areas around NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and the U.S. Army's Redstone Arsenal, and would protect America from foreign threats....
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 3:41 pm
JTA wrote:
Mon Nov 13, 2017 2:53 pm
Man. Can you imagine if Alabama elects a Democratic senator. WTF....
Not just any Dem.
Doug Jones

... He served as a United States Attorney for the Northern District of Alabama appointed by President Bill Clinton, and rose to prominence for prosecuting the remaining two Ku Klux Klan perpetrators of the 16th Street Baptist Church bombing which killed four African-American girls, along with securing an indictment against the (rightwing Christian, anti-abortion) Olympic Park Bomber....

Jones left office in 2001 and returned to private practice. In 2004, he was court-appointed General Special Master in an environmental clean-up case involving Monsanto in Anniston, Alabama. In 2007 Jones was honored with the 15th Anniversary Civil Rights Distinguished Service Award from the Birmingham Civil Rights Institute. Also in 2007, Jones testified before the United States House Committee on the Judiciary about the importance of re-examining crimes of the Civil Rights Era.

... Jones supports increasing job training for workers and better education, along with an increase in the minimum wage for people in poverty. Jones also opposes allowing insurance companies to deny coverage for preexisting conditions and supports expanding Medicaid coverage, citing the problems with rural Alabama hospitals. He has also been called an economic populist by Newsweek. He has also come out in support of the Lilly Ledbetter Fair Pay Act. On health care, Jones opposes the repeal of the Affordable Care Act, but has called for changes to the U.S. health-care system, which he calls broken. He supports the re-authorization of the Children's Health Insurance Program (CHIP),[30] and has repeatedly criticized his opponent Moore for his lack of a clear stance on the program. Jones says he is open to the idea of a public option.

Jones supports stronger protection of civil rights. He has cited the Charlottesville rally and the Charleston church massacre as examples of racial issues to be addressed. Jones also supports the reversal of mandatory three-strikes laws for non-violent offenses to give judges flexibility in giving sentences. In an interview with The Birmingham News he stated that he opposes additional restrictions on abortion (such as proposals to ban abortion after the 20th week of gestation), saying current laws on the issue are sufficient.

Jones has condemned corruption in Alabama in the wake of high-profile scandals saying, "the people of Alabama have been embarrassed by corruption and a string of ethics investigations and convictions of people they placed into positions of power and trust. They deserve better. We all deserve better.

Jones supports investment into renewable energy research and further wildlife conservation. He also supports the Paris Climate Agreement and opposes the United States withdrawing from the agreement, and says a withdraw would have significant negative effects on the environment.
About the only thing that he isn't a nightmare for the KKK GOP on is:
Jones is running on a platform of strengthening American national defense. In an interview with The Birmingham News, Jones stated that he was in favor of increasing defense spending, saying it would boost Alabama's local economy, particularly in the areas around NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center and the U.S. Army's Redstone Arsenal, and would protect America from foreign threats....
Doug Jones is not "cartoonish" enough. You have to be a caricature to win votes in GOP country, apparently.
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Election Betting Odds
Alabama Senate 2017


Jones 46.0%
+9.6% in last day

Moore 36.5%
-21.1% in last day

Strange 10.5%
+6.1% in last day

Brooks 3.5%
+2.0% in last day

Other 3.5%
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Doug Jones is not "cartoonish" enough. You have to be a caricature to win votes in GOP country, apparently.
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Roy Moore would visit the mall to pick up teenaged girls, so much so he was banned: https://www.thedailybeast.com/report-al ... uing-teens

Your move, Alabama and GOP.
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I love that all those dumbasses were so quick to throw their support behind Roy Moore, including those 53 Alabama preachers. Now more information has come out concerning Moore's past. Like the fact that it was know he'd prowl malls and hit on teens. If those who supported Moore would've just kept quiet, they wouldn't have looked like hacks.
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Moore's first response was really a bad choice, too. Sure, he could deny one particular allegation or specific details, but he should have known that there are enough people around who knew about his propensity for teenagers that he couldn't get by with "never happened, wasn't me..." Now it looks even more believable than it was originally. People are starting to come out of the woodwork. :clap: :lol: :lol:

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He signed some high school chicks year book when he was a DA. How do we know this? He signed it as Roy Moore, D.A.
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New woman accuses Roy Moore of sexual assault when she was a minor

... Nelson said that her coming forward has nothing to do with politics, noting that both she and her husband, a truck driver, voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election....

On Thursday, the Washington Post published its bombshell report quoting a woman, Leigh Corfman, who alleged that in 1979 — when she was 14 and Moore was 32 — Moore partially undressed her and himself, touched her over her undergarments and guided her hand to touch him. The age of consent in Alabama was then and remains 16.

The story also quoted three other women who said Moore hit on them when they were 16 to 18 and he was in his 30s....
I don't know about the other women, but Corfman is also a Repub that voted for POSPOTUS. Not that it makes their accounts less believable, but how does a teen sexual assault victim ever vote for an admitted sexual assaulter that peeped on naked mid-teen girls?
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He signed some high school chicks year book when he was a DA. How do we know this? He signed it as Roy Moore, D.A.
She is the worst assault we know of so far. Roy Moore, Dumb Ass.
New woman accuses Roy Moore of sexual assault when she was a minor

... Nelson said that she met Moore when she was a 15-year-old waitress at the restaurant. Nelson said that on Dec. 22, 1977, she brought her high school yearbook to work, and Moore asked her to sign it.

“To a sweeter more beautiful girl I could not say ‘Merry Christmas,’” Moore allegedly wrote in the yearbook, signing it: “Love, Roy Moore, D.A.” ...
Is that saying that he could say it to her because she's wasn't sweet and beautiful enough? :D
... Nelson said that her coming forward has nothing to do with politics, noting that both she and her husband, a truck driver, voted for Donald Trump in the 2016 presidential election....

On Thursday, the Washington Post published its bombshell report quoting a woman, Leigh Corfman, who alleged that in 1979 — when she was 14 and Moore was 32 — Moore partially undressed her and himself, touched her over her undergarments and guided her hand to touch him. The age of consent in Alabama was then and remains 16.

The story also quoted three other women who said Moore hit on them when they were 16 to 18 and he was in his 30s....
I don't know about the other women, but Corfman is also a Repub that voted for POSPOTUS. Not that it makes their accounts less believable, but how does a teen sexual assault victim ever vote for an admitted sexual assaulter that peeped on naked mid-teen girls?
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Roy Moore also wrote the name of the restaurant the girl worked at as a waitress when he signed her year book.

All this was released after Roy Moore denied even knowing the person.

Conservatives that have stepped up in support of Roy Moore, you threw your support behind a pedophile. He's all yours.
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The interview with the latest one (yearbook girl) was pretty lame, IMNVHO. Not that I don't believe her, in general, but c'mon - she's a 55 year old woman bawling like a banshee over the event from long ago. I'm sure it was frightening or traumatic at the time, but really - what happened? A guy tried to grab her, she escaped with no real damage. Something similar has probably happened to more women than not. I wonder if the crying was Gloria's idea.

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The interview with the latest one (yearbook girl) was pretty lame, IMNVHO. Not that I don't believe her, in general, but c'mon - she's a 55 year old woman bawling like a banshee over the event from long ago. I'm sure it was frightening or traumatic at the time, but really - what happened? A guy tried to grab her, she escaped with no real damage. Something similar has probably happened to more women than not. I wonder if the crying was Gloria's idea.
I didn't watch it, I've only read the articles. However, she is a Dolt .45-voting, Alabama housewife of a trucker in NYC for probably her first ever press conference. Not sure we can blame Gloria Allred for how she presents herself.
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O Really wrote:
Tue Nov 14, 2017 8:39 am
The interview with the latest one (yearbook girl) was pretty lame, IMNVHO. Not that I don't believe her, in general, but c'mon - she's a 55 year old woman bawling like a banshee over the event from long ago. I'm sure it was frightening or traumatic at the time, but really - what happened? A guy tried to grab her, she escaped with no real damage. Something similar has probably happened to more women than not. I wonder if the crying was Gloria's idea.
I didn't watch it, I've only read the articles. However, she is a Dolt .45-voting, Alabama housewife of a trucker in NYC for probably her first ever press conference. Not sure we can blame Gloria Allred for how she presents herself.
It did seem way over the top, especially in light of her voting for someone accussed of much the same thing.
Gloria should have known to tell her that the hysterics hurt her case.
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