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He's being claimed as a member by a white nationalist group. (story to come, they say)

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O Really wrote:
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He's being claimed as a member by a white nationalist group. (story to come, they say)
CBC: White nationalist militia says teen charged in Florida school shooting was a member
The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.

Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group wants Florida to become its own white ethnostate. He said his group holds "spontaneous random demonstrations" and tries not to participate in the modern world.

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Interesting, "participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee" is detail that lends some credibility. Also, you would think that Jordan Jereb wouldn't go out of his way to admit it unless he knew it was going to come out, anyhow. We'll see.
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Feb 15, 2018 1:58 pm
Also, you would think that Jordan Jereb wouldn't go out of his way to admit it unless he knew it was going to come out, anyhow. We'll see.
Normally it's a myth that "there's no such thing as bad publicity." But for the type of people he wants to attract, it's all good. For a fringe-of-the-fringe group, ANY relevance is good. They'll gain a lot more followers than they'll lose. They'll gain street cred, notoriety and brownie points in white supremacist / alt right circles.

It also tells potential critics "These are the type of people associated with us. You don't dare criticize us."

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Mugshots.com: JORDAN JEREB
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Normally it's a myth that "there's no such thing as bad publicity." But for the type of people he wants to attract, it's all good. For a fringe-of-the-fringe group, ANY relevance is good. They'll gain a lot more followers than they'll lose. They'll gain street cred, notoriety and brownie points in white supremacist / alt right circles.

It also tells potential critics "These are the type of people associated with us. You don't dare criticize us."
I hear you, but I was thinking that school shootings cross a line. I could be wrong. Maybe he's emulating ISIS where nothing is too despicable to take credit for.

Now, I'm a little disturbed by your intimate knowledge of white supremacists and their mindset. :P
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Oh my... From a "prominent" forum - speculation school officials said nothing to law enforcement due to political correctness (shooter had a Hispanic last name), or maybe because he was a dreamer...
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Matthew Heimbach visits Jordan Jereb [REPOST]

I can see not knowing how bad the audio would be, but what kind of moron posts a video with such crappy audio? It screams, "We are fuck-ups!"
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Now, I'm a little disturbed by your intimate knowledge of white supremacists and their mindset.
I spent a few years debunking their lies on Digg and then Reddit. And yes, reading about ISIS.

And then there's current events. The Winter Olympics are for the people who say "Why isn't there a WHITE history month?" :P

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Here's a multi-page forum dedicated to ridiculing Jordan Jereb:

Jordan Jereb / Wriggle / ROF militia - Florida seccesionist and complete fuckup
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CBC: White nationalist militia says teen charged in Florida school shooting was a member
The leader of a white nationalist militia says Florida school shooting suspect Nikolas Cruz was a member of his group and participated in paramilitary drills in Tallahassee.

Jordan Jereb told The Associated Press on Thursday that his group wants Florida to become its own white ethnostate. He said his group holds "spontaneous random demonstrations" and tries not to participate in the modern world.
Hint that it's all BS:
Jereb said he didn't know Cruz personally ...
It doesn't look like RoF is big enough to have had drills where Jereb didn't know everyone personally.
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And then there's current events. The Winter Olympics are for the people who say "Why isn't there a WHITE history month?" :P
Norway currently leads the medal count, followed by Germany, Canada, the Netherlands, Whitesylvania and Albinostan. If you're making predictions, as a rule of thumb countries do better the more they look like the surface they're competing on.

I can only assume that it's nevertheless still popular with non-whites. Much like how many people watch NASCAR for the crashes, non-whites can watch the Winter Olympics while betting on how many different ways white people can injure themselves on ice.

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I hear you, but I was thinking that school shootings cross a line.
Given Roy Moore's alt-right support after HIS high school "outreach" became public, probably not.

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Oh my... From a "prominent" forum - speculation school officials said nothing to law enforcement due to political correctness (shooter had a Hispanic last name), or maybe because he was a dreamer...
A fair concern. The last Cruz to immigrate was linked by the President to the Kennedy assassination.

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JTA wrote:
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Oh my... From a "prominent" forum - speculation school officials said nothing to law enforcement due to political correctness (shooter had a Hispanic last name), or maybe because he was a dreamer...
That's his adoption surname.

Snopes already has a bunch of "Nikolas Cruz" entries.
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https://twitter.com/dnlnss/status/96392 ... %2Fnews%2F
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Columbine - 13 killed, not counting the 2 perps - doesn't even make the top 10 list anymore.
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Vrede too wrote:
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https://twitter.com/dnlnss/status/96392 ... %2Fnews%2F
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I've updated this @teamtrace graphic three times in the past five months.

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Columbine - 13 killed, not counting the 2 perps - doesn't even make the top 10 list anymore.
Seems like these things are more frequent, too.
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I sometimes watch fox so you don't have to

Thank you for your service.

Rep. Eric Swalwell on fox just said,

D-CA15, eastern Alameda County (suburban Bay Area).

"We have to hope and pray that this stuff stops."
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Thu Feb 15, 2018 10:49 am
Why would anyone leave mccain off a list of assholes?
Idk, but I'm guessing that it was just a glitch given that she re-posted his pic and the article that lists him as #1. It would be really dumb to do it for some McCain-protecting reason while also posting the McCain condemnation.
Maybe she felt bad pointing at him because of his cancer, but wasn't he the one who explained his recent vote by saying, why should other people have insurance, look at me, I've good the best health care in the world and it can't save me.

Big screwup by me. The guy on fox was a repug rep who looked a little like swalwell. My fogged early a.m. brain suggested Eric, so I googled rep Eric and the very good congressman popped up and I went with it.
The whack congressman on fox has a thinner face and lighter hair.
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BBC: White House refuses to release photo of Trump gun law repeal

The White House has refused to release a photo of President Donald Trump signing a law making it easier for some people with mental illness to buy guns.

Anyway.

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rstrong wrote:
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BBC: White House refuses to release photo of Trump gun law repeal

The White House has refused to release a photo of President Donald Trump signing a law making it easier for some people with mental illness to buy guns.

Anyway.

Didn't he also sign one reversing an Obama reg. that prevented vets with PTSD from owning guns?
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