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k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
rstrong wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:09 pm
PolitiFact: The Pants on Fire claim that Ossoff supporters celebrated violence against GOP

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The ads come from the Republican Principled PAC:
Principled PAC is run by Republican political consultant Reilly O'Neal, whose LinkedIn profile lists him as working for Tidewater Strategies, a firm based in Raleigh-Durham region of North Carolina.
Reilly O'neal was campaign manager for North Carolina US Senate candidate Greg Brannon. Tidewater Strategies backed former Wall Street executive Frank Roche for the Republican nomination for North Carolina's 4th congressional district.
"Principled"? Seriously?
I still remember a class from elementary or middle school discussing advertising strategies. One is to take a product's worst feature and make it an asset. Hence, lite beer 'Tastes great!', bigotry, misogyny and shaming are 'Family values', sugary drinks that lead to obesity, tooth decay and diabetes are athletic, fun and sexy, etc.
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:06 am
k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
rstrong wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:09 pm
PolitiFact: The Pants on Fire claim that Ossoff supporters celebrated violence against GOP

Image

The ads come from the Republican Principled PAC:
Principled PAC is run by Republican political consultant Reilly O'Neal, whose LinkedIn profile lists him as working for Tidewater Strategies, a firm based in Raleigh-Durham region of North Carolina.
Reilly O'neal was campaign manager for North Carolina US Senate candidate Greg Brannon. Tidewater Strategies backed former Wall Street executive Frank Roche for the Republican nomination for North Carolina's 4th congressional district.
"Principled"? Seriously?
I still remember a class from elementary or middle school discussing advertising strategies. One is to take a product's worst feature and make it an asset. Hence, lite beer 'Tastes great!', bigotry, misogyny and shaming are 'Family values', sugary drinks that lead to obesity, tooth decay and diabetes are athletic, fun and sexy, etc.
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JTA wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:37 am
Vrede too wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:06 am
k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
"Principled"? Seriously?
I still remember a class from elementary or middle school discussing advertising strategies. One is to take a product's worst feature and make it an asset. Hence, lite beer 'Tastes great!', bigotry, misogyny and shaming are 'Family values', sugary drinks that lead to obesity, tooth decay and diabetes are athletic, fun and sexy, etc.
Have you considered a career with the Trump administration?
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:06 am
k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
rstrong wrote:
Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:09 pm
PolitiFact: The Pants on Fire claim that Ossoff supporters celebrated violence against GOP

Image

The ads come from the Republican Principled PAC:
Principled PAC is run by Republican political consultant Reilly O'Neal, whose LinkedIn profile lists him as working for Tidewater Strategies, a firm based in Raleigh-Durham region of North Carolina.
Reilly O'neal was campaign manager for North Carolina US Senate candidate Greg Brannon. Tidewater Strategies backed former Wall Street executive Frank Roche for the Republican nomination for North Carolina's 4th congressional district.
"Principled"? Seriously?
I still remember a class from elementary or middle school discussing advertising strategies. One is to take a product's worst feature and make it an asset. Hence, lite beer 'Tastes great!', bigotry, misogyny and shaming are 'Family values', sugary drinks that lead to obesity, tooth decay and diabetes are athletic, fun and sexy, etc.
I remember that Turd Blossom got this name for doing just that, or the reverse.
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k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
"Principled"? Seriously?
Sure. Principles can be negative, destructive, backwards, hostile, ignorant and hateful.
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Boatrocker wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:45 am
k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
"Principled"? Seriously?
Sure. Principles can be negative, destructive, backwards, hostile, ignorant and hateful.
And evil.
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k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 3:09 pm
Boatrocker wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:45 am
k9nanny wrote:
Wed Jun 21, 2017 7:38 am
"Principled"? Seriously?
Sure. Principles can be negative, destructive, backwards, hostile, ignorant and hateful.
And evil.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:58 am
---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: [Fwd: Thank Your House Lawmakers for Opposing HB 746, the Permitless Carry Bill]
Date: Mon, June 12, 2017 9:55 am
To: Chuck.McGrady@ncleg.net
Cc: Chuck.Edwards@ncleg.net
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Thank you, Rep. McGrady!

I hope that Sen. Edwards will follow your lead.

cc: Governor Cooper

---------------------------- Original Message ----------------------------
Subject: Thank Your House Lawmakers for Opposing HB 746, the Permitless
Carry Bill
From: "NCGV" <ncgv@ncgv.org>
Date: Mon, June 12, 2017 4:52 am
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While HB 746, the permitless carry bill, passed the state house on
Wednesday it was a tigh vote: 65 to 54. All Democrats and 8 Republican
voted against the bill. These courageous lawmakers put children and
safety above special interest politics and also ensured that the bill did
not pass with a veto-proof majority. .

Thank you for all of your calls and emails into key lawmakers. Your
outreach ensured that HB 746 did not include elimination of the pistol
purchase permitting system and allowing campus carry.

During the debate Rep. John Faircloth (R-Guildford), a retired police
chief, pointed out that the legislation would allow anyone, including
those as young as 18 years old to fill a backpack with as many guns as it
can hold. He explained how gangs would use young adults to carry a cache
of weapons and law enforcement would have no statute to protect the
public.

Also of note, the NC Sheriffs Association, Chiefs of Police Association,
and Fraternal Order of Police also expressed opposition about the
legislation, noting their strong support for the concealed carry weapons
permitting system.

The bill now moves to the Senate where it’s future is uncertain. But
first, it’s important that we take time to express our appreciation to
supporters in the House.

Please call these lawmakers to thank them for being brave by putting
communities above special interest groups. Here is a sample message: “I
am calling to thank the representative for standing up for the safety of
North Carolinians by voting against HB 746, the Permitless Gun Carry
Bill.”

Rep. John Faircloth - 919-733-5877

Rep. John Fraley – 919-733-5741

Rep. Ted Davis Jr. - 919-733-5786

Rep. D. Craig Horn - 919-733-2406

Rep. Frank Iler - 919-301-1450

Rep. Chuck McGrady - 919-733-5956

Rep. Sam Watford – 919-715-2526

Rep. Linda Hun Williams - 919-733-2962

Rep. Brian Turner - 919-715-3012

Rep. Michael Wray - 919-733-5662

Rep. Ken Goodman - 919-733-5823

NCGV
http://www.ncgv.org/

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NCGV - P.O. Box 51565, Durham, NC 27717, United States
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Great news! We did it. The N.C. legislature has adjourned for now and they did not pass the permitless carry bill, HB 746. It was because you called, emailed, wrote letters, and visited the General Assembly that this victory was possible. Thank you.

Because of you,18 year olds will not be allowed to carry a hidden loaded weapon in public and all who wish to carry a concealed weapon will have to go through 8 hours of classroom training and live fire training. I don’t know about you but that makes me feel much safer walking around in public.

We also stopped campus carry and the elimination of our background check system on private handgun sales (pistol purchase permitting system). You spoke and the General Assembly listened.

Thank you again,
Becky

PS – Stay tuned for future updates and action because legislators will be coming back to the General Assembly on August 3rd and September 6th. These are for special sessions. We will be there every step of the way fighting to keep North Carolinians safe from gun violence.
Admittedly, it's a bit sad when our victories are exclusively stopping really stupid bills.
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Tell Congress: Pass the Disarm Hate Act

"People convicted of hate crimes should not have access to firearms. Pass the Disarm Hate Act."
Fwiw, I didn't know that there are misdemeanor hate crimes. Hate crime felons, as with all felons, are already precluded from owning.
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Damn gunhugging ammosexuals. How dare they deprive an honest hardworking citizen of his right to drive!

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Murders surge in Florida in decade after `Stand Your Ground’ law

It's shocking to learn that an armed society is an impolite society.
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Je suis Las Vegas.
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Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:08 am
Je suis Las Vegas.

We need more guns.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Je suis Las Vegas.
We need more guns.
"Now is not the time to talk about gun violence."

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rstrong wrote:
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Oct 02, 2017 8:32 am
We need more guns.
"Now is not the time to talk about gun violence."
If only those concertgoers had been armed they could have fired back at the hotel. Maybe some of them would have even hit the 32nd floor.

Back when I was going to Vegas several times a year in the 1990s to oppose nuclear weapons testing and rad waste dumping I considered working at the University Medical Center, Vegas' Level 1 trauma center. I visited with the ER manager, but never ended up applying. A different life and I could have been there treating the injured.
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What kind of inhumane piece of shit says "warmest condolences" in response to a murder, much less a mass shooting.

That's something you say to someone who lost their grandfather to cancer.


This requires something like what Obama or Clinton would have said. Not some orange fuck tweets while taking a shit.
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Big jump is the stock market today around guns
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I looked back at the links to Obama crying during a gun control speech after one of the school shootings.

Added "fox" to my search and all articles were about how shameful it was for him to rub an onions in his eyes.

If for no other reason, I miss Obama's appropriateness.

I fear trump's inability to see people as humans - the same as him.
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