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To: barenal@coconutcreek.net, sleamon@coconutcreek.net, jrydell@coconutcreek.net, swelch@coconutcreek.net, btooley@coconutcreek.net, lsarbone@coconutcreek.net, mbelvedere@coconutcreek.net
Subject: Brian Valenti

Dear Chief of Police Arenal, Public Safety Information Officer Leamon, Mayor Rydell, Vice Mayor Welch, and City Commissioners Tooley, Sarbone and Belvedere,

Re: Florida Cop Under Fire for Violent Facebook Comment About Parkland Student David Hogg
https://www.thedailybeast.com/florida-c ... david-hogg

There are no mulligans when an officer spits on the 1st Amendment and advocates violent terrorism, period. Brian Valenti must be immediately fired and charged.

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So explain me this: cops all over have gotten majorly trigger-happy and skeered fer their lives every time they see a cell phone in a black guy's hand. Yet they can capture a guy who really is "armed and dangerous" and has already killed one cop, hauling him in relatively unharmed. Would he still be alive if he were black? I doubt it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/su ... &ocid=iehp

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So explain me this: cops all over have gotten majorly trigger-happy and skeered fer their lives every time they see a cell phone in a black guy's hand. Yet they can capture a guy who really is "armed and dangerous" and has already killed one cop, hauling him in relatively unharmed. Would he still be alive if he were black? I doubt it.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/su ... &ocid=iehp
. . . or nothing in a black guy's hand at all.
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All snarking aside, though, would you have expected for this guy to ever not get killed? He shot a cop in a traffic stop, had already been in trouble for various assault, etc., was widely advertised as "armed and very dangerous" and was on the run for a couple of days? Lady O and I had already declared him dead man running.

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... would you have expected for this guy to ever not get killed? ...
He's white, so I figured 50-50.
All snarking aside
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(a) should be fired
(b) should be charged with negligence causing injury

LIkely: "opps"- move along, nothing to see here.

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(a) should be fired
(b) should be charged with negligence causing injury

LIkely: "opps"- move along, nothing to see here.
He is clearly white.
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O Really wrote:
Mon Jun 04, 2018 8:54 am
(a) should be fired
(b) should be charged with negligence causing injury

LIkely: "opps"- move along, nothing to see here.
He is clearly white.
You can tell that by his dancing?

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...

LIkely: "opps"- move along, nothing to see here.
With rehab?

(c) should get a gig on Dancing with the Stars
(d) should be transferred to POSPOTUS' Secret Service detail

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How the he'll does the gun discharge? Round in the chamber, cocked and the safety off then picked up by the trigger?
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How the he'll does the gun discharge? Round in the chamber, cocked and the safety off then picked up by the trigger?
Sure wasn't the fall to the floor that made it fire.
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How the he'll does the gun discharge? Round in the chamber, cocked and the safety off then picked up by the trigger?
The gun that can fire when you drop it

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The gun that can fire when you drop it

I'll be damned.
But this gun fired when he picked it up.
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(a) should be fired
(b) should be charged with negligence causing injury

LIkely: "opps"- move along, nothing to see here.
Well, we'll see about the firing, but it looks like at least part of Hell has frozen over and they're charging him with Second Degree Assault.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/67cfccf8-b ... -self.html

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Well, we'll see about the firing, but it looks like at least part of Hell has frozen over and they're charging him with Second Degree Assault.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/67cfccf8-b ... -self.html
They're SD, he's FBI. I think it's different when it's up to one's own agency whether to charge or not.
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:36 pm
Well, we'll see about the firing, but it looks like at least part of Hell has frozen over and they're charging him with Second Degree Assault.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/m/67cfccf8-b ... -self.html
They're SD, he's FBI. I think it's different when it's up to one's own agency whether to charge or not.
I'm sure. But why is that ever the case? Oh yeah - rigged system of "thin blue lines" that extend very far.

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N.F.L. Players to Trump: Here’s Whom You Should Pardon

President Trump recently made an offer to National Football League players like us who are committed to protesting injustice. Instead of protesting, he suggested, we should give him names of people we believe were “unfairly treated by the justice system.” If he agrees they were treated unfairly, he said, he will pardon them.

To be sure, the president’s clemency power can be a valuable tool for redressing injustice. Just look at Alice Johnson, age 63, who was serving a life sentence for a nonviolent drug conviction until her sentence was commuted by President Trump. He should be commended for using his clemency power in that case.

But a handful of pardons will not address the sort of systemic injustice that N.F.L. players have been protesting. These are problems that our government has created, many of which occur at the local level. If President Trump thinks he can end these injustices if we deliver him a few names, he hasn’t been listening to us.

As Americans, it is our constitutional right to question injustices when they occur, and we see them daily: police brutality, unnecessary incarceration, excessive criminal sentencing, residential segregation and educational inequality. The United States effectively uses prison to treat addiction, and you could argue it is also our largest mental-health provider. Law enforcement has a responsibility to serve its communities, yet this responsibility has too often not met basic standards of accountability.

These injustices are so widespread as to seem practically written into our nation’s DNA. We must challenge these norms, investigate the reasons for their pervasiveness and fight with all we have to change them. That is what we, as football players, are trying to do with our activism.

President Trump could help. He could use his powers, including the clemency power, to make a real dent in the federal prison population. People like Alice Johnson, for example, should not be given de facto life sentences for nonviolent drug crimes in the first place. The president could stop that from happening by issuing a blanket pardon for people in that situation who have already served long sentences.

Of the roughly 185,000 people locked up in federal prisons, about 79,000 are there for drug offenses of some kind — and 13.5 percent of them have sentences of 20 years or more. Imagine how many more Alice Johnsons the president could pardon if he treated the issue like the systemic problem it is, rather than asking professional football players for a few cases.

There is also a systemic problem in federal prison involving the elderly, who by next year will make up 28 percent of the federal prison population. Releasing these prisoners would pose little to no risk to society. And yet from 2013 to 2017, the Bureau of Prisons approved only 6 percent of roughly 5,400 “compassionate release” applications. About half of those applications were for people who had been convicted of nonviolent fraud or drug offenses. Of those denied release, 266 died in custody.

President Trump could order the release of any drug offender over the age of 60 whose conviction is not recent. That would be the morally right thing to do.

Apart from using the pardon power, there are policies the president and the attorney general could implement to help. For instance, they could eliminate life without parole for nonviolent offenses. Currently, more than half of those sentenced to die in federal prison are there for nonviolent offenses, and 30 percent of people sentenced to life (or de facto life) are there for a nonviolent drug crimes. Compare that with the state level: Only 2 percent of those sentenced to life (or de facto life) are there for drug offenses.

These changes, if President Trump were to make them, would positively affect the lives of thousands of people and have a lasting beneficial effect on many more people in the future. The president can implement these changes with his pardon power and other executive decisions. His ability to change the lives of people for the better is immense. We hope he uses it, not just for the few, but for the many.

President Trump, please note: Our being professional athletes has nothing to do with our commitment to fighting injustice. We are citizens who embrace the values of empathy, integrity and justice, and we will fight for what we believe is right. We weren’t elected to do this. We do it because we love this country, our communities and the people in them. This is our America, our right.

We intend to continue to challenge and encourage all Americans to remember why we are here in this world. We are here to treat one another with the kindness and respect every human being deserves. And we hope our elected officials will use their power to do the same.
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Cops Are Telling Paramedics To Inject Arrestees With Ketamine. Worse, EMS Crews Are Actually Doing It.

Wow, I hope people get fired and that the victims successfully sue.
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And then some really are still "the good guys..."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/polic ... ocid=wispr

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