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Vrede too wrote:Three former Virginia attorneys general urge commutation of death sentence for Ivan Teleguz

I don't know that Ivan Teleguz is innocent, but how funky this case is proves why we shouldn't have the death penalty.
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Police dept. in Maine upgrades officer qualifications...
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I'm surprised that the black one survived.

After getting busted they butted heads:

Hey kid, ruminate on this - I told you those donuts looked like a dirty, nanny state copper trap.

Doe! Yeah Billy, we were on the lamb but it's baaaack to jail for us. You can't buck the system.
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Body cam footage contradicts officer’s claims in shooting death of teen, police chief says

Anyone surprised?
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Do you think nobody can read or hear these headlines in other venues for themselves, attention queenie?
If you're not seeking attention, what else would you call it? Maybe you think everyone else is too illiterate to gather news on their own, so it's your responsibility to clue them in?
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Vrede too on Jul 20, 2016 wrote:(North Miami, FL) Police shoot autistic man's (unarmed) caretaker as he lies in street

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Support your local police, shoot yourself.
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North Miami Officer Is Arrested Over Shooting Of Therapist During Standoff

9 months, but better late than never. The article doesn't say whether North Miami police Officer Jonathan Aledda was back on the streets during the overlong interim.
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Tell the FEC: Investigate if private prison companies illegally donated to Trump’s election!

Petition to the Federal Election Commission:

A subsidiary of GEO Group, a private prison operator with a troubled record, contributed $225,000 to a Trump-affiliated super PAC. GEO itself contributed $250,000 to Trump’s inauguration. It was then granted a $110 million contract from the Justice Department after the DOJ rescinded President Obama's phase-out of private prisons. Federal contractors are prohibited by law from making political contributions. Please convene an investigation into this and other potentially illegal political contributions to President Trump.
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CBC: Peel cop asks party to quiet down, comes back to rock out on the drums
About half an hour passed before the two constables returned to the backyard party on Cliff Drive. 

Surely that was the end of the party, Bjelic thought, and the mood among the 75 or so guests sank for a moment, he said.

Then something entirely unexpected happened. He asked if they had come back to shut it down.

"'Well no'," Bjelic recalls one of the officers saying. "'I was hoping I could sit in on a song with the band'."

The constable took off his standard duty boots, sat down behind the drum kit, and proceeded to pound the skins like a madman to the band's original music, Bjelic said.

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Cop Rock.
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Boatrocker wrote:Cop Rock.

That's what Andy would do when the Darlings would disturb the peace


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Aw, that one makes me cry!
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Murder case dropped after man serves 25 years in prison

Prosecutors dropped all charges Thursday against a Detroit man who accused police of pinning a murder on him by seizing his mother's gun and switching bullets in a case that kept him in prison for 25 years....

The 51-year-old let out a deep sigh and hugged and shook hands with his legal team, mostly lawyers and students from the Innocence Clinic at University of Michigan's law school. They asked the judge to reopen the case in 2016 after photos of two bullets taken from the victim, Gerry Bennett, did not resemble the bullets that were examined by a gun expert before trial 25 years ago....

David Moran, director of the Innocence Clinic, said police conduct was "criminal." But no retired officers can be pursued because too many years have passed....
I don't know if it's legally defensible, but my opinion is that a new crime occurs each day that the wrongly convicted stays in prison. The clock on the statute of limitations shouldn't start until the day of exoneration.

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"it is better and more satisfactory to acquit a thousand guilty persons than to put a single innocent one to death."
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"one would much rather that twenty guilty persons should escape the punishment of death, than that one innocent person should be condemned and suffer capitally."
-- Sir John Fortescue's De Laudibus Legum Angliae (c. 1470)

"It were better that Ten Suspected Witches should escape, than that one Innocent Person should be Condemned."
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"All presumptive evidence of felony should be admitted cautiously; for the law holds it better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent party suffer."
-- English jurist William Blackstone in his seminal work, Commentaries on the Laws of England, published in the 1760s.

"it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape than that one innocent Person should suffer".
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I don't know if it's legally defensible, but my opinion is that a new crime occurs each day that the wrongly convicted stays in prison. The clock on the statute of limitations shouldn't start until the day of exoneration.
That theory isn't unreasonable, and is in line with the rationale of the Lily Ledbetter Fair Pay Act that states that the 180-day statute of limitations for filing an equal-pay lawsuit regarding pay discrimination resets with each new paycheck affected by that discriminatory action. (Side comment: compare that as the first bill signed by Obama with Trump's efforts to date). But other statutes of limitations are different. Interestingly, the article didn't say the statute of limitations had been reached, only that "too much time" had gone by. In any case, he may be able to sue the city as a civil matter, and in the meantime he'll hopefully be able to live off the $50,000 per year of incarceration ($1,250,000) he's eligible for, assuming they don't shaft him out of it.

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... Interestingly, the article didn't say the statute of limitations had been reached, only that "too much time" had gone by....
It's just my assumption. Besides murder, are any statutes of limitations 25 years or longer? If it's just laziness and defeatism on the part of the prosecutors, that's even worse. At the least, I'd like to see the liars' names outed.
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In Michigan, for felonies, murder: none; kidnapping, extortion, assault with intent or conspiracy to murder: 10 yrs.; others: 6 yrs. No specific mention of perjury, railroading or prosecution for being black, so it looks like the cops are safe. Probably the city is safe from civil suit now, also, unless they could manage to count each appeal and each request for review to be a new incident of willfully keeping an innocent person jailed. Long shot. I'd probably focus on getting my 1.25 mill and living the rest of my life.

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