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Vrede too wrote:
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1 Alabama (61)
2 Clemson (3)
3 Ohio State (1)
4 Georgia
5 Oklahoma
6 Washington
7 Wisconsin
8 Miami
9 Penn State
10 Auburn

Ugh, can't stand the top 5. Go Huskies/Badgers/'Canes.
6 and 10 play on 9.1
Wow, a real game scheduled early by top teams. What's the world coming to? In theory, this game could put the winner into the championship game, though it probably doesn't knock the loser out.

Auburn is favored by 3, the home field advantage. Wanna bet? I'll give you straight up, $25 or more to the winner's selected charity, loser can reject charities until an agreeable one is proposed, honor system.
Week 1, not a lot of competitive games. Go:

#6 Washington +2.5 vs #10 Auburn - best game of the week, 3:30 PM ET
Maryland +13.5 vs #23 Texas :D
Appalachian St. +24 vs #10 Penn St. :D
#17 West Virginia -9.5 vs Tennessee
#14 Michigan +1 vs #12 Notre Dame - 2nd best game of the week, 7:30 PM ET
#8 Miami (FL) -3 vs #25 LSU - 3rd or 4th best game of the week, Sun 09/02 07:30 PM ET
#20 Virginia Tech vs #19 Florida St. - Off Line at the moment, will probably change, 3rd or 4th best game of the week, Mon 09/03 08:00 PM ET
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Changes from above:

#6 Washington +1.5 vs #9 Auburn - interesting, less respect for WDE
Maryland +13.5 vs #23 Texas :D
Appalachian St. +23.5 vs #10 Penn St. :D
#17 West Virginia -10 vs Tennessee
#14 Michigan +1 vs #12 Notre Dame
#8 Miami (FL) -3.5 vs #25 LSU
#20 Virginia Tech + 7.5 vs #19 Florida St.
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Maryland +13.5 vs #23 Texas :D
Long Maryland drive for a TD then forced a Texas punt. Having won the 1st drives, I'm changing the channel now. ;)

Edit, 4 real time minutes later: Damn, wasn't fast enough - Maryland punt, good Texas runback, bomb on 1st play, tie score. :lol:

Edit, 6 real time minutes later: Maryland bomb, 14-7 six game time minutes into the game.
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How 'bout them Terps! :clap:

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Sat Sep 01, 2018 6:58 pm
How 'bout them Terps! :clap:
:thumbup:

Too bad about the Huskies. Nice showing away from home.
Vrede too wrote:
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#6 Washington +1.5 vs #9 Auburn
Maryland +13.5 vs #23 Texas :D
Appalachian St. +23.5 vs #10 Penn St. :D
PSU up 45-38 in OT, Appalachian St. still has a possession.
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Damn App State!
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Damn App State!
Yep, threw INT, 38-45. :( Oh well, beat the spread. :D
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We got us a Boobee redshirt freshman who couldn't be stopped tonight.

https://www.seccountry.com/auburn/aubur ... -run-a-day


He's 5'7" and knocks defensive lineman down. I'm not sure why we didn't use him more.
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Changes from above:

#6 Washington +1.5 vs #9 Auburn - interesting, less respect for WDE. Congrats. Darn, could still be a contender, though.
Maryland +13.5 vs #23 Texas :D Yes :!:
Appalachian St. +23.5 vs #10 Penn St. :D Oh well.
#17 West Virginia -10 vs Tennessee Yep, big time.
#14 Michigan +1 vs #12 Notre Dame Nope. :(
#8 Miami (FL) -3.5 vs #25 LSU Yikes, even worse than the 17-33 final score, two meaningless Miami TDs in the 4th.
#20 Virginia Tech + 7.5 vs #19 Florida St. 24-3, it's always a good week when FSU gets shamed. :thumbup:
I finished 8-8, tied for 9th out of 18. :|
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Aug 30, 2018 10:17 am
Changes from above:

#6 Washington +1.5 vs #9 Auburn - interesting, less respect for WDE. Congrats. Darn, could still be a contender, though.
Maryland +13.5 vs #23 Texas :D Yes :!:
Appalachian St. +23.5 vs #10 Penn St. :D Oh well.
#17 West Virginia -10 vs Tennessee Yep, big time.
#14 Michigan +1 vs #12 Notre Dame Nope. :(
#8 Miami (FL) -3.5 vs #25 LSU Yikes, even worse than the 17-33 final score, two meaningless Miami TDs in the 4th.
#20 Virginia Tech + 7.5 vs #19 Florida St. 24-3, it's always a good week when FSU gets shamed. :thumbup:
I finished 8-8, tied for 9th out of 18. :|
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Whining is whining, but there has to be something at least slightly real about the disregard Auburn gets from the media.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/C ... 121337841/


#9 beats #6

#9 moves to#8

and #6 stays at #6



And then there's already whining from blue field Chris Petersen ultimate whine machine.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2 ... 178230002/

"It is not fair to judge Washington"

"In a universe based on fairness and justice, we’d note how ridiculous it is that the perception of Washington’s football program is largely going to be based on the outcome of a so-called neutral site game that took place three time zones from its campus against another top-10 team who had 90% of the fans at Mercedes-Benz Stadium."


Well, of course they shouldn't be expected to win a road game.


"Actually, though, we don’t know if Auburn is a great team or will become one."
Fair enough, if the context weren't how great Washington is.

"But even then, Auburn would have the opportunity to turn the narrative just as it did last season after an ugly loss to Clemson. That’s the beauty of playing in the SEC."


The beauty? The opportunity to turn a narrative?
We beat #1 in the country in each of our last 2 regular season games.

And "ugly loss" in our first game. Didn't this guy just claim that considering the first game isn't fair? Didn't he go on and on about the outcome could have been a coin toss as the game was so close? The Clemson loss was also a one score loss and a game full of missed opportunities, but I don't remember any articles lamenting our drop in the polls after getting beat by #1.


"And they almost did, holding a 16-15 lead until Auburn scored on a 76-yard drive with 6:15 left."

Wow - did they hold the lead for 54 minutes, or was it less than 8 minutes of the whole game? I'll go with the less than 8. Auburn lead for 49 minutes and also lead at the end of the game.


"Only a fool would write off a team as good as the Huskies based on what happened Saturday. But in the narrative-driven world of college football where image matters and rankings rule all, there tend to be a lot of fools."

Reckon I'm a fool, but a team that doesn't play a tough schedule and doesn't play a tough schedule, doesn't get my respect until they do something.


That said in my best whining voice, let me add that the chief Washington apoligizer first posted this a couple of hours after the game - so it looks like he knew all along that Washington wasn't going to beat Auburn.
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I dunno, man, but public perception is built over a long time and lasts way past it being real. You could take the entire Alabama team and send them to UNC and the sports raters would rank them maybe in the top 20. Or you could be UCF.

But maybe it's just the shadow of being "the other team" in Alabama?

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I dunno, man, but public perception is built over a long time and lasts way past it being real. You could take the entire Alabama team and send them to UNC and the sports raters would rank them maybe in the top 20. Or you could be UCF.

But maybe it's just the shadow of being "the other team" in Alabama?

Not so sure about a team as good as Alabama not getting respect if in NC. FSU has never had trouble with respect, even during the years that the ACC didn't really have anything.

Auburn and Georgia brought football to the South

Heisman coached at Auburn

We have 3 heisman winners and national titles

We have always had a name. The little brother complex is all bamner hype.

I'm not criticizing where we are ranked. I don't know what we have - other than a fairly solid team,

but

Who loses to a lower ranked team and doesn't lose its rank? I've never seen it happen.

Washington plays in a fairly good conference. They may be tested again, but it looks to me like they lucked out in a conference that is in an off year. We still have lsu, Mississippi state, Georgia, and Alabama.

UCF and Boise need to try playing a schedule. Until then, it's all whining.
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I finished 8-8, tied for 9th out of 18. :|
Congratulations, you tied with Chance! ;)
Yep, I coulda flipped a coin and gone for a hike.
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Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:19 am
Whining is whining, but there has to be something at least slightly real about the disregard Auburn gets from the media.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/C ... 121337841/

#9 beats #6

#9 moves to#8

and #6 stays at #6

And then there's already whining from blue field Chris Petersen ultimate whine machine.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2 ... 178230002/ ...
ESPN says, "From Nos. 25 to 1, here are the changes in ESPN's Week 1 Top 25." Then, it doesn't even bother to say what it's old rankings were, weird. It uses a computer model, its supposedly objective Football Power Index. I think computer models can be useful, but doubt they can account for all intangibles. I prefer the AP and coaches. Their rankings should be out soon, maybe within the hour.

I don't think anyone uses ESPN's FPI other than ESPN.

I'm not going to bother picking apart or agreeing with Chris Petersen. My opinion:

It was an away game for the Huskies.
Either team coulda won.
Both teams could be in the playoffs.
Auburn did win.
Auburn should be ranked higher than the Huskies.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 11:29 am
O Really wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 8:37 am
Vrede too wrote:
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I finished 8-8, tied for 9th out of 18. :|
Congratulations, you tied with Chance! ;)
Yep, I coulda flipped a coin and gone for a hike.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Sep 04, 2018 9:19 am
Whining is whining, but there has to be something at least slightly real about the disregard Auburn gets from the media.

https://247sports.com/LongFormArticle/C ... 121337841/

#9 beats #6

#9 moves to#8

and #6 stays at #6

And then there's already whining from blue field Chris Petersen ultimate whine machine.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/2 ... 178230002/ ...
ESPN says, "From Nos. 25 to 1, here are the changes in ESPN's Week 1 Top 25." Then, it doesn't even bother to say what it's old rankings were, weird. It uses a computer model, its supposedly objective Football Power Index. I think computer models can be useful, but doubt they can account for all intangibles. I prefer the AP and coaches. Their rankings should be out soon, maybe within the hour.

I don't think anyone uses ESPN's FPI other than ESPN.

I'm not going to bother picking apart or agreeing with Chris Petersen. My opinion:

It was an away game for the Huskies.
Either team coulda won.
Both teams could be in the playoffs.
Auburn did win.
Auburn should be ranked higher than the Huskies.

And it now seems that they are.

Not sure what to make of the 24/7 sports article I posted
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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... My opinion:

... Auburn should be ranked higher than the Huskies.
And it now seems that they are.
So far just the Coaches' Rankings according to NBC, unless you mean some other ESPN ranking.
Coaches' Rankings

1 Alabama (1-0)
2 Clemson (1-0)
3 Georgia (1-0)
4 Ohio State (1-0)
5 Oklahoma (1-0)
6 Wisconsin (1-0)
7 Auburn (1-0)
8 Notre Dame (1-0)
9 Stanford (1-0)
10 Penn State (1-0)
11 Washington (0-1)
I would argue that Auburn had the strongest opponent by far, that only Alabama had a real opponent, and that Auburn should at least be ranked higher than Clemson, Georgia, Ohio State, Oklahoma and Wisconsin if not all 6.

There's usually not a huge difference between the Coaches and AP, but it's probably larger early in the season.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Not sure what to make of the 24/7 sports article I posted
Just ESPN's scheme, one among many, minimal import.
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AP Rankings

1 Alabama (1-0)
2 Clemson (1-0)
3 Georgia (1-0)
4 Ohio State (1-0)
5 Wisconsin (1-0)
6 Oklahoma (1-0)
7 Auburn (1-0)
8 Notre Dame (1-0)
9 Washington (0-1)
10 Stanford (1-0)
11 LSU (1-0)
Respect for Auburn that Washington loses and is still ranked higher than these and more 1-0 teams. Only #21 Michigan and #22 Miami (FL) lost and are still ranked.
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AP Rankings

1 Alabama (1-0)
2 Clemson (1-0)
3 Georgia (1-0)
4 Ohio State (1-0)
5 Wisconsin (1-0)
6 Oklahoma (1-0)
7 Auburn (1-0)
8 Notre Dame (1-0)
9 Washington (0-1)
10 Stanford (1-0)
11 LSU (1-0)
Respect for Auburn that Washington loses and is still ranked higher than these and more 1-0 teams. Only #21 Michigan and #22 Miami (FL) lost and are still ranked.
At this point, I agree with this. We have more unknowns than any ranked higher - other than the Ohio coaching situation.

Early polls shouldn't mean much, unless your team was the best undefeated team (2004) in the country with the hardest schedule in the country and was shut out of the playoffs because other teams were #1 and #2 first.
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Maryland didn't get much respect after beating then #23 Texas, a few votes but no ranking. This week it massacres Bowling Green and probably doesn't have even a hope for top 25 until playing #21 Michigan on 10/6.

This week's even worse for offline games vs. FCS teams and blowout spreads. 2 games have top 25 teams playing each other. Of the other 23, 8 including Auburn, Oregon and Washington are offline.

Go:

Pittsburgh +9 vs #13 Penn St.
#10 Stanford -5 vs #17 USC
#15 Michigan St. -6 vs Arizona St.

That's it. I've bet on 15 games, of course, but those are the only 3 that I care about and that might be competitive. :gthumb:
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Vrede too wrote:
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Maryland didn't get much respect after beating then #23 Texas, a few votes but no ranking. This week it massacres Bowling Green and probably doesn't have even a hope for top 25 until playing #21 Michigan on 10/6.

This week's even worse for offline games vs. BCS teams and blowout spreads. 2 games have top 25 teams playing each other. Of the other 23, 8 including Auburn, Oregon and Washington are offline.

Go:

Pittsburgh +9 vs #13 Penn St.
#10 Stanford -5 vs #17 USC
#15 Michigan St. -6 vs Arizona St.

That's it. I've bet on 15 games, of course, but those are the only 3 that I care about and that might be competitive. :gthumb:
What, no bets on Auburn v Alabama State?

I don't have a clue about this year's team, but they have a few conference championships in a conference that includes Grambling and Southern. Could be interesting.


And then, there's the rest of the schedule. We'll break 500, but we have 4, maybe 6 that could go either way. (That's why ucf and Boise shouldn't receive consideration at anyplace in the top 10 - until they play a schedule - imagine ucf playing lsu, Arkansas, Southern Mississippi, Mississippi State, Tennessee and old miss, back to back, then an off week before playing Texas A&M and Georgia, followed by an easy one before Alabam, while keeping their undefeated record)

And even if we win them all, we still have the next week against (probably) Georgia - could be Florida.


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