College football

[billy.pilgrim]

UWF went down 37 to 27.
Our Canadian QB tried, but didn't have the protection.

Damn you, Texas A&M-Commerce.

Not bad for the 2nd year of football.

[Vrede too]

Not bad for the 2nd year of football.

2017 Football Roster
Lot of Floridians, of course, but looks like it also gets Alabama and Georgia Bubbas that weren't good enough for FBS or FCS. Sheesh, that's a lot of players for Division II.

... It was 2 or 3 years ago that I won the Bowl Pool AND got my money back for the worst pick set.

7 possible points yesterday, I scored 6, 3 and 1.

Tied with 1 other for 2nd, tied with 5 others for last.

[Boatrocker]

. . . I worry that I pissed Boat off with my last bammer post - hope not, I enjoy his posts and invite him to trash Auburn at every chance. There is always next year.

Not a chance. I've just been enjoying a long-overdue internet detox, restricting my browsing to porn sites and job hunting. I got a new job in early November after facing the fact that my 32-year career in engineering/design was in end-stage CHF with no remission in sight. I am now working as a professional woodworker at a (pray for me) start-up offering high end commercial and residential wood work and finishing. I feel appreciated again. But I work 12 hour days- including lunch and longer commute- 4 days a week and have little time or inclination for internet fuqueing around, and not al all during the work day.
But don't relax; I'll be back.

And kiss my ass, barner.

[Vrede too]

... I worry that I pissed Boat off with my last bammer post . . .

I doubt it. He doesn't seem the type to run from trash talk, especially over sports, he's always disappeared for long stretches . . . and he still goes to his AL family gatherings. You can't be as bad as they are. If anything, I'd guess that not having cons to beat up makes this forum less interesting to him.

Not a chance. I've just been enjoying a long-overdue internet detox, restricting my browsing to porn sites and job hunting. I got a new job in early November after facing the fact that my 32-year career in engineering/design was in end-stage CHF with no remission in sight. I am now working as a professional woodworker at a (pray for me) start-up offering high end commercial and residential wood work and finishing. I feel appreciated again. But I work 12 hour days- including lunch and longer commute- 4 days a week and have little time or inclination for internet fuqueing around, and not al all during the work day.
But don't relax; I'll be back.

And kiss my ass, barner.

Congrats, I guess, you sound like you have mixed feelings. I hope you end up better off.

Go Bammer, or not.

[billy.pilgrim]

. . . I worry that I pissed Boat off with my last bammer post - hope not, I enjoy his posts and invite him to trash Auburn at every chance. There is always next year.

Not a chance. I've just been enjoying a long-overdue internet detox, restricting my browsing to porn sites and job hunting. I got a new job in early November after facing the fact that my 32-year career in engineering/design was in end-stage CHF with no remission in sight. I am now working as a professional woodworker at a (pray for me) start-up offering high end commercial and residential wood work and finishing. I feel appreciated again. But I work 12 hour days- including lunch and longer commute- 4 days a week and have little time or inclination for internet fuqueing around, and not al all during the work day.
But don't relax; I'll be back.

And kiss my ass, barner.

Good to hear from you. I'm still not sure how a team can be so thoroughly trashed in their last game of the season and not even make it to their conference championship can get to the playoffs. Maybe claiming all those fake championships does work.I

As much as I enjoy seeing dabo and Clemson lose, I'm not sure who to root for in this matchup.

[Vrede too]

Underdogs beat the spread in 5 of 6 games on Saturday and won outright in 4 of those games. I like upsets.

Ohio St. fans have a legit gripe in theory, but folks do seem to think that Alabama is the best team in there. I’m glad I’m not on the PSC.

I told my brother to send the $15 side bet he owed me to Doug Jones. I think my $45 put him over the top.

In the semis Alabama is favored by just 2 1/2, Georgia is favored by just 2 1 1/2.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foo ... las-vegas/
Closest 2 games ever?

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foo ... s/futures/
Odds to win 2017 College Football Championship Game (1/8/18)
Team / Odds
Alabama 2/1
Clemson 5/2
Oklahoma 7/2
Georgia 7/2

Outcome of College Football Playoff Championship (1/8/18)
Teams / Odds
Alabama defeats Georgia 4/1
Alabama defeats Oklahoma 9/2
Clemson defeats Georga 9/2
Clemson defeats Oklahoma 6/1
Georgia defeats Alabama 13/2
Georgia defeats Clemson 7/1
Oklahoma defeats Alabama 13/2
Oklahoma defeats Clemson 7/1

... Maybe I'll pick GA and OK for champ since they haven't won recently.

I'm going with:

Alabama defeats Oklahoma
Georgia defeats Alabama
Oklahoma defeats Clemson

It’s interesting pool strategy. Do you pick the most likely to happen, which may mean that you’re still competing with several others, or do you pick the least likely to happen which may mean that you’ve got a niche all to yourself? These things matter more if you’re like me and don’t care for any of the 4 sucky teams.

Alabama defeats Oklahoma - 4 (including me)
Clemson defeats Georgia - 1
Clemson defeats Oklahoma - 4
Georgia defeats Alabama - 2 (including me)
Georgia defeats Clemson - 2
Oklahoma defeats Alabama - 2
Oklahoma defeats Clemson - 2 (including me)

So:
Each team has 4 backers except for Clemson having 5. Surprising balance.
9 think Clemson will win the semi, 8 Alabama.
9 think the favorites Clemson or Alabama will win the Championship, 8 not.
12 think Oklahoma will win the semi, only 5 Georgia.
Those Georgia bettors are committed, though. 4 of the 5 think it will win the Championship.
One player has a lock on Clemson defeats Georgia.
Most surprising - Not 1 of us picked what Vegas thinks is most likely: Alabama defeats Georgia. Did we out think ourselves?

[O Really]

It’s interesting pool strategy. Do you pick the most likely to happen, which may mean that you’re still competing with several others,
I don't do football pools, but I've won several March Madness pools with that approach.
...
Most surprising - Not 1 of us picked what Vegas thinks is most likely: Alabama defeats Georgia. Did we out think ourselves?

So I guess if I were picking, along with my usual strategy, I'd have to root for Bammer. Arrgh. I'm glad I'm not picking - too much repel-repel internal conflict.

[Vrede too]

So I guess if I were picking, along with my usual strategy, I'd have to root for Bammer. Arrgh. I'm glad I'm not picking - too much repel-repel internal conflict.

If it was just this year's playoffs, I wouldn't participate.

Go Huskies +2, PSU sucks.
Go Central Florida +9.5, Auburn sucks.
Go Stanford +2.5, TCU sucks.
Go Appalachian State +7.5, Toledo sucks.

Tonight: Go Akron +22.5.

[billy.pilgrim]

Underdogs beat the spread in 5 of 6 games on Saturday and won outright in 4 of those games. I like upsets.

Ohio St. fans have a legit gripe in theory, but folks do seem to think that Alabama is the best team in there. I’m glad I’m not on the PSC.

I told my brother to send the $15 side bet he owed me to Doug Jones. I think my $45 put him over the top.

In the semis Alabama is favored by just 2 1/2, Georgia is favored by just 2 1 1/2.
http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foo ... las-vegas/
Closest 2 games ever?

http://www.vegasinsider.com/college-foo ... s/futures/
Odds to win 2017 College Football Championship Game (1/8/18)
Team / Odds
Alabama 2/1
Clemson 5/2
Oklahoma 7/2
Georgia 7/2

Outcome of College Football Playoff Championship (1/8/18)
Teams / Odds
Alabama defeats Georgia 4/1
Alabama defeats Oklahoma 9/2
Clemson defeats Georga 9/2
Clemson defeats Oklahoma 6/1
Georgia defeats Alabama 13/2
Georgia defeats Clemson 7/1
Oklahoma defeats Alabama 13/2
Oklahoma defeats Clemson 7/1

... Maybe I'll pick GA and OK for champ since they haven't won recently.

I'm going with:

Alabama defeats Oklahoma
Georgia defeats Alabama
Oklahoma defeats Clemson

It’s interesting pool strategy. Do you pick the most likely to happen, which may mean that you’re still competing with several others, or do you pick the least likely to happen which may mean that you’ve got a niche all to yourself? These things matter more if you’re like me and don’t care for any of the 4 sucky teams.

Alabama defeats Oklahoma - 4 (including me)
Clemson defeats Georgia - 1
Clemson defeats Oklahoma - 4
Georgia defeats Alabama - 2 (including me)
Georgia defeats Clemson - 2
Oklahoma defeats Alabama - 2
Oklahoma defeats Clemson - 2 (including me)

So:
Each team has 4 backers except for Clemson having 5. Surprising balance.
9 think Clemson will win the semi, 8 Alabama.
9 think the favorites Clemson or Alabama will win the Championship, 8 not.
12 think Oklahoma will win the semi, only 5 Georgia.
Those Georgia bettors are committed, though. 4 of the 5 think it will win the Championship.
One player has a lock on Clemson defeats Georgia.
Most surprising - Not 1 of us picked what Vegas thinks is most likely: Alabama defeats Georgia. Did we out think ourselves?

I agree that Bama is better than Ohio state. So are several other teams, but Ohio state didn't lose their last game and did win their conference.

Maybe we should abandon the playoffs and just award the championship to the one we feel should get it.

This is the second time a team has lost their conference but got to play for the championship. There outta be a law.

[Vrede too]

I'm not saying that it's right or even that I know what right is, but they've apparently decided that 2 losses is an automatic disqualification. Was WI's schedule that much weaker?

Another way to do it is 'feelings' - The AP, Coaches and Vegas all think that Alabama should be in.

Another way to do it would be winning a Power 5 conference championship - Ohio State or USC this year.

I want people to keep bitching until we get an 8, 12 or even 16 team playoff. Another thing I would do is require coaches to stick with their team until after the Bowls. If that means banning all recruiting activity until after the Championship, so be it.

Who are your picks for Champion and 2nd?

[O Really]

Running sports tournaments/championships is not rocket surgery. Pick any sport other than college football and do it their way. Start with "you gotta win your conference." Other sports don't claim that the champion is always the "best" team in a year, but that it won the championship. It's ridiculous that the winner of the Big 10 (or SEC, or PAC 12 or even ACC recently) isn't eligible for the championship. Any time there's "selection" instead of "win to get in" it's going to be a clusterfuck. Yeah, I know, there's "selection" in NCAA basketball, too, but jeez, they start with 64 teams. That's a little different.

[Vrede too]

... It's ridiculous that the winner of the Big 10 (or SEC, or PAC 12 or even ACC recently) isn't eligible for the championship. Any time there's "selection" instead of "win to get in" it's going to be a clusterfuck.

Big 12, too. Of course, limiting it to the Power 5 (and theoretically Notre Dame) is also "selection". Why not undefeated AAC UCF this year or a Mountain West Boise State in a different year?

Yeah, I know, there's "selection" in NCAA basketball, too,

All the conference champs do get automatic bids, hence the 1st round romps.

but jeez, they start with 64 teams. That's a little different.

4 teams will never be enough.

[O Really]

4 teams for a "championship" is ridiculous. So if - big IF - you thought the final rankings were accurate, AND, you thought that all the top four were pretty evenly matched and any one might deserve to be the winner, then you could pass it off as some sort of "champions bowl." Problem is, those assumptions are inherently contradictory. If the rankings are right, then #4 shouldn't be able to win. If they do, then the rankings weren't right. So if you start that the rankings are a guess, you're even worse off to claim the winner is "champion" because the best team might have been #5. If they're not going to learn from other sports, maybe they should just admit to using WWF or NASCAR as their competition model.

[Vrede too]

4 teams for a "championship" is ridiculous. So if - big IF - you thought the final rankings were accurate, AND, you thought that all the top four were pretty evenly matched and any one might deserve to be the winner, then you could pass it off as some sort of "champions bowl." Problem is, those assumptions are inherently contradictory. If the rankings are right, then #4 shouldn't be able to win. If they do, then the rankings weren't right. So if you start that the rankings are a guess, you're even worse off to claim the winner is "champion" because the best team might have been #5. If they're not going to learn from other sports, maybe they should just admit to using WWF or NASCAR as their competition model.

According to the PSC, AP and Coaches an 8-team playoff would have included Clemson, Oklahoma, Georgia, Alabama AND Ohio State, Wisconsin, Auburn and USC. A 12-team playoff with 1st round byes for the top 4 would have also included Penn State, Miami, Washington and unbeaten UCF. Very few would have any doubts that the best team was somewhere in those top 8 or 12 teams.

[Vrede too]

7 possible points yesterday, I scored 6, 3 and 1.

Tied with 1 other for 2nd, tied with 5 others for last.

Tonight: Go Akron +22.5.

Akron 3, FAU 50. Early on the announcer was griping because Akron went for the FG rather than the TD.

Tied with 3 others for 2nd at 1 out of the lead, tied with 3 others at 1 away from last.

Go Louisiana Tech +5 vs. SMU.

[Vrede too]

... Go Louisiana Tech +5 vs. SMU.

Louisiana Tech went up 42-3 . . . in the first half! Tied with 1 other for 2nd at 1 out of the lead, tied with 3 others at 1 away from last.

Go FL International +7 vs. Temple.

[Vrede too]

... Go FL International +7 vs. Temple.

QB got knocked out of the game in the 1st quarter .

Tied with 1 other for 3rd at 1 out of the lead, tied with 3 others at 1 away from last.

Go Ohio -7.5 vs. UAB, put me into first.
Go Cent. Michigan + 1 vs. WY.

[billy.pilgrim]

FSU fails to qualify for bowl game, but gets to play anyway.

I guess the rules don't apply to RapeSU footballers.

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... dence-bowl


Even I wondered how they could schedule a easy win after they realised that they weren't bowl eligible. The experts on the committee should have known, or maybe they did. After all, the NCAA allowed their rapist to play.

[Vrede too]

FSU fails to qualify for bowl game, but gets to play anyway.

I guess the rules don't apply to RapeSU footballers.

https://www.si.com/college-football/201 ... dence-bowl ...

Easy fix - FCS games shouldn't count towards bowl eligibility, period.

[O Really]

Nor should a win against them be counted for national ranking. Of course, the small schools do benefit greatly financially for letting their teams be warm-up cannon fodder, so taking steps to discourage those games would hurt them more than the big schools.