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Vrede too wrote:
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Aderrien Murry: Mississippi boy, 11, shot by officer after calling police

:x 1312.

Fire him and lock him up.
That's what the boy's mom says. Me too.
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South Jersey cop gave man no commands before shooting him dead, state says in charging him

A Mantua police officer is charged with manslaughter in connection with the fatal shooting of a civilian who had called 911 for help.

A state grand jury indicted the officer, Salvatore Oldrati, on a charge of manslaughter, Attorney General Matthew Platkin said.
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But Mantua Police Chief Darren White criticized the announcement, saying Platkin's words were "designed to play on emotion and bias readers against the officer from the start.”
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In his statement, Platikin said, “When residents call 911 for service, they are concerned, they need assistance, they seek protection — and they trust the officers responding to their calls will respond accordingly and help them. Tragically, that did not happen here."

Oldrati shot Charles Sharp III, a 49-year-old Mantua resident, "by one of the very officers he had called upon for help," Platkin said....

He noted Sharp was still on his phone with a police dispatcher when he was shot....

Eicher said an investigation by his office found fewer than five seconds elapsed between when Oldrati stepped from his police vehicle and when he began shooting at Sharp....

During his 911 call, Sharp reported two burglars in his rear yard, one armed with a gun.

Sharp was standing in the front yard of his Elm Avenue home when officers arrived, the account said....

Sharp was a carpenter and 21-year veteran of the Air Force, according to an obituary.

It described the father of three as a 1991 graduate of Clearview Regional High School who loved reading, camping, fishing "and all animals." ...
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Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Jun 14, 2023 7:32 am
Why didn't he shoot?

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nat ... 316501007/
White perp.
Florida police officer relieved of duty after dispute with deputy over speeding

... Shaouni is facing charges of reckless driving, resisting an officer, and fleeing and eluding a law enforcement officer with their lights and sirens activated, according to the arrest report.

Departmental officials told CBS News in a statement that Shaouni had been "relieved of duty pending the Seminole County Sheriff's criminal investigation and OPD's Internal Affairs investigation."
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More than 4 years later! :roll:
Chicago police sergeant fired for role in botched raid where Black woman was handcuffed nude

A Chicago police sergeant has been fired for his role in a botched 2019 raid at the home of a Black woman who was handcuffed while naked after police officers were sent to the wrong address.

The Chicago Police Board voted 5-3 Thursday to fire Sgt. Alex Wolinski for multiple rules violations and “failure of leadership" in the raid at the apartment of Anjanette Young, according to a 31-page written ruling, the Chicago Sun-Times reported.

Young, a social worker, was getting ready for bed in February 2019 when several officers serving a no-knock warrant stormed into her apartment on Chicago's Near West Side searching for a man believed to have an illegal gun.

Police body-camera footage of the raid showed that officers handcuffed Young, who was naked when police arrived, as she repeatedly told them that they were in the wrong place....
White cop, of course.
Young later sued the city over the raid, resulting in the Chicago City Council voting unanimously in December 2021 to pay her $2.9 million to settle her lawsuit.

Young said in a statement released Friday by her attorneys that Wolinski's firing is “only a small piece of the Justice for which I have been waiting.”

“While my heart goes out to his family because they now suffer the consequences of his abhorrent misconduct, I wish all eight members of the Chicago Police Board would have recognized the need and urgency for Sergeant Wolinski’s removal,” she added.

Then-police Superintendent David Brown brought administrative charges against Wolinski in November 2021, recommending that he be fired.
More than 2 years after the raid, and still nothing happened.
... The Civilian Office of Police Accountability also called for Wolinski’s firing and for suspensions for several other officers present during the raid, although to date no other officers have faced Police Board charges for the raid, the Chicago Tribune reported....
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If cities wanted better policing, they could get it. Overall, it's a police culture thing that doesn't change overnight and likely requires a lot of replacing, but it's possible. Part of the problem, though, is that mayors and city council people need the police union support so they go along with a lot of "protective" stuff that ties their hands when they have to deal with one of the, ummmm, "bad apples." Then a lot if not most states have some version of a "Law Officers' Bill of Rights" that makes it really hard to do much to a dirty cop. Here's Florida's version: http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/ind ... 2.532.html

If the states passed and enforced a "Citizens' Protection from Police" bill that's anywhere close to comparable to the LOBR, it would help a lot.

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So many cops and cop unions are really just armed cults these days.

And most of us are stuck with the "can't live with them and can't live without them" paradox.
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And it's way too easy to frighten the citizenry with images of violent crime run rampant.

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Maybe not a lot, but going in the right direction:

https://www.courthousenews.com/californ ... y-defense/
LOS ANGELES (CN) — The California Supreme Court on Thursday reiterated the limits that state law sets for law enforcement to argue that they are immune from lawsuits over harm done when they are carrying out their job.

In an unanimous decision, the state's top court rejected the argument by Riverside County that its sheriff deputies couldn't be held liable for the emotional distress of the wife of a man who had been left lying in plain sight with his genitals exposed for almost eight hours after he had been fatally shot.

The particular provision of the California Government Claims Act that the county relied on, and which both the trial court and the court of appeals had agreed shielded the deputies from liability, pertained to claims for wrongful prosecution only and couldn't be extended to cover all official police conduct, the court said, such as investigating a crime.

"While other provisions of the Government Claims Act may confer immunity for certain investigatory actions, section 821.6 does not broadly immunize police officers or other public employees for any and all harmful actions they may take in the course of investigating crime," Associate Justice Leondra Kruger wrote in reversing the lower courts' decisions.

Although the limits of this section of state law had been articulated by the California Supreme Court as far back as 1974, a series of intermediate decisions by state appellate courts have relied on broader interpretations of 821.6 to throw out misconduct lawsuits against law enforcement that didn't pertain to actual prosecutions.

Thursday's decision won't necessary open the floodgates for new litigation because, as the court pointed out, there are other defenses still available to win dismissal of police misconduct claims, said Richard Antognini, the attorney for Dora Leon who argued the case before California Supreme Court.

"It's not going to change the landscape," Antognini said. "But it will make some of these lawsuits easier to bring and to prosecute."

Dora Leon sued after her husband, José Leon, was fatally shot in 2017 by a neighbor in the Cherry Valley mobile home park where they lived. When the first deputies arrived shortly after the shooting, new shots rang out nearby and the deputies dragged José's lifeless body behind their SUV, causing his pants to fall down and exposing his genitals. He was left lying like that until the evening as law enforcement evacuated the park and investigated the shooting.

A trial court judge and the appellate court agreed that Dora couldn't sue for negligence and emotional distress over the deputies' failure to cover up her husband's body because, they said, all this occurred during the course of the deputies’ official investigation of the shooting.

However, one of the judges on the appellate panel two years ago, Associate Justice Michael Raphael, while concurring in the dismissal of Dora Leon's lawsuit, wrote a separate opinion to point out how California's court of appeals have been interpreting the law differently from the state's supreme court.

Raphael noted in particular that the federal courts have interpreted the California statute along the lines of the 1974 California Supreme Court decision, limiting immunity under 821.6 to wrongful prosecution claims, which meant that state courts and federal courts in California used different standards for deciding police misconduct claims under the same state law.

"If the negligence claim in this case were adjudicated in our federal district court, it appears that section 821.6 would permit it," Raphael noted.

Raphael's observations teed-up the trip to the California Supreme Court to clarify the limits of the immunity defense under this section of state law, Antognini said.

Lawyers representing Riverside County didn't immediately respond to a request for comment on the ruling.

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Wow - that's quick action. Wonder why it takes so long to do something about cops who shoot/beat unarmed black guys.

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/new ... 349181007/
Deputy Chad Walker of the Buncombe County Sheriff’s Office was arrested June 22 and charged with solicitation of a prostitute by the Asheville Police Department and fired from the Sheriff’s Office effective immediately, Sheriff’s spokesperson Aaron Sarver said in a news release June 22.
According to Sarver, Walker solicited a prostitute the afternoon of June 22, which led to his arrest. The Sheriff's Office became aware of the situation shortly after Walker's arrest.
Walker must be one hated asshole to get his "thin blue line" broken so quickly and badly.

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Wow - that's quick action. Wonder why it takes so long to do something about cops who shoot/beat unarmed black guys.

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/new ... 349181007/
Deputy Chad Walker of the Buncombe County Sheriff’s Office was arrested June 22 and charged with solicitation of a prostitute by the Asheville Police Department and fired from the Sheriff’s Office effective immediately, Sheriff’s spokesperson Aaron Sarver said in a news release June 22.
According to Sarver, Walker solicited a prostitute the afternoon of June 22, which led to his arrest. The Sheriff's Office became aware of the situation shortly after Walker's arrest.
Walker must be one hated asshole to get his "thin blue line" broken so quickly and badly.
When it comes to cop no-nos it must be hos before bros.

Maybe everyone is mad because he didn't coerce a female arrestee like normal cops do.
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Florida Cops Reportedly Jailed 3-Year-Old Over Potty Training Problems
A Florida police officer reportedly said his son vowed to "never again poop his pants" after being handcuffed and placed in jail in October.


... The department launched an internal investigation of the two, but findings have not been released. It remains unclear whether the city has or will discipline the officers....
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Florida Cops Reportedly Jailed 3-Year-Old Over Potty Training Problems
A Florida police officer reportedly said his son vowed to "never again poop his pants" after being handcuffed and placed in jail in October.


... The department launched an internal investigation of the two, but findings have not been released. It remains unclear whether the city has or will discipline the officers....
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What a pig. I hope his kids recover enough to hate him.

"Schoenbrod said he’d also put his other child in jail. He told the caseworker that he did something similar with his then-4-year-old son after he hit a girl and was “misbehaving” at preschool, the News-Journal reported.

“He was crying and everything, and to this day, if you mention, like, that incident, he’s just like, ‘I would never do that again.’ It was effective,” Schoenbrod said."

Wouldn't cutting his hand off been equally effective?
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Part of the problem is that LEOs are dumb and/or poorly educated.
Texas Police Fined A Puerto Rican Man After Wrongly Claiming He Lacked A Valid Driver's License

...
OK. But we’re not in Puerto Rico, are we? [...] I’m not saying it’s not a real license in Puerto Rico. But there’s no way for me to even verify if this is a real license, because we’re not in Puerto Rico [...] Alright. If you want to argue, sir, you can argue in court.
The officer seemed to be suggesting that Alvelo’s license was unverifiable despite the license being, again, REAL ID-compliant. The subtext there being, this is a “Mickey Mouse” license but you’re getting a very real citation for it....
:roll: Too full of himself to just ask a supervisor.
The unlicensed driving citation has now been dropped, but this is just the latest case of mistaken national identity involving a Puerto Rican in the American South. This comes after a similar case in which a Hertz employee turned away a person from Puerto Rico for lacking “proper documentation.” In this prior case, a Louisiana police officer even threatened to call Border Patrol on the Puerto Rican man, who is, after all, a U.S. citizen.
That would have been a hilarious call between the cop and Border Patrol.
California man paralyzed from run-in with police gets $20 million settlement

A Northern California man who was left paralyzed after he was slammed to the ground during a traffic stop won a $20 million settlement, one of the largest in the state's history, officials announced Tuesday.

Gregory Gross, an Army veteran who lives in Yuba City, sued the police department in 2022 after police officers used “pain compliance” techniques and expressed disbelief when he repeatedly cried out, “I can’t feel my legs." Police officers also dismissed Gross when he said, “I can't breathe," while being held facedown on the lawn outside a hospital, video released by Gross's lawyers shows.

Gross was accused of driving drunk and causing a slow-speed collision in April 2020.

Gross was left with a broken neck, and he underwent two surgeries to fuse his spine. He said the officers' use of force left him unable to walk or care for himself, and he now needs round-the-clock nursing care for the rest of his life.

“We are not against the police,” said Attorney Moseley Collins, who represents Gross. “We are for the police, but we are against police brutality when it occurs.”

The settlement is among one of the largest police misconduct settlements in California history. In May, the state agreed to pay $24 million to the family of a man who died in police custody after screaming, “I can’t breathe,” as multiple officers restrained him while trying to take a blood sample.
1312. How do localities and their insurers keep eating these judgements?
As part of the settlement, Yuba City will also start randomly auditing officers' bodycam footage and reviewing use of force incidents, police Chief Brian Baker said. He apologized to Gross at a news conference Tuesday....
:roll: Things they should have been doing all along.
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Trump Cheered His Killing As ‘Retribution,’ Now His Family Is Suing in Court

When far-left activist Michael Reinoehl was shot dead by law enforcement in a hail of bullets in September 2020, then-president Donald Trump infamously cheered his death as “retribution,” and Attorney General Bill Barr touted the killing as the “takedown” of an “admitted Antifa member.”

Reinoehl’s estate is now suing in federal court, alleging that the 48-year-old father of two was killed in a “sudden and unprovoked attack” and that the law enforcement officers responsible for Reinoehl’s death “either had no plan to arrest [him] without injury… or planned to use deadly force from the start.”

The lawsuit, filed Tuesday, contends that law enforcement “did not afford Reinoehl an opportunity to surrender”; failed to observe a “standard of care for high-risk law enforcement operations”; and neglected to provide any “warning or announcement that they were police.” ...
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Woman Says Drive-Thru Worker Was 'Disgusted' When She Didn't Pay For Another Customer's Order

... “Guys I just had the weirdest encounter in the McDonald’s drive-thru,” Samantha said in the 37-second clip she posted July 7th, 2023. “So I pull up to pay, and then, as the lady is still holding my card, she goes ‘just letting you know that there’s a cop behind you.’”

Confused as to why that might’ve been any concern to her, Samantha simply said, “Oh, okay?” before the drive-thru worker continued their encounter by asking “Do you want to pay it forward?”

... “I was like ‘no, no,’” she explained, expressing with her face that she was completely uninterested in paying for the police officer’s meal. As she posted in the caption, “My total was $2.19 like brooo.” But the worker didn’t seem to take too kindly to her reaction.

“She goes ‘oh,’ and she looked really disgusted, and she’s like ‘[it’s just that] a lot of people do that around here for cops,’” Samantha explained, adding that she responded by saying, “Honey, in this car, the blood type is ACAB+.” The worker looked even more disgusted....
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:24 am
So many cops and cop unions are really just armed cults these days.

And most of us are stuck with the "can't live with them and can't live without them" paradox.
O Really wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:49 am
And it's way too easy to frighten the citizenry with images of violent crime run rampant.
Cops are the scary rampant criminals:
Judge rules Kansas Highway Patrol ‘waged war on motorists,’ violated constitutional rights

The Kansas Highway Patrol “has waged war on motorists,” a federal judge wrote in a scathing ruling against the agency’s practice of extending car stops in hopes of discovering drugs.

In the order filed Friday, U.S. District Judge Kathryn H. Vratil wrote that patrol’s tactics in traffic stops violated the Constitution.

The practice, called the “Kansas two step,” is a maneuver in which troopers at the end of a traffic stop take a couple of steps toward their patrol car before turning around to initiate a voluntary interaction with the driver.

The strategy would buy the patrol extra time to probe for incriminating information or get a drug-sniffing dog to a location.
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“As wars go, this one is relatively easy,” Vratil wrote. “It’s simple and cheap, and for motorists, it’s not a fair fight. The war is basically a question of numbers: stop enough cars and you’re bound to discover drugs. And what’s the harm if a few constitutional rights are trampled along the way?”

... She also concluded that a few seconds of disengagement was not sufficient “for reasonable drivers to feel free to leave.”
Hero. :-||
Earlier this year two juries found that individual troopers employing the strategy had violated constitutional rights. This is the first ruling to hold the agency itself, specifically former Superintendent Herman Jones, culpable for the practice.

Testifying in this case in May, Jones said the two troopers who were found to have violated rates had not yet faced discipline. He could not recall whether the trooper’s supervisors had been disciplined....
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U.S. District Judge Kathryn H. Vratil was appointed by George H. W. Bush.
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Sat Jun 24, 2023 1:09 pm
Wow - that's quick action. Wonder why it takes so long to do something about cops who shoot/beat unarmed black guys.

https://www.citizen-times.com/story/new ... 349181007/


Walker must be one hated asshole to get his "thin blue line" broken so quickly and badly.
For example - Yuck, this is horrible from start to finish:

(6 White) Ex-Mississippi officers plead guilty to racist assault on 2 Black men during raid

5 months plus. Action finally taken when the feds stepped in, and that was only after an Associated Press investigation. We know that real asshole LEOs have been busted when they don't even force trials.

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5 months plus. Action finally taken when the feds stepped in, and that was only after an Associated Press investigation. We know that real asshole LEOs have been busted when they don't even force trials.

Lock them up, and throw away the key!
Fucking cops.
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Sat Jul 22, 2023 11:05 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 10:24 am
So many cops and cop unions are really just armed cults these days.

And most of us are stuck with the "can't live with them and can't live without them" paradox.
O Really wrote:
Sun Jun 18, 2023 11:49 am
And it's way too easy to frighten the citizenry with images of violent crime run rampant.
Cops are the scary rampant criminals:
Judge rules Kansas Highway Patrol ‘waged war on motorists,’ violated constitutional rights

The Kansas Highway Patrol “has waged war on motorists,” a federal judge wrote in a scathing ruling against the agency’s practice of extending car stops in hopes of discovering drugs.

In the order filed Friday, U.S. District Judge Kathryn H. Vratil wrote that patrol’s tactics in traffic stops violated the Constitution.

The practice, called the “Kansas two step,” is a maneuver in which troopers at the end of a traffic stop take a couple of steps toward their patrol car before turning around to initiate a voluntary interaction with the driver.

The strategy would buy the patrol extra time to probe for incriminating information or get a drug-sniffing dog to a location.
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“As wars go, this one is relatively easy,” Vratil wrote. “It’s simple and cheap, and for motorists, it’s not a fair fight. The war is basically a question of numbers: stop enough cars and you’re bound to discover drugs. And what’s the harm if a few constitutional rights are trampled along the way?”

... She also concluded that a few seconds of disengagement was not sufficient “for reasonable drivers to feel free to leave.”
Hero. :-||
Earlier this year two juries found that individual troopers employing the strategy had violated constitutional rights. This is the first ruling to hold the agency itself, specifically former Superintendent Herman Jones, culpable for the practice.

Testifying in this case in May, Jones said the two troopers who were found to have violated rates had not yet faced discipline. He could not recall whether the trooper’s supervisors had been disciplined....
:roll:

U.S. District Judge Kathryn H. Vratil was appointed by George H. W. Bush.
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Close by in Nebraska
Here's the gist, but there's more in the article

"Georgia fired a state trooper for his conduct. Now he leads Seward County’s Homeland Security task force
Seward Sheriff says the former trooper, who argues he was wrongfully fired in Georgia, will stay in his Nebraska job as his legal battle continues."

https://www.klkntv.com/georgia-fired-a- ... ask-force/

"The Seward County Homeland Security task force, sometimes using the controversial practice of civil asset forfeiture, seized $11.8 million from Interstate 80 drivers through civil and criminal forfeiture in its first 32 months.

The Seward-based head of that law enforcement task force trains and supervises officers – despite being barred from becoming a Nebraska police officer himself.

Blake Swicord was fired as a state trooper in Georgia after selling guns to a pardoned felon and allegedly sending sexually explicit texts and photos from his police-issued phone. He claims he was wrongfully terminated."

Swicord then was arrested on suspicion of battery following an alleged domestic violence incident with his then-girlfriend."

"The Police Standards Advisory Council – the board that oversees law enforcement certification in Nebraska – has acknowledged Swicord’s qualifications. It has also ruled twice that he can’t go through training to become a Nebraska police officer.

“When the petitioner came to Nebraska looking for a fresh start, he failed to demonstrate the necessary good character qualities demanded of any Nebraska officer,” the council wrote in its 2019 decision. “His actions in the application process demonstrate to this body that the petitioner cannot be considered to be a person who can be characterized as being truthful, honest or trustworthy.”'

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri Aug 04, 2023 4:29 pm
Close by in Nebraska
Here's the gist, but there's more in the article

"Georgia fired a state trooper for his conduct. Now he leads Seward County’s Homeland Security task force
Seward Sheriff says the former trooper, who argues he was wrongfully fired in Georgia, will stay in his Nebraska job as his legal battle continues."

https://www.klkntv.com/georgia-fired-a- ... ask-force/

Mississippi 'goon squad' officers are part of larger law enforcement problem, experts say
Experts say rogue groups like the so-called Mississippi goon squad have long been a problem in the U.S.


Tragic article.

Are they really "rogue" when they are created, tolerated, defended, and covered up by their PDs? 1312.
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