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Republican Congresswoman Says Porn Is a Cause of School Shootings

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To be fair, porn-assisted "shootings" did help me make it through my teens, but none of them were at school.

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If that was the case I would have started WWIII by now.

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Lots of useful data and graphs:

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Greatest country in the world😥

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GoCubsGo wrote:
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Greatest country in the world😥
Sigh, good one.

Paraphrased: We're #1 in prisoners, belief in angels and military spending.

Also guns, I'm pretty sure. This was off to the side of your clip:



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Yeah, I'm a little surprised that wasn't part of the original...
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Yeah, I'm a little surprised that wasn't part of the original...
I had second thoughts and wondered if I might have to qualify the statement and say that we're #1 in guns among developed, non-war zone countries, but no, we're #1 period.

Estimated number of guns per capita by country

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Petition update
We're Not Done...


Jun 8, 2018 — We've waited and waited and waited for Amazon to take action. But the company and its intransigent Scrooge McDuck of a CEO refuse to stop promoting the sale of guns. Apparently partnering with gun companies matters more than you do as a customer.

The debate over gun violence has gone nowhere and school shootings continue without any end in sight. But the vast majority of responsible gun owners don't support the NRA (less than 10%!). The NRA is just about selling more guns. And Amazon knows it. We won't rest until Amazon does the right thing and stops promoting NRA TV. It's one very small step in the fight to end gun violence, but that's what's needed right now. Incremental progress that eventually leads to bigger change.

Do you live near Amazon's home base of Seattle? If so, we'd love to hear from you because our next big step will be offline and we need your help for an important event.

And did you actually follow through and cancel your Amazon Prime subscription? If so, we'd love to get a screenshot or letter saying you've done so. If you haven't, don't forget to do so.

This isn't political, it's about taking one small and actionable step in this incredibly complex and difficult issue. Please email info@screwbothparties.com if you can help out with an event in Seattle and/or want to share your story about cancelling Amazon.

P.S. Never stop tweeting about this... https://twitter.com/intent/tweet?text=H ... weetjb=258

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The Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (aka ATF) is again receiving comments on bump stocks. The new comment deadline is Wednesday, June 27. Simply click here to comment.

Please take a moment to comment today. The other side has been flooding ATF with comments against the proposed regulation and we need to show public support for it.

--Becky

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On the night of October 1, 2017, a gunman opened fire from a hotel room on the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel into the 22,000 person crowd at the Route 91 Harvest country music festival in Las Vegas, Nevada, killing 58 people and injuring more than 500. The gunman fired more than 1,100 rounds of ammunition in 11 minutes, using semi-automatic rifles modified with dangerous firearm accessories designed to dramatically accelerate the rate of gunfire, commonly known as “bump fire stocks.” These devices are intended to circumvent the restrictions on possession of fully automatic firearms in the Gun Control Act of 1968 and the National Firearms Act of 1934 by allowing an individual to modify a semiautomatic rifle in such a manner that it operates with a similar rate of fire as a fully automatic rifle, posing a substantial risk to public safety.

In the absence of immediate action by Congress, I urge ATF to finalize its proposed rule clarifying that bump fire stocks, along with other “conversion devices” that enable semiautomatic weapons to mimic automatic fire, qualify as “machine guns” under the National Firearms Act. And then Congress must act as well—to ensure that manufacturers cannot continue to endanger public safety by designing devices that imitate machine guns and subvert the law. The continued presence of these dangerous devices puts all of our communities at risk, and both Congress and ATF must take action quickly to address this threat.



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NBC: With Annapolis today - 195 mass shootings in 2018's 177 days. Not sure which definition of 'mass shootings" they're using, but still . . .

MSNBC is wondering if this was an attack on "the media" due to the climate of hostility to it. My guess is that it will be something more specific than that. If one hates "the media" there are lots of better targets in the DC area than an Annapolis rag. We'll see.

Interesting, maybe just coincidental - Annapolis had a large scale active shooter drill a few days ago, the Capital Gazette covered it with pics on page 1.

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Lady O and I are in MD, so we're getting the local news. Shooter is a loon of some sort, my guess one of the "sovereign state" people. He had "damaged" his finger tips to avoid fingerprinting, and is refusing to give out any information, including name, whatever.

White male in his 20's.

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Prior to departing Wisconsin, I was briefed on the shooting at Capital Gazette in Annapolis, Maryland. My thoughts and prayers are with the victims and their families. Thank you to all of the First Responders who are currently on the scene
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O Really wrote:
Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:35 pm
Lady O and I are in MD, so we're getting the local news. Shooter is a loon of some sort, my guess one of the "sovereign state" people. He had "damaged" his finger tips to avoid fingerprinting, and is refusing to give out any information, including name, whatever.

White male in his 20's.
“I can’t wait for the vigilante squads to start gunning journalists down on sight.”
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Thu Jun 28, 2018 6:35 pm
Lady O and I are in MD, so we're getting the local news. Shooter is a loon of some sort, my guess one of the "sovereign state" people. He had "damaged" his finger tips to avoid fingerprinting, and is refusing to give out any information, including name, whatever.

White male in his 20's.
Updated: they've found who he is through facial recognition but haven't released his name. Age changed to late 30's. Even more likely to be off the rails.

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NBC: With Annapolis today - 195 mass shootings in 2018's 177 days. Not sure which definition of 'mass shootings" they're using, but still . . .

MSNBC is wondering if this was an attack on "the media" due to the climate of hostility to it. My guess is that it will be something more specific than that. If one hates "the media" there are lots of better targets in the DC area than an Annapolis rag. We'll see.

Interesting, maybe just coincidental - Annapolis had a large scale active shooter drill a few days ago, the Capital Gazette covered it with pics on page 1.
Yep, long term grudge against the newspaper, not sure if we'll ever know if that was exacerbated by the national anti-media climate.
Suspect in Maryland newspaper to appear on 5 murder charges

... Those killed included Rob Hiaasen, 59, the paper's assistant managing editor and brother of novelist Carl Hiaasen. Carl Hiaasen said he was "devastated and heartsick" at losing his brother, "one of the most gentle and funny people I've ever known."
That sucks, I like Carl Hiaasen.
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Lady O and I are in MD, so we're getting the local news. Shooter is a loon of some sort, my guess one of the "sovereign state" people. He had "damaged" his finger tips to avoid fingerprinting, and is refusing to give out any information, including name, whatever....
Turns out it was a problem with the fingerprint machine. I skimmed his Twitter feed, saw one 2015 mention of Trump, but otherwise directed hate for the paper and local government without a real political stance that I could tell. There may be more out there about that aspect already.

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“I’m happy frankly to see them (journalists) curb-stomped. I mean let's be real about it. These people are just the worst thing that could ever possibly happen to the American political system right now with the way that they cover so many things. Nobody gets a fair shake on policy, no one gets a fair shake where it concerns immigration. They conflate illegal and legal immigration.

“They conflate a number of things – particularly the coverage on gun control. I have so many things that I hate about mainstream media, there is no way we are going to fit it in the allotted time today. They are the rat bastards of the earth. They are the boil on the backside of American politics.”


-- co-founder of the St Louis Tea Party and current NRA spokeswoman Dana Loesch, 2016
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Mon Feb 26, 2018 4:06 pm
On Mon, February 26, 2018 4:58 am, NCGV wrote:

> When the N.C. General Assembly returns in May, lawmakers are expected to
> allow 18 year-olds with no training and no background checks to carry
> hidden loaded weapons in public. This is dangerous and unacceptable.
>
> HB 746 <https://www.ncleg.net/Sessions/2017/Bil ... H746v3.pdf>
> has already passed the House and Senate consideration in the next step.
> We need you to contact state senators Alexander, Barringer and Tarte and
> ask them to stop this bill.
>
> The public is behind our opposition to permitless carry. Only 10% of
> Democrats and 30% of Republicans support the gun policy proposal of
> allowing concealed carry without a permit.
>
> Please call and/or write these senators and share with them why HB 746 is
> a dangerous bill and that you urge them to oppose it. Contact information
> is below:
>
> - Senator John Alexander – 919.733.5850, John.Alexander@ncleg.net
> - Senator Tamara Barringer - 919.733.5653, Tamara.Barringer@ncleg.net
> - Senator Jeff Tarte - 919-715-3050, jeff.tarte@ncleg.net
>
> Here is a sample message:
>
> Hi, my name is _____. I am calling to urge the senator to work to make
> sure that HB 746 is not brought up for a vote in the senate. I feel
> strongly that 18 year-olds with no training or background check should not
> be able to carry a hidden loaded weapon in public. This is a dangerous
> idea. Please get in touch with me to tell me your position on HB 746 –
> (contact information)
>
> As always, thank you for taking this simple but important action. You are
> the ones that are protecting North Carolinians from gun violence.
>
> Thank you,
> Becky
>
> NCGV
> http://www.ncgv.org/
> NCGV - P.O. Box 51565, Durham, NC 27717, United States

Becky Ceartas
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Dear Sens. Edwards (mine), Alexander, Barringer and Tarte, and Rep. McGrady (mine),

HB 746 is a dangerous bill, allowing 18 year-olds with no training and no
background checks to carry hidden loaded weapons in public is
unacceptable.

Only 10% of Democrats and 30% of Republicans support the gun policy
proposal of allowing concealed carry without a permit.

Even President Trump wants to raise the purchase age to 21.

Please get in touch with me to tell me your position on HB 746.

Sincerely,
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On Mon, February 26, 2018 9:29 am, Rep. Chuck McGrady wrote:

> Chuck: Since you only copied me on you message to others, I guess you
> know my position on the bill. I voted “no” on the bill. Hopefully, the
> Senate will just not take it up.

I remember that and thank you. Just wanted you to know what I'm writing
the Senate about in case it comes back for reconciliation.

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The General Assembly began its 2018 short session on May 16th, and within six weeks business had concluded. During this fast-paced stretch, legislators quickly moved a variety of bills, including placing six constitutional amendments on the November ballot.

On Friday June 29th, legislators wrapped up their short session business in Raleigh ...

As reported in previous updates, NCGV was on the lookout for the Senate to taking up HB746, the gun omnibus bill that included permitless carry. If this bill would have passed it would mean that people as young as 18 years old with no training and no background check could carry a hidden loaded weapon in public. Because of NCGV pressure and support, the Senate did not consider the bill. We are proud to report that your support made sure that this bill did not even receive a committee hearing on the Senate side....

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House GOP appropriators block funding for gun violence research

:roll: The NRA, other ammosexuals and their congressional lapdogs sure are pansies.

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Unwitting GOP lawmakers endorse arming young children on Sacha Baron Cohen's new show

In excerpts from Sacha Baron Cohen’s new Showtime series, Rep. Joe Wilson, a South Carolina Republican, and other prominent conservatives endorse the idea of arming young schoolchildren with guns....

“A three-year-old cannot defend itself from an assault rifle by throwing a Hello Kitty pencil case at it,” Wilson says on why he approves of the plan. “Our Founding Fathers did not put an age limit on the Second Amendment.” ...

Former congressman Joe Walsh of Illinois, now a conservative radio host, praised the "kinderguardians" program, which he said "introduces specially selected children, from four to 12--years-old, to pistols, rifles, semi-automatics, and a rudimentary knowledge of mortars."

"In less than a month, a first grader can become a first grenadier," Walsh declares.

Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, was even more unequivocal in his support for outfitting schoolchildren with weapons.

"Toddlers are pure, uncorrupted by fake news or homosexuality. They don't care if it's politically correct to shoot a mentally deranged gunman. They'll just do it," he told Baron Cohen....

In one teaser, Baron Cohen provides former Vice President Dick Cheney with a plastic jug and asks him to “sign my waterboard kit.” Cheney cheerfully agrees, remarking, “that’s the first time I’ve ever signed a waterboard.”
https://twitter.com/SachaBaronCohen/sta ... 3099997184

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Philip Van Cleave and Larry Pratt are real gunhugger leaders, not caricatures.


(“Kinder-Guardians”) Who Is America? (2018) | First Look | Sacha Baron Cohen SHOWTIME Series

Hilarious, tragic and depressing throughout, but the pols come in at 8:00.

Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) - was not trapped, but inadvertently made the others look even worse.
Former Sen. Trent Lott (R-MS)
Rep. Dana Rohrabacher (R-CA)
Rep. Joe Wilson (R-SC)
Former Rep. Joe Walsh (R-IL) - “mortars”!!! :D
Larry Pratt, again - “Blink 182 … Wiz Khalifa”!!! :lol:

In comparison, look who is NOT stupid:


Sacha Baron Cohen interviews Bernie Sanders WHO IS AMERICA

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