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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:25 pm
How did they measure evil. Smoking tobacco, smoking pot, drinking too much, drinking moderately, idk, way to many variables for a list.
Agreed. Hence, I posted to the thread where we mostly mock religion. Plus:
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Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:25 pm
Kinda like those lists that prove liberals don't give as much to charities as the cons - then you find out that they counted as donations to charity the billions the cons gave churches to build their extravagant buildings and homes and fly around in their jet airplanes.
It's bs
They also count donations to schools that mostly only the elite attend and to cultural activities like opera that mostly only the elite enjoy.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 2:52 pm
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Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:51 pm

I might quibble over there factors considered "sin" though.
You would, given your strong connection to 5 of the 20 "Most Sinful" states, 6 if we count #7 Pennsylvania. Repent! :P

Well, except for Vermont, none of the bottom states are livable. What do those "non-sinners" do all winter anyway?

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:25 pm
How did they measure evil. Smoking tobacco, smoking pot, drinking too much, drinking moderately, idk, way to many variables for a list.
Kinda like those lists that prove liberals don't give as much to charities as the cons - then you find out that they counted as donations to charity the billions the cons gave churches to build their extravagant buildings and homes and fly around in their jet airplanes.
It's bs
Your post sort of puzzled me. In that I couldn't quite figure out how donating billions to churches enabled the donors to live the high life.

However I did find this article, which looks at the CEO's of charitable organizations, and their salaries. These seem to range from $900k to nearly $6 million per year. Not too shabby!

15 Highest Paid Nonprofit CEOs In 2022
Some jobs earn you more than you could imagine possible, and one of such would be working as one of the highest paid nonprofit CEOs.

This position offers you things and privileges that are not the normal offerings available to others in similar positions except for that which is available in tech companies.

...

While the highest-paid nonprofit CEOs work in the healthcare and financial sectors, ordinary organizations are more fascinating.

Although a wide range of organizations compensates its leadership handsomely, the highest-paid charity CEOs tend to be a mix of arts groups, museums, and research institutes.
Having been a volunteer worker for about five years for an organization that billed itself as a charity, I am not particularly surprised by this, although I wasn't aware of the actual renumeration these people got.

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Ulysses wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:01 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:25 pm
How did they measure evil. Smoking tobacco, smoking pot, drinking too much, drinking moderately, idk, way to many variables for a list.
Kinda like those lists that prove liberals don't give as much to charities as the cons - then you find out that they counted as donations to charity the billions the cons gave churches to build their extravagant buildings and homes and fly around in their jet airplanes.
It's bs
Your post sort of puzzled me. In that I couldn't quite figure out how donating billions to churches enabled the donors to live the high life....
You fail comprehension, again. billy.pilgrim is saying that the donations enable the church leaders, not the donors, to live the high life. You puzzle easily.

That said, charitable tax deductions do greatly benefit the donors, though they aren't the main source of their wealth. Also, corporate donations are often used as a form of advertising, thus diminishing their apparent altruism.
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O Really wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 1:51 pm

I might quibble over there factors considered "sin" though.
You would, given your strong connection to 5 of the 20 "Most Sinful" states, 6 if we count #7 Pennsylvania. Repent! :P

Well, except for Vermont, none of the bottom states are livable. What do those "non-sinners" do all winter anyway?
Mostly they think about sin. Some, if not most, sin vicariously through others and miraculously avoid any tinge of guilt. You can spot these fringe sinners by the way they display a perpetual grin which is actually a grimace of torment since they know they themselves are just as guilty.

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Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:57 pm
Well, except for Vermont, none of the bottom states are livable. What do those "non-sinners" do all winter anyway?
:D
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Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:10 pm
Mostly they think about sin. Some, if not most, sin vicariously through others and miraculously avoid any tinge of guilt. You can spot these fringe sinners by the way they display a perpetual grin which is actually a grimace of torment since they know they themselves are just as guilty.
:lol:

https://wallethub.com/edu/most-sinful-states/46852
40 Connecticut - Agreed, not livable. ;)
42 Utah, 44 Minnesota, 49 Wyoming and even 50 Idaho are very livable, but sometimes their people suck.
45 New Hampshire might be similar to 48 Vermont, but I'm not sure.
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Neither California nor Nevada made the top five in more than one of the listed sins - Nevada was #5 for gambling (duh) and California has too many beauty shops per capita. And yet they're #'s 1 & 2 most "sinful"? Something smells like like a used mullet after a Flora Bama toss.

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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 3:57 pm
Well, except for Vermont, none of the bottom states are livable. What do those "non-sinners" do all winter anyway?
:D
Church, Klan and online porn.
neoplacebo wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:10 pm
Mostly they think about sin. Some, if not most, sin vicariously through others and miraculously avoid any tinge of guilt. You can spot these fringe sinners by the way they display a perpetual grin which is actually a grimace of torment since they know they themselves are just as guilty.
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https://wallethub.com/edu/most-sinful-states/46852
40 Connecticut - Agreed, not livable. ;)
42 Utah, 44 Minnesota, 49 Wyoming and even 50 Idaho are very livable, but sometimes their people suck.
45 New Hampshire might be similar to 48 Vermont, but I'm not sure.
Nope. They're all disqualified by either weather or politics. Maybe Minnesota gets by with their "nice" but otherwise...
New Hampshire isn't anything much like Vermont. South of Concord, it's Boston. North of Concord it's woods.

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Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:30 pm
Neither California nor Nevada made the top five in more than one of the listed sins - Nevada was #5 for gambling (duh) and California has too many beauty shops per capita. And yet they're #'s 1 & 2 most "sinful"? Something smells like like a used mullet after a Flora Bama toss.
You seem defensive :P . I support counting beauty shops towards sin ;) . Definitely Pride, and closely associated with Lust and Envy.
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O Really wrote:
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Neither California nor Nevada made the top five in more than one of the listed sins - Nevada was #5 for gambling (duh) and California has too many beauty shops per capita. And yet they're #'s 1 & 2 most "sinful"? Something smells like like a used mullet after a Flora Bama toss.
You seem defensive :P . I support counting beauty shops towards sin ;) . Definitely Pride, and closely associated with Lust and Envy.
Oh, I'm happy to be part of a "sinful" area, using their criteria. And sure, beauty shops can be an indicator of all those. But I'd say the same thing if we were on the bottom but didn't finish in the bottom five but once. Bottom line, being middle of the pack in ALL the categories seems to get you to the top of the list overall.

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O Really wrote:
Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:30 pm
Neither California nor Nevada made the top five in more than one of the listed sins - Nevada was #5 for gambling (duh) and California has too many beauty shops per capita. And yet they're #'s 1 & 2 most "sinful"? Something smells like like a used mullet after a Flora Bama toss.
To paraphrase a moron, this list of most sinful states looks like it was, you guessed it, rigged...

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Mon Mar 07, 2022 4:50 pm
Oh, I'm happy to be part of a "sinful" area, using their criteria. And sure, beauty shops can be an indicator of all those. But I'd say the same thing if we were on the bottom but didn't finish in the bottom five but once. Bottom line, being middle of the pack in ALL the categories seems to get you to the top of the list overall.
I agree that consistent mediocrity is sinful. :wave:
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I had forgotten that Tammy Faye Bakker was an early ally of AIDS activists and the queer community in general.

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He fish slapped ("fish smote" would be the contemporaneous term) multitudes and then got them drunk on water he turned into wine. I think that's when they came up with that "suffer the little children to come unto me" line. After that it was everybody for himself.

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He fish slapped ("fish smote" would be the contemporaneous term) multitudes and then got them drunk on water he turned into wine. I think that's when they came up with that "suffer the little children to come unto me" line. After that it was everybody for himself.
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... Arguing that the flags "embody specific agendas and ideologies (that) contradict Catholic social and moral teaching," Bishop Robert McManus of the Diocese of Worcester issued a decree on Thursday punishing the Nativity School of Worcester, a tuition-free private middle school that serves about 60 boys from under-resourced communities.

The decree prohibits the school from calling itself Catholic and prevents Mass and sacraments from taking place on school grounds....
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McManus has a history of bigotry, drunken hit and run and covering up sexual abuse. Great "social and moral" role model. :roll:
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The concept of original sin has been misinterpreted from the outset; the operative, and correct, term is "original skin." It makes us all born skinners. And let those without skin suffer massive infection and die. ok

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Utah's governor asks Utahns to join him in a weekend if prayer to help ease the drought:



It's really obnoxious and annoying, and slightly frightening, when leaders legitimately believe asking their emotional support ghost for help is a valid solution to problems we're facing. I guess I have trouble fathoming something so stupid and pointless.
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Whack9 wrote:
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Utah's governor asks Utahns to join him in a weekend if prayer to help ease the drought:

It's really obnoxious and annoying, and slightly frightening, when leaders legitimately believe asking their emotional support ghost for help is a valid solution to problems we're facing. I guess I have trouble fathoming something so stupid and pointless.
:thumbup: It would be more effective if he invited most Utahns to join him in Wyoming for collective and humble prayer, then didn't let them back. :evil:
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