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Happy Juneteenth, y'all.
As the nation celebrates Juneteenth, it’s time to get rid of these three myths about slavery

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Temple “Tempie” Cummins stoically stares at the camera with her arms folded in her lap, sitting stiffly in a chair in her dusty, barren backyard with her weather-beaten wooden shack behind her. Her dark, creased face reflects years of poverty and worry.

The faded black and white image of Cummins from 1937 was snapped by a historian who stopped by her home in Jasper, Texas, to ask her about her childhood during slavery. Cummins, who did not know her exact age, shared stories of uninterrupted woe until she recounted how she and her mother discovered that they had been freed.

She said her mother, a cook for their former slave owner’s family, liked to hide in the chimney corner to eavesdrop on dinner conversations. One day in 1865, she overheard her owner say that slavery had ended, but he wasn’t going to let his slaves know until they harvested “another crop or two.”

“When mother heard that she say she slip out the chimney corner and crack her heels together four times and shouts, ‘I’s free, I’s free,’ ” Cummins told the historian, who recorded her story for a New Deal writers’ project that collected the narratives of the formerly enslaved during the Great Depression. “Then she runs to the field, ‘gainst marster’s will and tol’ all the other slaves and they quit work.” ...
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Happy Juneteenth, y'all.

At least 23 shot, 1 fatally, during a Juneteenth celebration near Chicago
Shooting at Asheville Juneteenth Festival cancels 2nd day at Pack Square; suspect charged

A shooting June 17 at the end of the city's Juneteenth Festival prompted the cancellation of the planned second day of the festival at Pack Square Park downtown.

Asheville Police Department charged a 16-year-old with two counts of felonious assault with deadly weapon with intent to kill inflicting serious injury, Capt. Joseph Silberman said in a noon June 18 news release. Police did not release the name of the arrestee because the suspect is a juvenile.

According to the news release, reports of shots fired came in around 8:51 p.m. June 17. Officers found two juveniles with gunshot wounds, and they were transported to Mission Hospital with serious injuries, the news release said. One has been released, and the other remained in critical but stable condition....
4 people killed, dozens injured in chaotic night of mass shootings across the country

Willowbrook, Illinois, a southwest suburb of Chicago, Juneteenth celebration
George, Washington, Beyond Wonderland electronic dance music festival
St. Louis
... There have been 307 mass shootings in the U.S. in 2023, according to the Gun Violence Archive, a nonprofit project that tracks incidents. It defines a mass shooting as a single incident in which at least four people — other than the shooter — are shot.
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With "only" two shot in Asheville doesn't qualify.
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Florida recognizes three Confederate holidays as ‘official’ state holidays, but not Juneteenth

While federal workers have the day off in recognition of Juneteenth, state workers in Florida do not.

Juneteenth was recognized by Florida as a day of special observance back in the 1990's, but it isn’t recognized as an official state holiday....

At the same time, Florida does recognize some controversial state holidays including the birthdays of Robert E. Lee and Jefferson Davis along with Confederate Memorial Day....
:puke-left: :puke-left: :puke-left:

Ftr, NC recognizes Martin Luther King, Jr's Birthday, but not Juneteenth, Columbus Day or any slaver/traitor holidays.
https://oshr.nc.gov/state-employee-reso ... #2023-1089
That's not to say that NC is faultless, though:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confedera ... y_holidays
Statutory holidays

Confederate Memorial Day is a statutory holiday in Alabama on the fourth Monday in April, in Mississippi on the final Monday in April, and in South Carolina on May 10. In all of these states, state offices are closed on this day.

In Georgia, the fourth Monday in April was formerly celebrated as Confederate Memorial Day, but beginning in 2016, in response to the Charleston church shooting, the names of Confederate Memorial Day and Robert E. Lee's Birthday were struck from the state calendar and the statutory holidays were designated simply as "state holidays". Florida also continues to officially designate Confederate Memorial Day on the fourth Monday in April, although state offices remain open.

North Carolina also designates the holiday on May 10, although state offices remain open and localities may choose whether to observe it.

In June 2022, the Louisiana State Legislature voted to remove Confederate Memorial Day, as well as Robert E. Lee Day, from the state's calendar of official holidays.

Tennessee

In Tennessee, the governor is required by law to proclaim Confederate Decoration Day each June 3.

Texas

In Texas, Robert E. Lee's birthday (January 19th) was made a state holiday in 1931. In 1973, "Lee Day" was renamed "Confederate Heroes Day", consolidating it with a holiday celebrating Jefferson Davis and putting it the day after Martin Luther King Day. The official state description of the holiday states it is held "in honor of Jefferson Davis, Robert E. Lee, and other Confederate heroes;". State offices remain open but employees may have an optional day off.
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As for Juneteenth:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juneteent ... _and_local
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Adoption of Juneteenth as a commemoration or holiday in the US by states, in the years before the federal holiday in 2021
RED - Recognized before 2000
YELLOW - Recognized between 2000 and 2009
BLUE - Recognized between 2010 and 2021
As of 2023, 24 of these states and the District of Columbia have also made it a paid holiday for state or district workers. Federal government employees in all states are covered by the federal holiday.

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(St. Louis Congresswoman. Nurse, activist, organizer, mom, & pastor....)

:angry-banghead: :obscene-birdiered: Why didn't US Rep Hawley's god give him a brain and honesty?
This Christianity?

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There was no race-based chattel slavery here before Christians came

England, Russia, Spain, France, Portugal, Denmark, Sweden, South Africa, India, Ecuador, Colombia, Argentina, Venezuela, Uruguay, Mexico & Peru abolished it b4 US

America is literally where slavery came to live
Thomas Jefferson would dispute both those claims 😂
The reasons Republicans are banning history books is so that you will believe this is true.
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I can't tell if this is among the most offensive things I've ever heard, or *the* most offensive (and desperate, and pathetic) thing I've ever heard. America has *many* faiths. And if slavery came here to die, it took about 250 years (& 10's of millions of people) to do it.
Today is a good day to remember: Christians used the Bible as divine justification for slavery for centuries.

Particularly in America.
This fool @HawleyMO @SenHawleyPress ain’t got a damn thing to say about Christians who led Jim Crow for 92 years.
Slavery thrived so much under Christianity in America that it was enshrined in the Constitution. Slave owners regularly invoked the Bible to justify slavery. Only a Christian Nazi talks this way.
How Christian Slaveholders Used the Bible to Justify Slavery
The same charlatans pretending Christianity ended slavery are using their positions of power to silence Black voices as they disenfranchise minority communities through gerrymandering and voter suppression. Don't let them gaslight you. They are the problem.
Today is a good day to remember you saluted the Proud Boys and other assorted white nationalists who tried to overturn our democracy and that you're the place logic and empathy go to die.
Neal v Farmer, 9 Ga. 555, 578 (1851). We were worse than the English and the French on this issue.

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:o :puke-left:
The Bible is basically a rulebook on slavery. it was a tool used to keep slaves in line and to justify their treatment.

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Today is a good day to remember Josh Hawley raised his fist to the neo-Nazis and QAnon cult members who were about to attack the Capitol — and then ran out like a frightened child when they did it.
Dred Scott says you are a fascist idiot

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People were ready for SCOTUS to do the wrong thing:

Activists Spurred By SCOTUS Affirmative Action Ruling Sue Harvard Over Legacy Admissions
It’s the latest effort in a growing push against the practice of giving admissions priority to the children of alumni.


Victory will not only disadvantage Whites, but especially less than qualified wealthy Whites. GoPlaintiffsGo.
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People were ready for SCOTUS to do the wrong thing:

Activists Spurred By SCOTUS Affirmative Action Ruling Sue Harvard Over Legacy Admissions
It’s the latest effort in a growing push against the practice of giving admissions priority to the children of alumni.


Victory will not only disadvantage Whites, but especially less than qualified wealthy Whites. GoPlaintiffsGo.



Really?
No slavery in the Americas before white people came.
GB and India is a more complicated story than the reference

Slavery is part of all our past.

Oh and Colossians has little to nothing to do with Christianity, but almost everyone is scared to speak truth to Isreal.

And, of course Josh is a moron.

Current Ecuadorian slaves

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/2 ... mark-trial
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Jul 03, 2023 9:41 pm
https://twitter.com/michaelharriot/stat ... 4951857153

Really?
No slavery in the Americas before white people came.

It was not "race-based chattel slavery". It was tribe-based.

GB and India is a more complicated story than the reference

Colonialism is comparable to slavery, but there are differences.

Slavery is part of all our past.

Michael Harriot did not say otherwise.

Oh and Colossians has little to nothing to do with Christianity, but almost everyone is scared to speak truth to Isreal.

Huh?

And, of course Josh is a moron.

:thumbup: And a coward.

Current Ecuadorian slaves

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/2 ... mark-trial

Horrible.
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My Bible skills are lacking
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Iconic America: Our Symbols and Stories with David Rubenstein
The Statue of Liberty

Episode aired Jul 11, 2023

The evolving meaning of the Statue of Liberty and how it embodies values and conflicts in America, from abolition to the treatment of refugees.
TIL:
Statue of Liberty

... A broken chain and shackle lie at her feet as she walks forward, commemorating the national abolition of slavery following the American Civil War....

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The importance of abolition and even Blacks at all began to diminish before the statue was constructed. 66 years and this is the first I'm learning of this, not that immigration isn't also important. :x :angry-banghead: Blacks always come last in America. :(
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It's an insult to every Union soldier buried at Arlington and to every American soldier buried there since.
The fight over a Confederate statue in Arlington National Cemetery

A Confederate memorial in America's most honoured cemetery is coming down. But what should be done with it?

... Some 377 memorials have been renamed or removed since 2015. But as of 2022, some 723 remain, according to a report by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Hundreds more roads, schools and parks named after Confederate leaders also remain.

... As the violence unfolded in Charlottesville, Ms Ezekiel called her relatives. "What can we do about Moses Ezekiel's monument in Arlington?" she asked.

Her distant cousin had fought for the Confederacy. He was determined to build a monument to correct what he believed were "lies" told about the South.

His statue features a stereotypical depiction of a black woman, handing a baby to a southern soldier. Scholars view it as an artistic representation of the once popular idea that the war was a "lost cause", not about slavery, but instead a just fight for state's rights. Historians now largely view this explanation for the war as a myth, spread to cast the Confederacy in an honourable light, and to mask the brutality of the country's slave-owning past.

Within days, a public letter signed by Ms Ezekiel and dozens more relatives of the sculptor appeared in the Washington Post. Moses Ezekiel's family wanted his famous Confederate memorial removed.

"Like most such monuments, this statue intended to rewrite history to justify the Confederacy and the subsequent racist Jim Crow laws. It glorifies the fight to own human beings, and, in its portrayal of African Americans, implies their collusion.

"As proud as our family may be of Moses's artistic prowess, we — some twenty Ezekiels — say remove that statue. Take it out of its honored spot in Arlington National Cemetery and put it in a museum that makes clear its oppressive history."


... Once it is removed, what becomes of it is unclear: an NBC report from 2020 states that of 130 monuments removed, just 35 were moved to new homes - often museums or Confederate cemeteries. The remainder likely end up in storage, as none come forward to take them.
Wait, the whiny slaver/traitor lovers haven't been holding bake sales? Imagine that.
The statue would be the first war memorial that has ever been removed from Arlington. The Department of Defense says it must be removed by 1 January 2024 at the latest, "as it offers a nostalgic, mythologized vision of the Confederacy".

The same words are on an educational plaque near the statue, which adds that the monument features "highly sanitized depictions of slavery".

The cemetery installed that plaque in 2020, before the decision to remove the statue. "Most tour groups do not have the background to properly contextualize the Memorial," Ms Meeker says....

Even Ms Ezekiel and her family were torn about what they wanted done with it, when they wrote their protest letter.

"Some people wanted it ground to dust and thrown away. Others said no, it needs to be in a museum because it's a piece of art. Others still said it needs to be in a museum because it's a part of racist history that needs to be shown.

"I don't like it artistically. But, you know, it can't be denied that he was a great sculptor."
Warehouse, museum, private lot, scrapped, whatever - good riddance.
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Assuming the US Government, via Arlington Cemetery, owns the piece, ostensibly as a donation from the artist. Treat it as any other piece of art, return it to the donor - or the legal heir(s) of the donor. .

Or take it out and set it somewhere in Ward 8 and give out free hammers.

Or shove it into the Potomac.

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Assuming the US Government, via Arlington Cemetery, owns the piece, ostensibly as a donation from the artist. Treat it as any other piece of art, return it to the donor - or the legal heir(s) of the donor. .

Or take it out and set it somewhere in Ward 8 and give out free hammers.

Or shove it into the Potomac.
:D :thumbup: Gift it to SE DC.

Racist road-rager screams the N-word and then crashes his own car into freeway wall

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... At one point, the man seemingly swerves at the women, but loses control and side-swipes the freeway wall, doing considerable damage to his car. “That’s what you get!” one of the women yells out as car pieces scatter onto the freeway.

“Lets make this racist POS famous!!! His family, his friends, his job, his community all need to know what type of POS this punk a$$ is,” the caption on the video reads. “I guarantee he only had that energy because he was verbally assaulting and berating Queens instead of Kings. That’s all and good because the internet is undefeated! Be careful because its on sight if we ever see that Jeep in Oakland again!”

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Poll: Trump voters say racism against white Americans is a bigger problem than racism against Black Americans

... among 2020 Trump voters, 62% say that racism against Black Americans is a problem today — while 73% say that racism against white Americans is a problem.

Asked how much of a problem racism currently is, just 19% of Trump voters describe racism against Black Americans as a “big problem.” Twice as many (37%) say racism against white Americans is a big problem.
:wtf: Moronic perpetual victims.
Trump voters and self-identified Republicans — overlapping but not identical cohorts — are the only demographic groups identified by Yahoo News and YouGov who are more likely to say racism against white Americans is a problem than to say the same about racism against Black Americans. A majority (51%) of white Americans, for instance, think racism against people who look like them is a problem — but overall, far more white Americans (72%) say racism against Black Americans is a problem....
They're "a credit to our race". ;)
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Actual town name:
White Settlement, Texas

The city got its name because it was the lone settlement of white colonists amid several Native American villages in the Fort Worth area in the Texas Republic territory in the 1840s....
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More than 10 years and 95 pages later we have not made this serious yet!
Race, lets [sic] make this serious! It is nearly 2013.

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Actual town name:
White Settlement, Texas

The city got its name because it was the lone settlement of white colonists amid several Native American villages in the Fort Worth area in the Texas Republic territory in the 1840s....
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More than 10 years and 95 pages later we have not made this serious yet!
Race, lets [sic] make this serious! It is nearly 2013.

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Race Number Percentage
White (NH) 9,515 52.08%
Black or African American (NH) 1,290 7.06%
Native American or Alaska Native (NH) 112 0.61%
Asian (NH) 393 2.15%
Pacific Islander (NH) 68 0.37%
Some Other Race (NH) 65 0.36%
Mixed/Multi-Racial (NH) 885 4.84%
Hispanic or Latino 5,941 32.52%
Total 18,269
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I didn't know we still did that

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna98471
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm
I didn't know we still did that

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna98471
More info and more video:
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/st ... 538635007/

Seems like:
Pontoon boat Whites were illegally docked in riverboat space.
Black security was trying to get them to move.
White man initiated violence.
I see a Black man going nuts with a chair, including striking a White woman that's already on her butt. He's arrested by 2 Black cops.

Fwiw, I see many Whites and Blacks trying to break up the fighting.
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Mon Aug 07, 2023 4:36 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Mon Aug 07, 2023 2:12 pm
I didn't know we still did that

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna98471
More info and more video:
https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.com/st ... 538635007/

Seems like:
Pontoon boat Whites were illegally docked in riverboat space.
Black security was trying to get them to move.
White man initiated violence.
I see a Black man going nuts with a chair, including striking a White woman that's already on her butt. He's arrested by 2 Black cops.

Fwiw, I see many Whites and Blacks trying to break up the fighting.
The beginning of the fight looks like several whites jumping the one black security guy.
I could be wrong but I watched 3 videos
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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... Seems like:
... White man initiated violence....
The beginning of the fight looks like several whites jumping the one black security guy.
I could be wrong but I watched 3 videos
I see the same.

TV news: At least 4 White boaters charged.
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... I see a Black man going nuts with a chair, including striking a White woman that's already on her butt. He's arrested by 2 Black cops.

Fwiw, I see many Whites and Blacks trying to break up the fighting.
This is the guy I mentioned. This swing on a White man may or may not be justified, I'd have to review the video. It's after this that he moves left and whacks a defenseless woman seated on the dock and then is rapidly cuffed.

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The Reason Black Folks Are Rejoicing Over The Montgomery Brawl Is More Complicated Than You Think
When Black people are brutalized by white folks on camera, the results are usually very different.


... Justice for us is a rarity and often when we try to achieve it, we are victim-blamed and held responsible for our own demise. What we saw in Montgomery was not just an incredible show of unity amongst Black people, but the opposite of what we are used to seeing. This time when a Black man was being attacked by white people, he—and folks who stepped in on his behalf—fought back.

This is vital in both a broader historical context as well as a more localized one. As Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Nikole Hannah-Jones pointed out: “If you understand the history of Montgomery — one of the most prolific slave-trading cities in the U.S. turned brutally repressive apartheid regime after, and majority Black but JUST got its first Black mayor — it gives so much more perspective to this video.”

Black folks have been cutting up ever since we got wind of what went down in Montgomery and for good reason. We live in a society that will do whatever it takes to uphold white supremacy and the violence that comes along with it. What happened at the dock that day reminded us that there is power in community and simply that Black folks have had enough.
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I’m white and grew up in Alabama. I’m personally rejoicing over it because a bunch of dumb white assholes got the shit kicked out of them by a group of Black people who were not having it. It’s no more complex than that from where I’m sitting. I bet I’ve watched it twenty times, and I’ll probably watch it again tonight when I get home from work.
These are probably some of the same clowns that were at the Trump rally that day and felt emboldened to show their asses at the dock. Well, losers, Daddy Trump didn’t magically appear out of thin air to save you from your comeuppance. Pour some alcohol on it. You’ll feel better.
The Montgomery GQP dinner featuring Dolt .45 was actually the day before, but the commenter's point is still valid.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/loc ... 527908007/
I remember when someone said "this wouldn't have happened if they would have just complied."

This was true in this situation, just move your little boat and everyone would have gone home happy.
:---P
I'm just proud of the fact that they had a brawl with no gunfire. That in itself is a milestone for America.
:lol: :(
No one should be treated that way for doing their job. The people who attacked this man should be punished to fullest extent of the law.
The horror when bystanders stop being bystanders and start helping especially their own. Reality sets in for the attackers upon realizing they're not as dominant as they thought they were.
I just watched the Press conference, and the black man is the co-captain of the river boat. The river boat was actually waiting 45 minutes for the owners of the small boat to return so they could dock. When they didn't see the owners of the small boat, the co-captain went to see if he could shift the small boat and the rest is as seen on multiple videos. This is just a case of plain entitlement because they knew the space was reserved for the river boat. Well, they have to deal with the consequences now.
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