2024 Elections

Generally an unmoderated forum for discussion of pretty much any topic. The focus however, is usually politics.
Post Reply
User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

Trump is funneling campaign money into cash-strapped businesses. Experts say it looks bad.

Donald Trump’s main 2024 White House campaign fundraising operation sharply increased spending at the former president's properties in recent months, funneling money into his businesses at a time when he is facing serious legal jeopardy and desperately needs cash.

Trump’s joint fundraising committee wrote three checks in February and one in March to his Mar-a-Lago club in Palm Beach, Florida, totaling $411,287 and another in March to Trump National Doral Miami for $62,337, according to a report filed to the Federal Election Commission this week.

Federal law and FEC regulations allow donor funds to be spent at a candidate’s business so long as the campaign pays fair market value, experts say. Trump has been doing it for years, shifting millions in campaign cash into his sprawling business empire to pay for expenses such as using his personal aircraft for political events, rent at Trump Tower and events at his properties, which has included hotels and private clubs.

While the practice is legal, some campaign finance experts believe it raises ethical concerns when a candidate is generating personal revenue off running for office....
Everything is grift. MAGAt donors are SO gullible.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
GoCubsGo
Admiral
Posts: 17417
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:22 am

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by GoCubsGo »

Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

MAGAt pols are SO gullible.
Opinion
With one letter, Trump turned the Republican Party into an extortion racket


... This all sounds dodgy as the day is long, but regardless, here's what all the little Republican candidates not named Donald Trump are going to do. They're going to line up in their fancy Trump sneakers with their Trump Bibles tucked under their arms and drop an offering in the MAGA hat at the feet of the Donald.

Frankly, it’s what they deserve.

They gambled on this guy again.

And the house always wins.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
GoCubsGo
Admiral
Posts: 17417
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:22 am

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by GoCubsGo »

I'm confused, has he never heard himself speak?
Image

Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Apr 19, 2024 6:31 pm
I'm confused, has he never heard himself speak?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GLj6pshWQAA ... me=900x900

https://twitter.com/patriottakes/status ... 1148406957
:roll: All were elements of the 2020 "stollen election". Someone realized that availing your team of all voting options is a good thing.


Stolen farm valor, RepuQ of course:

This (Pennsylvania) GOP Senate Candidate Says He Grew Up on a Family Farm. Not Exactly.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21441
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by O Really »

Intentionally misleading, fershure, but I don't find that in the same category as claiming military service you didn't do or even lying about positions you've taken/not taken. Hopefully that's not the worst that the Dems have against him.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

O Really wrote:
Sat Apr 20, 2024 11:35 am
Intentionally misleading, fershure, but I don't find that in the same category as claiming military service you didn't do or even lying about positions you've taken/not taken. Hopefully that's not the worst that the Dems have against him.
Agreed, not definitive, just interesting and might cause skepticism about other claims. David McCormick on abortion won't be the issue, IF we can assume he'll adhere to campaign promises:
Dave recognizes that this is an incredibly polarizing issue and we need to seek policies that unify the country. Dave is pro-life, is opposed to a national abortion ban, and supports exceptions in the cases of rape, incest, and saving the life of the mother. In Pennsylvania, the current law, supported by both Republicans and Democrats, means abortion is legal through 24 weeks.
However, he lies about his opponent's stance:
Meanwhile, Bob Casey Jr. has the extreme position of supporting abortion up until the moment of birth. Bob Casey’s position is out of step with Pennsylvania, with America, and with his own late father.
The Dems probably won't be able to make much hay out of the lie, though.

Weirdly, Bob Casey doesn't even have an issues section on his website:
https://bobcasey.com/
Sloppy, sloppy.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

"A harbinger of what’s to come": New poll shows RFK Jr.'s campaign could sink Trump

Robert F. Kennedy Jr.'s independent campaign for president appears to hurt Donald Trump more than it does President Joe Biden, according to the latest NBC News polling.

In a head-to-head contest, Trump leads Biden by 2 percent. But when third-party candidates are included, Biden has the advantage, leading the pack with 39 percent of the vote compared to 37 percent for Trump and 13 percent for Kennedy. Other candidates, Jill Stein and Cornel west, take 3 percent and 2 percent of the vote, respectively.

According to the polling data, 15 percent of respondents who had picked Trump in the head-to-head match-up instead pick Kennedy in a five-way race. By comparison, Biden loses just 7 percent of his support when Kennedy and others are included in the race.

Republican voters generally approve of Kennedy, with 40 percent expressing a positive opinion compared to just 15 percent who have a negative opinion of the candidate. A majority of Democratic voters, by contrast, express a negative view of Kennedy, with just 16% viewing him positively.
GoKINOGo
... The findings do contradict the results of other national polls that show a bigger third-party vote would hurt Biden more than Trump. The Biden campaign has responded to those surveys by making a concerted appeal to Kennedy voters, including a recent campaign stop in Philadelphia at which the president touted support from other members of the Kennedy family.

McInturuff said it's possible the NBC News is an outlier. But it's also possible, he continued, that "our survey is a harbinger of what’s to come."
Too soon to leap to a conclusion, but fingers crossed.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21441
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by O Really »

What happens to the collective 5% if Don and Donna Quixote don't make it to the ballot?

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:31 am
What happens to the collective 5% if Don and Donna Quixote don't make it to the ballot?
If you mean Stein and West, some will vote D, some won't vote, and very few will vote R. Of course, this is all national polling. Could be that swing state voters will see a greater responsibility to not "waste" their votes on KINO or the others.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21441
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by O Really »

Vrede too wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 11:55 am
O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:31 am
What happens to the collective 5% if Don and Donna Quixote don't make it to the ballot?
If you mean Stein and West, some will vote D, some won't vote, and very few will vote R. Of course, this is all national polling. Could be that swing state voters will see a greater responsibility to not "waste" their votes on KINO or the others.
I know very little about Stein or West, except that neither one of them has a snowball's chance of getting elected. But if they know that their supporters, such as they are, are coming largely from disaffected Dems, and that every vote they get is essentially a vote for Trump, how can they find it responsible or rational to run? I'll take sheer ego and hubris for $500, Ken.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:22 pm
I know very little about Stein or West, except that neither one of them has a snowball's chance of getting elected. But if they know that their supporters, such as they are, are coming largely from disaffected Dems, and that every vote they get is essentially a vote for Trump, how can they find it responsible or rational to run? I'll take sheer ego and hubris for $500, Ken.
Some might say that it's "sheer ego and hubris for" an 82 year old to run for the WH :problem:

They would probably argue that Joe is insufficient and unworthy, and that their main appeal is to disaffected lefties who would otherwise stay home. I might agree and vote for one of them if I wasn't in a swing state. However, I'm still holding out hope for bribes as BRD's sole voter of consequence in 2024 ;)

The spoilers still hurt Joe a little in NC.
Trump vs Biden: Trump+4.2
Trump vs. Biden vs. Kennedy vs. West vs. Stein: Trump+6.3
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
GoCubsGo
Admiral
Posts: 17417
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:22 am

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by GoCubsGo »

O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 3:22 pm


I know very little about Stein or West, except that neither one of them has a snowball's chance of getting elected. But if they know that their supporters, such as they are, are coming largely from disaffected Dems, and that every vote they get is essentially a vote for Trump, how can they find it responsible or rational to run? I'll take sheer ego and hubris for $500, Ken.
I can think of nothing more important than defeating trump resoundingly in November.
Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21441
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by O Really »

One would think that would be clear to everyone but the hardest core trumpers.

User avatar
neoplacebo
Admiral of the Fleet
Posts: 11925
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: Kingsport TN

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by neoplacebo »

O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:40 pm
One would think that would be clear to everyone but the hardest core trumpers.
They should all wear shirts that say "Too dumb to learn, too mean to live."

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21441
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by O Really »

neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:19 am
"Too dumb to learn, too mean to live."
Didn't that original line end with "Bye Bye"?
We can only hope.

User avatar
GoCubsGo
Admiral
Posts: 17417
Joined: Sun Sep 23, 2012 2:22 am

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by GoCubsGo »

neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:19 am
O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:40 pm
One would think that would be clear to everyone but the hardest core trumpers.
They should all wear shirts that say "Too dumb to learn, too mean to live."
You're describing Archie.
Eamus Catuli~AC 000000 000101 010202 020303 010304 020405....Ahhhh, forget it, it's gonna be a while.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

neoplacebo wrote:
Wed Apr 24, 2024 7:19 am
O Really wrote:
Tue Apr 23, 2024 10:40 pm
One would think that would be clear to everyone but the hardest core trumpers.
They should all wear shirts that say "Too dumb to learn, too mean to live."
Superfluous.

Image
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51155
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: 2024 Elections

Unread post by Vrede too »

I hope it was all worth it for Billy
Martina Navratilova

Seriously. This man is a psychopath…
No honor among thieves
Welcome back to the fold, Bill! Now here's a swift kick to the nuts!
Feels weird to actually agree with him about something.
Article, more tweets
:clap:
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

Post Reply