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May be some hope of dumping his ass.
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Even Floridians don’t like Matt Gaetz.

A mere 21 percent of Floridians responded that they approve of the man they elected to congress while another 57 percent said they flat out disapprove of the job Gaetz has done since being elected, according to a Florida Atlantic University Mainstreet PolCom Lab survey. That’s a far cry from Gaetz’s results in the 2022 election, when he swept Florida’s 1st Congressional District by a margin of 35 percentage points.
As noted in the article, dislike doesn't necessarily translate into vote against, but still.

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Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:21 pm
May be some hope of dumping his ass.
https://newrepublic.com/post/177070/mat ... %2Fliberal
Even Floridians don’t like Matt Gaetz.

A mere 21 percent of Floridians responded that they approve of the man they elected to congress while another 57 percent said they flat out disapprove of the job Gaetz has done since being elected, according to a Florida Atlantic University Mainstreet PolCom Lab survey. That’s a far cry from Gaetz’s results in the 2022 election, when he swept Florida’s 1st Congressional District by a margin of 35 percentage points.
As noted in the article, dislike doesn't necessarily translate into vote against, but still.
Plus, as billy.pilgrim tragically knows better than anyone, Florida-wide polling doesn't necessarily translate into 1st Congressional District vote results.

2020
Matt Gaetz - 68%
Escambia County - 57% for TRE45QN :puke-left:
Okaloosa County - 68% for TRE45QN :puke-left: :puke-left:
Santa Rosa County - 72% for TRE45QN :puke-left: :puke-left: :puke-left:
Walton County - 75% for TRE45QN :puke-left: :puke-left: :puke-left: :puke-left:
Florida - 51% for TRE45QN, ouch
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Gaetz took 196,494 votes, roughly 68%, compared to Jones' 93,178, or 32%, according to unofficial election results as of Wednesday morning.
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Maybe Dems could run a less controversial candidate next time and take advantage of Gaetz's unlikeability.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:58 pm
Gaetz took 196,494 votes, roughly 68%, compared to Jones' 93,178, or 32%, according to unofficial election results as of Wednesday morning.
Thanks. While you were posting I added that plus the Walton County vote for TRE45QN to my post above.
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Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:10 pm
Maybe Dems could run a less controversial candidate next time and take advantage of Gaetz's unlikeability.
-0-? The Dem always gets 31-34% vs Goofy Gaetz.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida%2 ... on_results

Getting primaried is a more likely way to get rid of Gaetz than hoping for a magical Dem.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:58 pm
Gaetz took 196,494 votes, roughly 68%, compared to Jones' 93,178, or 32%, according to unofficial election results as of Wednesday morning.
Maybe there's another way.

'He is hated': House Republicans secretly consider expelling Matt Gaetz after booting George Santos

Have I mentioned that I'm a House GOP advisor?
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You are correct that there is no "criminal conviction" standard in the Constitution, law or congressional rules. However, it has been the de facto standard for more than 230 years of very shady pols. Only 2 convicts and 3 CSA fighters have been removed before today. For better or worse there will now be future expulsion efforts. Rep Ilhan Omar?


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Fri Dec 01, 2023 11:05 pm
I'm just saying that there has been a standard, not saying that it should be adhered to in the face of outrageous actions. Why not dump assholes like Bozobert, EmptyG, Goofy Gaetz and Corrupt Menendez?

Agreed 2/3 is a high bar, but I predict that more attempts will now be made, nttawwt.
I doubt they'll do it, if only because the GQP majority is so slim. Otoh, as with Santos anti-Gaetz Repubs will be joined by all or most of the Dems.
Several Republican House members, many of whom are still angry at Gaetz for his antics that have impeded McCarthy and the majority of the conference from passing legislation, have begun to discuss Gaetz’ ongoing investigation by the House Ethics Committee in the wake of the expulsion of embattled former Rep. George Santos, R-N.Y....

“There were a number of people who voted to expel Santos with the express intent of thinking through the precedent there on what happens next,” the member said. “There was a lot of forethought about the precedent and what would happen when a report on Gaetz comes out.”
Didn't someone here say more to come? :wave:
... GOP lawmakers, the Republican said, are much more “excited” to expel Gaetz than Santos if the House Ethics Committee releases a report that is just as damning for Gaetz as it was for the Long Island Republican.

The House Ethics Committee is currently investigating various allegations against Gaetz, including sexual misconduct, illicit drug use and misuse of campaign funds. The committee has reached out to at least one witness in its investigation in a sign the panel is turning to Gaetz after concluding its investigation into Santos, CNN reported. The Justice Department investigated Gaetz over sex trafficking allegations but decided not to pursue charges against him in February....

“If there’s anything in there that’s bad, I can guarantee people will have their fangs out. He is hated in our conference,” the House Republican said of the GOP conference’s attitude towards Gaetz. “If he comes back as guilty in this ethics thing, I think he’s in trouble.”

In a recent closed-door conference meeting, the Republican recalled, Gaetz stood up to speak but was yelled at by members “to sit down and shut up,” reflecting the animosity GOP lawmakers still harbors against Gaetz.
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Vrede too wrote:
Fri Dec 08, 2023 8:43 am

Maybe there's another way.

'He is hated': House Republicans secretly consider expelling Matt Gaetz after booting George Santos




Ouch. Scathe him and throw him out!
He was hated under Moronic Kevin and apparently is just as hated under Johnson the Johnson.

Points for consistency though.

House ethics probe of Gaetz seeks information from DOJ and woman who allegedly had sex with congressman as a minor
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He was hated under Moronic Kevin and apparently is just as hated under Johnson the Johnson.

Points for consistency though.

House ethics probe of Gaetz seeks information from DOJ and woman who allegedly had sex with congressman as a minor
Will his relatively new, still young, beautiful, wealth-adjacent wife, Ginger Luckey, get sick of the shaming and dump him like MadCaw's wife did?
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:39 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 8:43 pm
He was hated under Moronic Kevin and apparently is just as hated under Johnson the Johnson.

Points for consistency though.

House ethics probe of Gaetz seeks information from DOJ and woman who allegedly had sex with congressman as a minor
Will his relatively new, still young, beautiful, wealth-adjacent wife, Ginger Luckey, get sick of the shaming and dump him like MadCaw's wife did?
Yep.

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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Jan 24, 2024 9:39 pm
Will his relatively new, still young, beautiful, wealth-adjacent wife, Ginger Luckey, get sick of the shaming and dump him like MadCaw's wife did?
Yep.

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Witness Told Feds She Was Paid for Sex Parties With Matt Gaetz

When ABC News reported on Wednesday that the House Ethics Committee had acquired text messages between a young woman involved in the sex trafficking investigation and Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL), a Gaetz spokesperson told ABC that the congressman “does not know anything about the woman you’re referencing.”

That seems extraordinarily unlikely.

The Daily Beast can now report that this woman told prosecutors in 2021 that she had sex with Gaetz at a drug-fueled party that she was paid to attend, according to the woman’s attorney.

This attorney told The Daily Beast on Thursday that the woman, in fact, received payments in connection with multiple sex parties with people in Gaetz’s circle. Her lawyer said that, in response to a subpoena, she testified about her experiences to the U.S. Attorneys investigating Gaetz. And she turned over text messages, photos, and other evidence to the Justice Department as part of its child sex trafficking inquiry into the Florida congressman, the lawyer said.

The Daily Beast has obtained some of those messages and photos, which match the documents described by ABC News.

While the lawyer said he has not yet been contacted by House investigators, as ABC reported, the House Ethics Committee is now reviewing this evidence as part of its inquiry into whether Gaetz paid for sex with women and with an underage teen. In fact, the Ethics Committee met Thursday afternoon behind closed doors to discuss the Gaetz case, which also involves allegations of public corruption, solicitation of prostitution, habitual use of hard drugs, bribes or impermissible gifts, campaign finance violations, and exhibiting nude photos of sexual partners on the House floor.
Is there a chance that the House will oust Goofy Gaetz, thus making the GQP majority negligible? Will they retain the creep, instead, perhaps with a useless censure?
... The woman, whose name The Daily Beast is withholding, was older than 21 at the time of the encounters, the attorney said, noting that she emphasized to prosecutors that the sex was consensual.

“She told them that she and lots of girls were provided all kinds of controlled substances at these parties,” the lawyer said, confirming a number of news reports about the gatherings....

Although the woman appears to have ultimately declined the trip to the Florida Keys, ABC reported that she posed for a selfie with Gaetz on May 19, the planned departure day. That photo, which The Daily Beast has obtained, was taken at 10:53 p.m. in Winter Garden, Florida, according to metadata on the photo. It shows the attention-grabbing conservative in a T-shirt emblazoned with a quote from former Planned Parenthood vice president Mary Lasker: “If you think research is expensive, try disease.”
Planned Parenthood?!
Pro-science?!
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... At one point, the lawyer said, this person close to Gaetz berated his client for information about what she may tell anyone investigating Gaetz, and she felt that the clear intent was to pressure her to keep her mouth shut.

This Gaetz associate asked to meet the woman for lunch in the spring of 2021, the lawyer said. The setup made the attorney so uneasy, however, that he dispatched a colleague to tag along and monitor the meeting in secret.

“This associate was there asking her over and over and over what she had said, demanding she tell them,” the lawyer claimed. The lawyer reported that the woman felt intimidated but did not concede.

Last year, prosecutors announced they were declining to file charges against Gaetz, while also refusing to publicly offer an explanation. That decision, almost exactly one year ago, gave rise to frustration and outrage among key witnesses in the case, including women who had come forward to provide intimate and detailed accounts of their interactions, according to interviews with lawyers and witnesses in the matter.
Bribes? Extortion?
The Ethics probe appears to have rattled Gaetz. Last month, The Daily Beast reported that he privately told colleagues that the rebooted investigation was the reason he waged his scorched-earth campaign to oust then-House Speaker Kevin McCarthy. The months of infighting destroyed key allegiances within the House GOP, eroding trust and sowing enmity between members, feeding a stream of embarrassing headlines. Republicans still have not recovered from the damage.
Ah-ha!
... Gaetz’s close associate, Greenberg, struck a deal with prosecutors in May 2021, pleading guilty to child sex trafficking, fraud, and an array of other federal offenses. In his plea agreement, Greenberg admitted he had also connected the former 17-year-old to other unnamed “adult men” who had sex with her while she was still underage. After several proffers and deferments, Greenberg was eventually sentenced in December 2022, receiving 11 years in prison.

In a confession letter Greenberg penned in 2020 as part of his pursuit of a pardon from then-President Donald Trump, Greenberg wrote that Gaetz also paid to have sex with the 17-year-old, as The Daily Beast previously reported....
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It's amazing he's skated as long as he has, it's not like he's overly careful.

His day will come though but not by the current House. He's hated, but they love power more.
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It's amazing he's skated as long as he has, it's not like he's overly careful.

His day will come though but not by the current House. He's hated, but they love power more.
-0-? If the House Ethics Committee isn't prepared to 86 Goofy Gaetz, what's the point? They will look weak if they do any less.
"girlfriend"? The other article made her sound more like a hooker or a Madam.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Feb 16, 2024 5:34 pm
It's amazing he's skated as long as he has, it's not like he's overly careful.

His day will come though but not by the current House. He's hated, but they love power more.
-0-? If the House Ethics Committee isn't prepared to 86 Goofy Gaetz, what's the point? They will look weak if they do any less.
"girlfriend"? The other article made her sound more like a hooker or a Madam.
Thinking they're setting up for 2025. If they hold the house they probably won't need him or more likely they lose the house and they've done the groundwork for the dems.


Aren't we talking about two different women?
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Thinking they're setting up for 2025. If they hold the house they probably won't need him or more likely they lose the house and they've done the groundwork for the dems.
Interesting theory. Seems like a lot of 2023-24 work for a 2025 result, but could be.
Aren't we talking about two different women?
-0-? "who was a key witness in the federal investigation into the Florida lawmaker" from your link sounds like the one that's referred to at length in the article I posted. Maybe there are two who spewed to the feds.
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Gates still wins unless he’s removed from the ballot.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:29 am
Gates still wins unless he’s removed from the ballot.
That may very well be, he could even theoretically return after expulsion.

I get the sense (based on rumors and innuendo from the talking heads) that he is so reviled even in his own party that they're drawing a road map similar to the Jan 6 committee for criminal charges.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Feb 17, 2024 1:29 am
Gates still wins unless he’s removed from the ballot.
Good point :think: Can the House permanently expel a member or would it have to be renewed after each election until your neighbors quit reelecting him?
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That may very well be, he could even theoretically return after expulsion.

I get the sense (based on rumors and innuendo from the talking heads) that he is so reviled even in his own party that they're drawing a road map similar to the Jan 6 committee for criminal charges.
Congress can't charge anyone. Do you think DoJ can be persuaded to change their mind and charge Goofy Gaetz, after all?
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Congress can't charge anyone. Do you think DoJ can be persuaded to change their mind and charge Goofy Gaetz, after all?
Maybe after the 2024 election if they come up with enough.

What other endgame could there be? Doing the right thing? :laughing-rolling:

(Half surprised SPINO is tolerating it, Gaetz essentially put him in. It may be part of the cost of allowing him to stay in.)
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