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Well, then why hasn't be been impeached?

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Ragin Rebel wrote:
neoplacebo wrote::lol: incredible; why don't you go and research the history of previous presidents taking very similar actions. You're probably one of those raging morons that vote against their best interests and are too stupid to even realize it. You are doomed to an existence of blind stupidity. Good luck.

Not possible, I'm not a Low information Democrat. And if you will look back at the results of November 4th, Democrats got shellacked. The majority has spoken!!! And we are strongly urging our representatives to act on our will. Obama has many offenses to be impeached for, such as releasing terrorists without the consent of congress, aiding his Muslim brothers causes, among other things.
Not only possible, but likely. I'm not a low information Democrat either. I'm registered Independent so I have no allegiance to either party. I believe in common sense and reasonable solutions, not being a blind pig waiting for someone else to tell me how I should feel about any given situation. If you really did go and research this subject, you will realize, if you have any sort of intelligence and tendency toward independent thought processes, you will come to the conclusion that you're very much misguided. Congratulations to your handlers; they've apparently done a pretty good job on you. And if all these egregious acts have been committed by the president, I ask again......why hasn't he been impeached? I bet you have no answer.

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neoplacebo wrote: I ask again......why hasn't he been impeached? I bet you have no answer.
There is only one possible answer - they don't have legal grounds. As much hate has been thrown at every single thing Obama has done or not done by the Republicans over the past 6 years - as bad as they have wanted him blocked, defeated, gone, is there any conscious person in the world that believes that they have legal grounds and somehow out of the generosity of their heart just decided to let it go?

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Sounds like ol Ragin Redneck is mad because some evil Meskin took away his job harvesting apples. Oh wait...

That's real work. Just ask Kenny Barnwell, a Henderson County apple grower and another person (John Boyle) chatted with about immigration last week.
"The American worker will not work in the fields anymore — that's just a fact of life," said Barnwell, who has four full-time Latino workers (and yes, they're here legally). "If we want to eat safe food, we need to grow it here, where we have some control over it. I always say, 'We're going to import our food, or we're going to import our workers.'"

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neoplacebo wrote: I ask again......why hasn't he been impeached? I bet you have no answer.
There is only one possible answer - they don't have legal grounds. As much hate has been thrown at every single thing Obama has done or not done by the Republicans over the past 6 years - as bad as they have wanted him blocked, defeated, gone, is there any conscious person in the world that believes that they have legal grounds and somehow out of the generosity of their heart just decided to let it go?
I read a story today on Yahoo news about how Sarah Palin was talking about how the "problem" here is with those who voted for Obama in the first place (twice) so that basically means that the "problem" in America is actually Americans. Hilarious. I can't for the life of me figure out why this stupid bitch hasn't been thrown aside long ago. I can only assume the inherent subliminal racism is what the real problem is. They just can't stand it that our president is black and disregard the fact that he's not going to be running again. Dumbasses.

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Sarah Palin favorably rating in Alaska: 23%
They use her for entertainment value. Sorta like Honey Boo Boo with older kids.

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neoplacebo wrote:Well, then why hasn't be been impeached?

New new Republicans still have to take their oaths in January. Then our majority begins!!!!
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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neoplacebo wrote:
O Really wrote: There is only one possible answer - they don't have legal grounds. As much hate has been thrown at every single thing Obama has done or not done by the Republicans over the past 6 years - as bad as they have wanted him blocked, defeated, gone, is there any conscious person in the world that believes that they have legal grounds
If you are intelligent enough to read the Constitution and understand it instead of putting your own or the Liberal justices opinion on it, you will clearly see where Obama and his whole Regime have committed crimes of treason against the American people. Along with violating his oath to uphold and defend the laws of the land, by choosing which laws he wants to ignore to forward his Socialist agenda. Our Constitutional Republic has no place for Socialism or Communism in it, and anyone trying to change our laws from a Republic (not a democracy, never was or never will be) to a Socialist state should be executed for treason. And it's not about his race, I would gladly have Lt. Col. Allen West, our own SC Senator Tim Scott or Dr. Ben Carson in his place right now over many of the white Republicans that now have visions of being nominated in 2016.

I read a story today on Yahoo news about how Sarah Palin was talking about how the "problem" here is with those who voted for Obama in the first place (twice) so that basically means that the "problem" in America is actually Americans. Hilarious. I can't for the life of me figure out why this stupid bitch hasn't been thrown aside long ago. I can only assume the inherent subliminal racism is what the real problem is. They just can't stand it that our president is black and disregard the fact that he's not going to be running again. Dumbasses.
Really??? Sarah has it right, the problem is with the low information Americans who would easily be conned into a life of Welfare and other Government handouts so that they can lay on their lazy asses, collect a measly check and let the Government run their lives, just so they don't have to work or have responsibilities. But even those who scurried for the crumbs are waking up and moving off the plantation. They have figured out over 6 years that Santa Claus is a fairy tale agitator with no experience running anything but his mouth. At least Sarah had much more executive experience than Obama!!!
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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Ah, "our" majority. Now I understand. You must be among the individually wealthy, or a corporation, since those are the only beneficiaries of "our" majority. You are certainly not a middle-to lower class worker, citizen over 65, unemployed person without health insurance, female, or any other "ordinary" person, because if you are and you consider it "our" majority, you're fershure simply blinded by your objection to Obama personally.

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Ragin Rebel wrote:
If you are intelligent enough to read the Constitution and understand it instead of putting your own or the Liberal justices opinion on it,

Ummm, liberal or conserative, what the Justices say the Constitution means is what it means. And that's in the Constitution, too.

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Just as I thought; Ragin' Rebel has no answer as to why the president hasn't been impeached. Because no one has told him why. Pathetic.

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neoplacebo wrote:I read a story today on Yahoo news about how Sarah Palin was talking about how the "problem" here is with those who voted for Obama in the first place (twice) so that basically means that the "problem" in America is actually Americans.
Especially keeping in mind that Palin herself, on the Bill O'Reilly show, has called for a general amnesty for illegal immigrants. One that goes far beyond what Obama has done.

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Ragin Rebel wrote:
neoplacebo wrote:
O Really wrote: There is only one possible answer - they don't have legal grounds. As much hate has been thrown at every single thing Obama has done or not done by the Republicans over the past 6 years - as bad as they have wanted him blocked, defeated, gone, is there any conscious person in the world that believes that they have legal grounds
If you are intelligent enough to read the Constitution and understand it instead of putting your own or the Liberal justices opinion on it, you will clearly see where Obama and his whole Regime have committed crimes of treason against the American people. Along with violating his oath to uphold and defend the laws of the land, by choosing which laws he wants to ignore to forward his Socialist agenda. Our Constitutional Republic has no place for Socialism or Communism in it, and anyone trying to change our laws from a Republic (not a democracy, never was or never will be) to a Socialist state should be executed for treason. And it's not about his race, I would gladly have Lt. Col. Allen West, our own SC Senator Tim Scott or Dr. Ben Carson in his place right now over many of the white Republicans that now have visions of being nominated in 2016.

I read a story today on Yahoo news about how Sarah Palin was talking about how the "problem" here is with those who voted for Obama in the first place (twice) so that basically means that the "problem" in America is actually Americans. Hilarious. I can't for the life of me figure out why this stupid bitch hasn't been thrown aside long ago. I can only assume the inherent subliminal racism is what the real problem is. They just can't stand it that our president is black and disregard the fact that he's not going to be running again. Dumbasses.
Really??? Sarah has it right, the problem is with the low information Americans who would easily be conned into a life of Welfare and other Government handouts so that they can lay on their lazy asses, collect a measly check and let the Government run their lives, just so they don't have to work or have responsibilities. But even those who scurried for the crumbs are waking up and moving off the plantation. They have figured out over 6 years that Santa Claus is a fairy tale agitator with no experience running anything but his mouth. At least Sarah had much more executive experience than Obama!!!
Well, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. I'm a veteran, have worked pretty hard all my adult life, and have never been on welfare. Nor has anyone in my family been on welfare. But I am glad to know that welfare is there should I or any of my family need it. You champion ideals that are against your own interests unless, as O Really says, you're a corporation or a millionaire. But you still haven't answered the question; if Obama has done such egregious and illegal things, why hasn't he been impeached? You have no answer; just bullshit, which is what you thrive on and what you espouse. Why are you so gullible and misguided? Can you not analyze an issue and determine for yourself its merits or faults? I bet you can't answer that, either. Again, why hasn't Obama been impeached? Your idols have been spewing this threat for years; if there's an issue that merits impeachment, why hasn't it happened? And please don't give me some bullshit about how the majority have spoken and all that stuff. Make some sense. I bet you can't. And I will win the bet.

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neoplacebo wrote:Just as I thought; Ragin' Rebel has no answer as to why the president hasn't been impeached. Because no one has told him why. Pathetic.
Er, "HOW DARE Obama repeat Bush I's very similar executive amnesty.....?"

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rstrong wrote:
neoplacebo wrote:Just as I thought; Ragin' Rebel has no answer as to why the president hasn't been impeached. Because no one has told him why. Pathetic.
Er, "HOW DARE Obama repeat Bush I's very similar executive amnesty.....?"
That sort of thing is way above his comprehension level and will always be. It's a shame there's not a program of intellectual welfare to benefit those with limited ability to digest current affairs. Oh, wait.....I learned most of this when I was attending public schools in civics and social studies classes. I guess Rebel missed it. I wonder again; why hasn't Obama been impeached?

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I just can't believe it; what with all the scandalous shenanigans that have been perpetrated on the American citizenry lately.....fast and furious, Benghazi, IRS targeting of partisans, the passage of the ACA, the recent executive action regarding immigration.....and still Ragin Rebel can't say why Obama hasn't been impeached. I guess we'll just have to wait until someone tells him why that is.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Ragin Rebel wrote:
neoplacebo wrote:
O Really wrote: There is only one possible answer - they don't have legal grounds. As much hate has been thrown at every single thing Obama has done or not done by the Republicans over the past 6 years - as bad as they have wanted him blocked, defeated, gone, is there any conscious person in the world that believes that they have legal grounds
If you are intelligent enough to read the Constitution and understand it instead of putting your own or the Liberal justices opinion on it, you will clearly see where Obama and his whole Regime have committed crimes of treason against the American people. Along with violating his oath to uphold and defend the laws of the land, by choosing which laws he wants to ignore to forward his Socialist agenda. Our Constitutional Republic has no place for Socialism or Communism in it, and anyone trying to change our laws from a Republic (not a democracy, never was or never will be) to a Socialist state should be executed for treason. And it's not about his race, I would gladly have Lt. Col. Allen West, our own SC Senator Tim Scott or Dr. Ben Carson in his place right now over many of the white Republicans that now have visions of being nominated in 2016.

I read a story today on Yahoo news about how Sarah Palin was talking about how the "problem" here is with those who voted for Obama in the first place (twice) so that basically means that the "problem" in America is actually Americans. Hilarious. I can't for the life of me figure out why this stupid bitch hasn't been thrown aside long ago. I can only assume the inherent subliminal racism is what the real problem is. They just can't stand it that our president is black and disregard the fact that he's not going to be running again. Dumbasses.
Really??? Sarah has it right, the problem is with the low information Americans who would easily be conned into a life of Welfare and other Government handouts so that they can lay on their lazy asses, collect a measly check and let the Government run their lives, just so they don't have to work or have responsibilities. But even those who scurried for the crumbs are waking up and moving off the plantation. They have figured out over 6 years that Santa Claus is a fairy tale agitator with no experience running anything but his mouth. At least Sarah had much more executive experience than Obama!!!
Well, you're certainly entitled to your own opinion. I'm a veteran, have worked pretty hard all my adult life, and have never been on welfare. Nor has anyone in my family been on welfare. But I am glad to know that welfare is there should I or any of my family need it. You champion ideals that are against your own interests unless, as O Really says, you're a corporation or a millionaire. But you still haven't answered the question; if Obama has done such egregious and illegal things, why hasn't he been impeached? You have no answer; just bullshit, which is what you thrive on and what you espouse. Why are you so gullible and misguided? Can you not analyze an issue and determine for yourself its merits or faults? I bet you can't answer that, either. Again, why hasn't Obama been impeached? Your idols have been spewing this threat for years; if there's an issue that merits impeachment, why hasn't it happened? And please don't give me some bullshit about how the majority have spoken and all that stuff. Make some sense. I bet you can't. And I will win the bet.
As for being a veteran, Thank You for your service.

But as far as welfare and other Government hand outs, they are never mentioned in the Constitution. The general welfare clause says nothing of supporting financially any person or group of people. It is only to pay the debts or provide for the welfare of the Union. In like manner, they (Congress) are not to do anything they please to provide for the general welfare, but only to lay taxes for that purpose.

I am not a millionaire, nor a corporation. But I believe that everyone should pull their own weight and not depend on Government to keep them up. And sure if someone is unable to work due to illness or a legitimate disability that was no fault of their own, I can see giving them a helping hand. But to the Baby mama's who have 15 kids by 10 or 12 different daddies who's greatest ambition was to be a drug dealer or a pimp or are serving the next 25 to life in prison, I say screw em, along with the terminally lazy . I am only charitable to a certain extent, and I believe the best place to find a helping hand is at the end of your arm.


And to answer your question as to why he has not been impeached, simple, it is that so many Republicans these days are scared of the issue, because they fear being called a racist, by the Democrat party, the Drive-by Media or race baiters like Sharpton and Jackson, who thrive on division. And there are those who fear that convicting a sitting president of treason, with the penalty of death, or High Crimes and Misdemeanors would make the US look bad and weak to the world. But to the contrary, it would make us look stronger as a people because are telling future politicians that they work for us. WE THE PEOPLE are the ones who grant them their authority. And we should all hope for real justice as our laws are written by our founding fathers who knew that a despot could arise within our own government. That is why the 2nd Article in amendment to the Constitution was the only thing that got the Constitution ratified in the first place. And we are not helpless children who would not understand or be troubled by a criminal president and his regime being removed by impeachment or execution for treason. If a man does wrong and breaks the law he should be prepared to accept his fate, along with his cohorts in crime. If you can't do the time, don't do the crime. But if we look at the involvement into Obama's crimes by others, 98+% of the Democratic Party would be on death row with Obama.

I feel sorry for all of you who have been duped by this fraud of a POTUS. But for those who see Obama's plan as their own utopia I have no compassion.

Oh and by the way, the last 2 years of Bush's term the Congress and Senate were both controlled by Democrats, why didn't they impeach Bush?????
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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Vrede wrote::lol: Same stupidity for over 2 years now.
[color=#BF0000]Vrede[/color] wrote:
Ragin Rebel wrote:" I will stand with the Muslim's

Neither Obama nor anyone else with more than a 5th grade education would put an apostrophe in "Muslim's".

should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one...

Ummm, your misquote is from The Audacity of Hope, published 5 years after September 11, 2001, dummy.
Vrede [color=#BF0000][b]Oct 18, 2012[/b][/color] wrote:
Ragin Rebel wrote:...What idiots.

" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama
Misquote. Idiot much?
This statement is a rewording of a passage from page 261 of The Audacity of Hope, in which Barack Obama spoke of the importance of not allowing inflamed public opinion to result in innocent members of immigrant groups being stripped of their rights, denied their due as American citizens, or placed into confinement, as was done with Japanese-Americans during World War II. The original contains no specific mention of "Muslims":
In the wake of 9/11, my meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/coilofrage.asp
Yes, the political winds do shift, but Ragin Rebel will always be a liar and a buffoon.
Ragin Rebel is too cretinous to get that his consistent gullibility, illiteracy, foolishness, cowardice and lies wreck the credibility of any other opinion he may have, poor thing.

As of this week the House GOP has even made his 9/11/12 avatar a laughingstock, poor thing.

Vrede, your a fucking blow hard. The only game you have is to try to intimidate by calling people liars, racist or homophobes. You quote facts from unreliable sources such as Snopes etc.as your truth.

But the facts remain, Obama has given in more to his Muslim friends than he has to Christians or Jews. He has turned his back on our ally Israel and backs the Palestinians and other Muslim groups. Just as the quote implies.

And the Benghazi things not over yet. There is more to be uncovered, so I will keep my avatar the way it is. And to be offended by you, I would first have to give a shit about your opinion. Your Community Agitator has been a total failure as a POTUS poser, Live with it!!!!
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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Vrede wrote:
Ragin Rebel wrote:Vrede, your (sic) a fucking blow hard.

You're a vulgar child, and a wuss when you screw up.

I don't screw up!!!! :lol:

The only game you have is to try to intimidate by calling people liars, racist or homophobes.

You've lied for 2 years. Man-up.

I don't lie!!



You lie, it's only when they're racist or homophobic.

You quote facts from unreliable sources such as Snopes etc.as your truth.

:lol: You actually believes that Obama misspelled "Muslim's". What a fool! Some illegal immigrants are more literate than you are and most are smarter.

Snopes is well known to support the Liberal Progressive agenda, and like all Libs, they lie their asses off, and dumb ass low information voters believe them, just like they believe the Federal Reserve is actually part of the Federal Government instead of a privately owned banking cartel in the business to make a profit.
By the way I am smart enough to stay away from the Progressive agenda, and not destroy this nation the way Democrats have since 1913.
And I am smart enough to critically think for myself. That is the very reason that I am debt free. House paid for, cars, trucks, tractors and everything else paid off.
I am smart enough to believe in a Supreme Creator and his word. I have no fantasy that I am my own god.
And I'm smart enough to know that the lefts agenda to promote Man Made Global warming is all bullshit to bilk more and more money out of Americans. There's no OZONE layer, it's called the Ionosphere and the so called hole in it is a natural occurring event that has been going on since the first day God turned the light on this planet.
And I'm smart enough to know that there has never been any medical data proving people are born Queer.


All other honest sources that say the same thing, you poor paranoid thing. It's a book anyone can pick up and scan. You've just been too much of a wimp for 2 years now to look in the book and see for yourself. You've swallowed what you were fed and the misquoters are laughing at how gullible you are, just as I am.


I prefer not to read the blather and pablum that spews from Obama or Bill Ayers. If I want to read lies, I'd read your posts.

But the facts remain, Obama has given in more to his Muslim friends than he has to Christians or Jews.

Lie, again. Most federal spending, by far, goes to Christians and Israel is our biggest foreign aid recipient. You have no credible source for your claim and you know it, not that you'll ever have the stones to admit it.

How about the release of 5 terrorist for a deserter without the consent of Congress, which is the law of the land??? Or changing the Obamacare TAX without the consent of Congress?? Only Congress can write law, or levy TAXES not the POTUS, he does not have that enumerated power. And how about the terrorist he just released this past Thursday without the consent of Congress again????? In both cases where terrorist were released, they are back in the war zones with ISIS.

He has turned his back on our ally Israel

I only wish you were being honest this time.

I am honest.
Obama has put down the Israelis in this last attack on a Synagogue in Israel by Palestinians, claiming too many Palestinians have died.
And he supports the Palestinian State.
and backs the Palestinians and other Muslim groups. Just as the quote implies.


:roll: Right, they're all doing so great for it.

And the Benghazi things not over yet.
There is more to be uncovered, so I will keep my avatar the way it is.

Of course not, that's how you wingnuts are, even when the House GOP makes fools of you.


It is known that guns and weapons were being run through there to support Syrian Rebels aka ISIS aka OUR Enemy.


There is more to be uncovered, so I will keep my avatar the way it is.

I encourage you to, it's your badge of cowardice and stupidity.

Oh more name calling eh??? I'm not the coward here.

And to be offended by you, I would first have to give a shit about your opinion.

You replied, in detail. Try to make sense, really try.

You're stuttering Vrede!! Upset???

Your Community Agitator has been a total failure as a POTUS poser, Live with it!!!!

I'm not an Obama fan, you've screwed that up, too.

Then why do you support the agenda he is pushing??? Do you want America, our Constitutional Republic (NOT A DEMOCRACY) to become a Socialist 3rd world Nation, or be a super power that the world fears??? If you want Socialism, I'm sure you will be welcomed in Canada or Europe.

My ancestors have been here since the 1560's, long before this was the united States. They have fought in every war since the Declaration of Independence was written, on the side of freedom and independence. I will not let their sacrifices be in vain.
" I will stand with the Muslim's should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ------Barack Hussein Obama

The shift occurred September 11, 2001 and he kept his word on that one.
It was evident again on September 11, 2012.

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Ragin Rebel,

Setting aside your fake Obama quotes and pig-ignorant claims about America (As just a start, America is indeed a democracy. Yes, it's also a Republic. The two are not mutually exclusive)....

The common theme I'm seeing from you is that everything you declare unconstitutional or "socialist", was also Republican policy before Obama took power. So could we please narrow this down?

What Obama's policies do you disapprove of, that weren't Republican policy until Obama adopted them?

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