She's Back

Generally an unmoderated forum for discussion of pretty much any topic. The focus however, is usually politics.
Cowboy
Pilot Officer
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:01 pm

She's Back

Unread post by Cowboy »

Fox News reunites with Sarah Palin. But why?

By Erik Wemple
June 13, 2013

Fox News exhibited savvy and forward thinking earlier this year when it issued this statement on the news that Sarah Palin would no longer serve as a network contributor: “We have thoroughly enjoyed our association with Governor Palin. We wish her the best in her future endeavors.”

Turns out that one of those future endeavors is … another association with Fox News. Via Mediaite and a press release comes the news that Palin is rejoining Fox News as a contributor.

The statement from Palin: “The power of Fox News is unparalleled. The role of Fox News in the important debates in our world is indispensable. I am pleased and proud to be rejoining Roger Ailes and the great people at FOX.”

The statement from Fox News chief Roger Ailes: “I’ve had several conversations with Governor Palin in the past few weeks about her rejoining FOX News as a contributor. I have great confidence in her and am pleased that she will once again add her commentary to our programming. I hope she continues to speak her mind.”

That, of course, is precisely the hazard. Breaking down the backward thinking in this move by Fox News requires only the most rudimentary critical skills: Once you’ve heard one Sarah Palin segment, you have heard them all. Cue up a recitation of conservative propaganda, narcissism and empty scolding of the “lamestream media,” and repeat.

Do not take the word of the Erik Wemple Blog, however. We have evidence that others reached the same conclusions.

On page 280 of his highly readable book “An Atheist in the Foxhole,” former Fox News “mole” Joe Muto details how Palin came to be regarded in the Fox News newsroom:
[H]er abilities as a pundit left much to be desired. She conversed entirely in shallow, empty platitudes, as if she’d just memorized a list of talking points instead of actually boning up on whatever issue was on her plate. … A few months into her tenure, O’Reilly exploded with frustration when he was told for the third time in a row that Palin wouldn’t be available. “I don’t know why this woman refuses to help us out,” he vented. “And when she does come on, she doesn’t say anything. It’s just the same BS talking points every time.”
Even the “conservative true believers,” writes Muto, came to admit over time that Palin was “every bit as uninformed as her liberal critics had charged.”

Another insight on Palin comes from Muto’s book: She “tended to play hard to get,” he writes, stiff-arming requests for appearances. She also allegedly refused to participate in pre-interview briefings, which “meant that we producers could never brief her on the segment, making it that much more likely she’d get hit with an unpleasant surprise or unexpected question on live television.”

So: As unfortunate as this is for Fox News viewers, it’s worse for Fox News producers.

With this announcement, the backstory of the rapprochement between Ailes and Palin becomes by far the most precious commodity on the media-news beat. Was Ailes concerned about ratings and wanted the Palin brand and Facebook audience behind his network? Did one of the parties beg and plead?

User avatar
rstrong
Captain
Posts: 5889
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:32 am
Location: Winnipeg, MB

Re: She's Back

Unread post by rstrong »

Cowboy wrote:On page 280 of his highly readable book “An Atheist in the Foxhole,” former Fox News “mole” Joe Muto details how Palin came to be regarded in the Fox News newsroom:
[H]er abilities as a pundit left much to be desired. She conversed entirely in shallow, empty platitudes, as if she’d just memorized a list of talking points instead of actually boning up on whatever issue was on her plate. … A few months into her tenure, O’Reilly exploded with frustration when he was told for the third time in a row that Palin wouldn’t be available. “I don’t know why this woman refuses to help us out,” he vented. “And when she does come on, she doesn’t say anything. It’s just the same BS talking points every time.”
One of the funniest things I've seen on Faux News was Bill O’Reilly playing Ping-Pong with Palin's opinions.

One moment she was loudly opposing illegal immigration amnesty and demanding that all the illegal immigrants be rounded up and deported. O’Reilly patiently explained the problem that would cause for farm owners. Without missing a beat, Palin immediately called for an illegal immigration amnesty. This went on with several other political issues.

User avatar
neoplacebo
Admiral of the Fleet
Posts: 11922
Joined: Mon Sep 17, 2012 1:42 pm
Location: Kingsport TN

Re: She's Back

Unread post by neoplacebo »

Remember during her election campaign when Katie Couric asked her what magazines and papers she read on a regular basis? She couldn't even come up with an answer; she said something like "all of them" or some such nonsense. As for her return to Faux, this just proves that not only does money talk, but bullshit does, too.

User avatar
Ombudsman
Ensign
Posts: 1268
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:03 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Ombudsman »

neoplacebo wrote:Remember during her election campaign when Katie Couric asked her what magazines and papers she read on a regular basis? .
Damn "gotcha media." What business do they have asking her if she keeps up with current events?
Wing nuts. Not just for breakfast anymore.

Cowboy
Pilot Officer
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:01 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Cowboy »

Ombudsman wrote:Damn "gotcha media." What business do they have asking her if she keeps up with current events?
Or if she can even read?

User avatar
Ombudsman
Ensign
Posts: 1268
Joined: Sat Feb 23, 2013 1:03 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Ombudsman »

Vrede wrote:Or if she knew what a magazines or newspaper is?
Pretty sure she does. They've been lining her cage for years.
Wing nuts. Not just for breakfast anymore.

User avatar
Dryer Vent
Pilot Officer
Posts: 149
Joined: Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:55 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Dryer Vent »

Oh goodie. Just what the world needs: Sarah Palin talking to millions of devoted (albeit stoopid) fans.

Cowboy
Pilot Officer
Posts: 128
Joined: Wed Jan 02, 2013 9:01 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Cowboy »

Think of all the new material for Tina Fey.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-OCDexYrU

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51128
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Vrede too »

Sarah Palin Under Consideration for VA Secretary

Neither she nor hubby Todd are veterans and she was a lousy administrator, one big FU to vets from chickenhawk Trump.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21436
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by O Really »

The son was, though. And she can look out her window and make sure Putin isn't going to cause trouble. And she can put lipstick on pigs and get into family brawls at picnics. Sounds about standard Trump appointee to me.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51128
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Vrede too »

My niece does painting and dance, I should be NEA director.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21436
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by O Really »

Semi-serious comment - as far as I know, most of the problems at various VA's aren't because those running them are necessarily bad people or incompetent. It appears to be largely funding/budgetary. They don't have the resources to meet the needs. Even assuming the hockey mom was a good administrator, it would be interesting to see what happens when she got a dose of reality.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51128
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Vrede too »

The bigger problem is that we keep creating so very many veterans with needs. Doesn't look like Trump will end that.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
O Really
Admiral
Posts: 21436
Joined: Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:37 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by O Really »

Well, yeah, there's that. But root causes are a bit esoteric for Republicans (and a lot of Dems).

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51128
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Vrede too »

As with procurement, if full costs were ever enumerated up front we might make different choices.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
billy.pilgrim
Admiral
Posts: 15632
Joined: Wed Oct 10, 2012 1:44 pm

Re: She's Back

Unread post by billy.pilgrim »

Vrede too wrote:Sarah Palin Under Consideration for VA Secretary

Neither she nor hubby Todd are veterans and she was a lousy administrator, one big FU to vets from chickenhawk Trump.

Lying SoS Jeff miller is gonna be pissed. He didn't run for his supersafe congress seat because dunald told him that he could be top dog at VA

Amazing how obama was blamed for Miller's incompetence
And miller still gets the vet vote
Trump: “We had the safest border in the history of our country - or at least recorded history. I guess maybe a thousand years ago it was even better.”

User avatar
rstrong
Captain
Posts: 5889
Joined: Thu Oct 25, 2012 9:32 am
Location: Winnipeg, MB

Re: She's Back

Unread post by rstrong »

The rest of the world is getting over the shock of America's election choice, and is warming up the popcorn.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51128
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Vrede too »

rstrong posted about "Trumpgrets" in another thread.
Sarah Palin Says Trump's Carrier Deal Could Be 'Crony Capitalism'

Gov. Sarah Palin, who is being considered for a cabinet position in the Trump administration -- is raising alarm over president-elect's recently announced deal with Carrier, suggesting in an op-ed it could amount to "crony capitalism."

"When government steps in arbitrarily with individual subsidies, favoring one business over others, it sets inconsistent, unfair, illogical precedent," Palin wrote in a 'Young Conservatives' op-ed. "Republicans oppose this, remember? Instead, we support competition on a level playing field, remember? Because we know special interest crony capitalism is one big fail." ...

Carrier said in a statement the agreement was due in part to the incoming administration's lobbying as well as state tax incentives. Trump's transition team has refused to publicly disclose the full details of the deal, but company officials said in a statement Thursday that the state of Indiana, where Pence is governor, offered the company a $7 million package over multiple years, contingent on factors including employment, job retention and capital investment....

Palin goes so far to point out that such government intervention sets an "illogical precedent" of a corporate welfare system she labels as "a hallmark of corruption....
Trump and Pence just told corporations and terrorists that they will gladly pay ransom for hostages.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

User avatar
Boatrocker
Lieutenant Commander
Posts: 2059
Joined: Thu Jan 03, 2013 11:53 am
Location: Southeast of Disorder

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Boatrocker »

Vrede too wrote:rstrong posted about "Trumpgrets" in another thread.
She's just butthurt cause the trumphole hasn't grabbed her pussy, yet. Or, lately. Whichever is the case.
I will not lie down.
I will not go quietly.

User avatar
Vrede too
Superstar Cultmaster
Posts: 51128
Joined: Fri Apr 03, 2015 11:46 am
Location: Hendersonville, NC

Re: She's Back

Unread post by Vrede too »

It could be that Palin has already been told that she won't get an admin. position, but as far as we know she's still in the running. Until we learn more I'm inclined to give her the benefit of the doubt since her gripe is consistent with her ideology. Corporate welfare is one issue where I and some cons, too few of them, agree.

Then again, maybe she remembers that she was a lousy administrator, or she has no interest in a government job pay cut.
Last edited by Vrede too on Sun Dec 04, 2016 5:19 pm, edited 1 time in total.
A clown with a flamethrower still has a flamethrower.
-- Charlie Sykes on MSNBC
1312. ETTD.

Post Reply