The car thread ...

[neoplacebo]

Coulda been in the "Dumb Headlines" thread, but since it's a Camaro...
The link at MSN was: "Camaro involved in apparent collision with 2 bison found dead in park"

Dead Camaro? in park, not in drive or neutral? Banged up car, two dead bison in an "apparent" collision?

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/canada/c ... &ocid=iehp

Nothing worse than a dead Camaro. Hell, that guy must have been a nut and somehow otherwise distinctive; everybody in the story kept repeating how they thought "who is this guy". Hilarious. Camaro dude goes all the way to the Northwest Territory with his nutty Air Force decals; and goes over the high side with native fauna. When they all gathered round to observe the debacle they were probably still saying "who the fuck is this guy?". It should have been on tv with "no collusion, no obstruction" billboards in the background.

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The Hemi has been a legend for many years, but that triple-carbed 440 engine had adopted a cult following of its own. A significant body change had been planned for the ’70 model, but that would be put off until the 1971 model year.

The 1970 440 continued to be capable of 390 horsepower when equipped with the so-called Air Grabber induction system. That interesting system provided a solid connection between the hood scoops and engine once the hood was closed. The sides of the pop-up Air Grabber door were eye-catching with evil-looking shark’s teeth etched on the sides.

The front end was menacing-looking with the blackout grille containing twin headlights mounted in its ends. The agressive bumper contained a pair of round parking lights on either side of the license plate. When looking at the ’70 Road Runner, and comparing it with the other garnish MOPAR muscle machines of the era, it appeared downright stripped. Oh, there was a stripe and 440+6 lettering on the hood, but that was about it. About the only eye catcher was the simulated rear-fender-scoop cut-out.

Some of the models did, however, have a dust trail that reached from near the front of the front fender and disappeared into that scoop.

The only sizable name identification externally was the “Road Runner” lettering contained in a stripe located on the rear end of the car, just above the tail lights. As far as engine identification, in addition to the aforementioned 440+6 designations on the hood, there was also a “440″ in the rear of a hood bulge with turn signal indicators.

With that famous name, the company made the most of it with a special horn to sound like that famous cartoon bird. The horn made the Road Runner ’Beep Beep’ sound which was unmistakable.

https://www.topspeed.com/cars/car-news/ ... 46303.html

[O Really]

Opps. Dupe.

[O Really]

Had a friend back then who had a '70 Road Runner. Don't think it was the 440, though, but it was a fun car with a lot of go. Meanwhile during the same time, I was driving an MG-B.
Like this one...

[Vrede too]

Nothing worse than a dead Camaro. Hell, that guy must have been a nut and somehow otherwise distinctive; everybody in the story kept repeating how they thought "who is this guy". Hilarious. Camaro dude goes all the way to the Northwest Territory with his nutty Air Force decals; and goes over the high side with native fauna. When they all gathered round to observe the debacle they were probably still saying "who the fuck is this guy?". It should have been on tv with "no collusion, no obstruction" billboards in the background.

That was before the bison-slaughtering wreck, followed by 'What the fuck is wrong with this guy?' just before the wreck and finally 'Where the fuck is this guy?'

There was no one inside.

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Plymouth had …. uh … let’s say “nerve.” The company’s resounding message in the case of the Hemi ’Cuda was: “Damn the insurance company torpedos— full speed ahead!” The car tested out like a rocketship, as you’ll see in the performance figures at the end of this essay. As Chrysler maven Cliff Gromer’s Mopar Muscle magazine put it, “The new E-bodies offered a home for ol’ King Kong hisself—the 426 Hemi.”

When the redesigned 1970 Plymouth Barracuda came to the muscle-car market, there would be no excuses for not putting a big engine in the gaping crater under its wide hood. Design engineers had stretched the car sideways by more than 5 inches and increased both the front and rear tracks by 3 inches. As a result, any Chrysler Corporation engine would fit in the engine bay, right up to the street version of the “Monster Masher” racing power plant—the 426-cid Hemi.

Hemi Cudas, particularly the convertibles, definitely fall into the “Holy Grail” category when it comes to American muscle cars. Only 652 1970 Hemi Cuda hardtops were built, and just 14 convertibles were sold in the U.S. market (three were also built for sale in Canada, and one other convertible was sent overseas).

The Mopar Hemi cars were about as good as it got during the Golden Age of muscle cars, and the 1970 Hemi Cuda was certainly one of fiercest. Today, it is one of the rarest and most coveted.

http://www.oldcarsweekly.com/car-of-the ... _hemi_cuda

[O Really]

Here ya' go, CAT...

Fastest American Muscle Cars of The 60s and 70s

https://yeahmotor.com/cars/fastest-amer ... ars/1/?v=2

[billy.pilgrim]

Had a friend back then who had a '70 Road Runner. Don't think it was the 440, though, but it was a fun car with a lot of go. Meanwhile during the same time, I was driving an MG-B.
Like this one...

damn, me too - 69 B

[O Really]

Had a friend back then who had a '70 Road Runner. Don't think it was the 440, though, but it was a fun car with a lot of go. Meanwhile during the same time, I was driving an MG-B.
Like this one...

damn, me too - 69 B

Mine was a 70, like the one in the pic. Once I got rid of as much Lucas electrics as I could, such as the fuel pump, got the shitty clutch hydrolics replaced, it ended up a pretty good car. Had to get the BRG paint re-done in a couple of years as it chalked up badly. Still, drove it for close to 7 years for a lot of miles, plus some rallies and gymkhanas. Would get hauled off to jail now for what seemed normal at the time, like putting the baby and the dog in a porta-crib in the back and cruising top-down.

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Here ya' go, CAT...

Fastest American Muscle Cars of The 60s and 70s

https://yeahmotor.com/cars/fastest-amer ... ars/1/?v=2

The Shelby Cobra was fast but it had very little room for Saturday cruise night.

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Chevrolet’s Central Office Production Order (COPO) system was designed for fleet sales; it was intended to spec out heavy-duty suspensions for cop cars and stain-proof interiors for taxicabs. But enterprising dealers with the right connections, such as Yenko Chevrolet in Pennsylvania, figured out that Camaros could be ordered this way, too. And given the right order codes, the dealer could spec out a fire-breathing monster of a Camaro that Chevy didn’t really want you to own.

The production order 9561 specified a 427 big-block V-8 rated at 425 hp—just like a Vette. But the even rarer COPO 9560 called for an all-aluminum ZL-1 427 V-8. Though this engine was rated with just 5 more hp, it was widely known that this race-spec engine delivered more like 550 hp. Only 69 ZL-1 Camaros were built, and these cars command prices in the $400,000 range at an auction

Little-Known Fact: The aluminum ZL-1 427 V-8 in the 9560 COPO Camaro is essentially a race engine. Chevy originally developed this 427 motor for the Chaparral racing team to use in the Can Am series. There are no external emblems on a ZL-1 Camaro that let you know what’s under the hood—only plain-vanilla Camaro badges.

The Incredible Hulk of Muscle Cars. Don’t make it Angry!

http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/g7 ... scle-cars/

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The Boss of Bosses – 1969 Mustang Boss 429 - As with all muscle cars, the heart of the Boss 429 was the engine. Everything about the 429 was huge. The intake ports and large-diameter valves were large enough to keep these engines spinning up to 8,000 rpm. The intakes measured 2.28 inches and the exhaust valves were 1.90 inches in diameter. The mammoth hemispherical cylinder heads and rocker covers were aluminum (early versions were magnesium). The crankshaft was a forged-steel unit, which was statically and dynamically balanced. This engine was rated at 375 horsepower but that number was not even close to its potential.

Ford used a Holley 735cfm carburetor mounted on an aluminum intake manifold. Engineers designed the cylinder heads without gaskets. Ford called this the “dry-deck” method. Instead, an individual rubber O-ring was used for each of the 21 oil and water passages inside each cylinder head. Another four stainless steel O-rings sealed the combustion chamber. A forged steel crankshaft spun in a four-bolt main bearing block. Despite the performance potential of these rare engines, Ford had to install the Thermactor pollution-control system. Other than “Boss 429” decals on the front fenders and a huge, manually controlled air scoop that sealed to the top of the air cleaner, there were no other emblems to show this was a special car. The 1969 cars, like our feature car, had dual front pipes leading to two “bullet” type resonators, that led to a single transverse muffler and into two turn-down tips. The battery was trunk mounted to improve weight distribution. Unlike the 1970 Boss 429s, the ’69 version does not have a rev limiter.

https://www.hemmings.com/blog/article/t ... -boss-429/

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"The Judge"

Pontiac altered the GTO’s styling for 1970, giving it a new Endura nose with exposed headlamps, bodyside creases, and a revised rump. Underhood, a newly optional 360-bhp 455-cid V-8 provided 500 lb-ft of torque at just 3100 rpm, perfect for the option-laden, luxury tourers many Pontiac GTOs had become. However, the 1970 Pontiac GTO Judge was all about unbridled muscle car performance. The 455 was off its docket until the last quarter of the model year, when it became available via special order. Most got the 366-bhp 400-cid Ram Air III mill. The extra-cost 370-bhp Ram Air IV was installed in a relative handful.

Few muscle cars made a bolder visual statement than the 1970 Pontiac GTO Judge. “The Judge” decals returned, multihued stripes appeared over the bodyside creases, and the 60-inch rear wing now stood high and proud on the tail. Some Judges also got a matte-black fiberglass chin spoiler. Orbit-Orange remained an exclusive Judge color and was teamed with combination blue/orange/pink stripes. “The Judge,” observed Road Test magazine, “is not for people who are shy about being looked at.”

But there was no shortage of substance here. Both 400-cid V-8s came with functional hood scoops (an underdash knob controlled air flow). Pontiac finally made a rear sway bar standard and sharpened handling further with a beefier front bar, softer springs, and revised shock valving. The introduction of variable-ratio power steering also improved response.

https://musclecars.howstuffworks.com/cl ... -judge.htm

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1970 Oldsmobile 442 – Ultimate Olds

A 442 At Its Finest

If you took every great Oldsmobile ever made, stacked them up in order of awesomeness, then took an elevator all the way to the top floor, when you climbed out you would be looking at the ’70 4-4-2 W-30 convertible with a four-speed transmission. It’s the pinnacle muscle car that makes devotees of the brand from Lansing go weak in the knees.

It’s got it all the good stuff: top-option big-block engine, movie star style, torque for days, rarity, great supporting options, mystique … Is there anything else?

https://www.hotrod.com/articles/1970-ol ... nvertible/

[Vrede too]

I have a 99 Z28 Camaro that I've had for about twelve years. I get compliments on it on a regular basis. It will go like hell, has the LS1 engine, six speed, t top. I've driven it at speeds well over 100mph on interstate highways and it seemed to have plenty more to go. It is hard to get in and out of though but fun to drive....

What we know about the suspect in the Virginia Beach shooting that killed 12

... Howerin said Craddock had a deep love for his cars, which along with the Subaru included a silver Camaro....

Nttawwt . . . really, I mean it, nothing at all.

[neoplacebo]

I have a 99 Z28 Camaro that I've had for about twelve years. I get compliments on it on a regular basis. It will go like hell, has the LS1 engine, six speed, t top. I've driven it at speeds well over 100mph on interstate highways and it seemed to have plenty more to go. It is hard to get in and out of though but fun to drive....

What we know about the suspect in the Virginia Beach shooting that killed 12

... Howerin said Craddock had a deep love for his cars, which along with the Subaru included a silver Camaro....

Nttawwt . . . really, I mean it, nothing at all.

Well, I myself have never had a Japanese car, only American (even though the Camaro was made in Canada) and German (a lot of which are built by Turkish immigrant workers except for the Porsche factory). As for having deep love for a car, I can't say I'm in that box either; in fact, I will sometimes use vile language and threats directed to my car, especially if something isn't working right.

[O Really]

Well, I myself have never had a Japanese car, only American (even though the Camaro was made in Canada)

I believe when actual location of assembly as well as manufacture of parts and purchase of components is tallied, Toyota is the most "American" car currently built.

[neoplacebo]

Well, I myself have never had a Japanese car, only American (even though the Camaro was made in Canada)

I believe when actual location of assembly as well as manufacture of parts and purchase of components is tallied, Toyota is the most "American" car currently built.

Yes, you're right. Hardly any car these days can claim any sort of national pedigree. I suppose I just continue to refer to them in the traditional way, when American cars were made here.....nostalgic, but silly. I remember when the first little Honda and Toyota cars started showing up here. They were made in Japan in factories that Americans helped them build and operate. In fact, a guy named Deming had developed quality control concepts that he was unable to convince American manufacturers to adopt so he went to Japan and they adopted his ideas. The rest is history.

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I have a 99 Z28 Camaro that I've had for about twelve years. I get compliments on it on a regular basis. It will go like hell, has the LS1 engine, six speed, t top. I've driven it at speeds well over 100mph on interstate highways and it seemed to have plenty more to go. It is hard to get in and out of though but fun to drive....

What we know about the suspect in the Virginia Beach shooting that killed 12

... Howerin said Craddock had a deep love for his cars, which along with the Subaru included a silver Camaro....

I keep twelve handguns, seven long guns, a crossbow, two small cannon, and an old Vietnam era M16 with the grenade launcher attachment in my car.

Mistaken identity, Neo.

Don't get excited billy, incorrect model.

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The Fourth Generation Camaro - It was the last original Camaro Chevy made, and it had so much potential.

The Camaro that appeared in 1993 borrowed the "Corvette Indy" concept-car styling and married it to an absolutely first-class powertrain. The facelifted 1998 model raised the ante with the all-aluminum LS1 engine from the Corvette. It was supposedly detuned from the 'Vette, but the detuning didn't go any farther than the brochure. You couldn't buy a faster car for the money, and there were precious few cars that could beat it at any price whatsoever. GM's decision to let the fourth-gen Camaro wither and die shortly after this convertible was built probably ranks as one of the worst crimes ever committed against domestic automotive enthusiasts. A fifth-gen car along the same lines—sleek, sporty, uniquely GM—would have been absolutely brilliant.

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-cultur ... st-camaro/

The 99' LS1 & the 02' 35th Anniversary Edition LS1 were closely comparable.