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Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 7:35 am
Found:
I have 100,000 reasons for voting for Biden.
Ouch.
Or 200,000 before election day.

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O Really wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 11:36 am
Or 200,000 before election day.
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New COVID-19 hot spots emerge across the U.S.: Here's what you need to know

Alabama :o
Arkansas
California :o
North Carolina Crap
Virginia
Wisconsin
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Nothing to do specifically with Coronavirus, but interesting nonetheless:

"The countries with the best value healthcare in the world revealed"

US is
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Not in the top 30
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstor ... hp#image=1

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O Really wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 3:29 pm
Nothing to do specifically with Coronavirus, but interesting nonetheless:

"The countries with the best value healthcare in the world revealed"

US is
Spoiler:
Not in the top 30
https://www.msn.com/en-ca/money/topstor ... hp#image=1
Ugh, I was too optimistic by 14.


Counties in Florida, Iowa worry CDC as emerging coronavirus 'areas of concern'

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Crap. Let's all go hang out at neoplacebo's and Whack9's. O Really, out of the frying pan . . .
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Crap. Let's all go hang out at neoplacebo's and Whack9's. O Really, out of the frying pan . . .
Not really - if you look up there in the northeast section of WA close to the borders of Canada and Crazyland, it's gray. But that may be because there aren't enough people here to get a darker color.

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Not really - if you look up there in the northeast section of WA close to the borders of Canada and Crazyland, it's gray. But that may be because there aren't enough people here to get a darker color.
Yeah, I know, it's just odd that WA is now worse than CA. Nobody lives where WA is dark, either, so I'm guessing their ranking is proportional to the total population. Stay safe.
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O Really wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:38 pm
Not really - if you look up there in the northeast section of WA close to the borders of Canada and Crazyland, it's gray. But that may be because there aren't enough people here to get a darker color.
Yeah, I know, it's just odd that WA is now worse than CA. Nobody lives where WA is dark, either, so I'm guessing their ranking is proportional to the total population. Stay safe.
The lower dark blob is around the "Tri-cities" area and Yakima, which has had a couple of factory-type clusters lately. The top dark blob is mostly a rez, where the virus has been somewhat running amock among first nation people. But considering the start back in Kirkland early in the year and the resultant Seattle area mess, the state has actually done pretty well. Mask compliance isn't very high, but it's not mandatory here. I wish the stores would enforce a "no shirt no shoes no mask no service" rule.

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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Wed Jun 03, 2020 10:38 pm
Not really - if you look up there in the northeast section of WA close to the borders of Canada and Crazyland, it's gray. But that may be because there aren't enough people here to get a darker color.
Yeah, I know, it's just odd that WA is now worse than CA. Nobody lives where WA is dark, either, so I'm guessing their ranking is proportional to the total population. Stay safe.
The lower dark blob is around the "Tri-cities" area and Yakima, which has had a couple of factory-type clusters lately. The top dark blob is mostly a rez, where the virus has been somewhat running amock among first nation people. But considering the start back in Kirkland early in the year and the resultant Seattle area mess, the state has actually done pretty well. Mask compliance isn't very high, but it's not mandatory here. I wish the stores would enforce a "no shirt no shoes no mask no service" rule.
:D Looks like I'm relatively safe in the gray area I inhabit. They have county statistics for the area around here on the news each night and of the eight or so counties they show on their map, virus cases are all in the single digits except Unicoi, the last TN county before NC. But then again, the local media is owned by Sinclair so I always take what they say with that in mind. And I also take comfort in the fact that "Sinclair" used to be a brand of gasoline around here that did not survive for one reason or another. Their symbol was a dinosaur.

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Trump praises success against coronavirus in states that are seeing cases spike (Georgia, Florida, South Carolina)

Opps.
... Earlier this week, DeSantis made a bid for Florida to host the Republican National Convention, after plans to hold it in North Carolina were scrapped, following a dispute over social-distancing measures between the party and the state’s Democratic governor....
That sounds like a move is a done deal.
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Sorry, billy.pilgrim, maybe.
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Trump is determined to have nothing less than a super-spreader event. Biggest super-spreader event ever held. You've never seen such a super-spreader event. We'll have an incredible amount of spreading. People say our spreading is unbelievable. I can tell you our event will be bigger and spread more than Obama ever thought of.

On a less frivolous note: of all the things one can do and places one can go, a big group indoor meeting, without masks and distancing would be the highest risk outside of a covid ward in a hospital.

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Fri Jun 05, 2020 2:43 pm
Trump is determined to have nothing less than a super-spreader event. Biggest super-spreader event ever held. You've never seen such a super-spreader event. We'll have an incredible amount of spreading. People say our spreading is unbelievable. I can tell you our event will be bigger and spread more than Obama ever thought of.

On a less frivolous note: of all the things one can do and places one can go, a big group indoor meeting, without masks and distancing would be the highest risk outside of a covid ward in a hospital.
It will be a "super-duper" spreader event.
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So what could be done if one wanted a big free range crowd? I suppose you could test everybody who would be attending and keep them quarantined while the results come in and time the testing to be immediately before the convention. But they'd all have to get there early, because they couldn't fly in or make any overnight stops on a drive. But out of 7,000 or so people, not including the venue staff, drivers, hotel staff, restaurant/catering people, security people...what are the chances nobody - nobody - has the virus?

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Protests, trump rally, hair salons, schools, bars and parties -
with this kind of important shit going on, who gonna worry about some damn virus.

Over the past 3 days, Florida has broken 3 records for new cases - we put our reopening to work

On the bright side, Florida is long and skinny and nearly all the cases are 400 to 700 miles away from me.


https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 13417.html

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Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:26 pm
Protests, trump rally, hair salons, schools, bars and parties -
with this kind of important shit going on, who gonna worry about some damn virus.

Over the past 3 days, Florida has broken 3 records for new cases - we put our reopening to work

On the bright side, Florida is long and skinny and nearly all the cases are 400 to 700 miles away from me.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 13417.html
Alabama Tops 1,000 New COVID-19 Cases In One Day
Just two days after reporting a record number of new COVID-19 cases, Alabama sets another daily record for new cases.


Opps.

Not that I'm provincially bragging. NC still sucks and I'm not sure why. Also, Henderson County is the worst in WNC, though my MD says it's due to the huge number of elder care facilities here.
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But there's really no way to know how many total cases there are, right? The ones listed as "confirmed" come only from the group that has been tested and found positive. So out of the bunch tested, you've got 90% who maybe felt bad enough to get tested, or were maybe tested because the work in a nursing home or somewhere. But you've also got people who (a) theoretically have the virus without symptoms; and (b) feel marginally under the weather but don't get tested. That would seem maybe to be a lot of people, wandering around spreading their germs.

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Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:59 pm
But there's really no way to know how many total cases there are, right? The ones listed as "confirmed" come only from the group that has been tested and found positive. So out of the bunch tested, you've got 90% who maybe felt bad enough to get tested, or were maybe tested because the work in a nursing home or somewhere. But you've also got people who (a) theoretically have the virus without symptoms; and (b) feel marginally under the weather but don't get tested. That would seem maybe to be a lot of people, wandering around spreading their germs.
I consider hospitalizations and deaths to be better gauges of how a state is doing. However, positive tests adjusted for the numbers being tested have some usefulness to the scientists.
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O Really wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:59 pm
But there's really no way to know how many total cases there are, right? The ones listed as "confirmed" come only from the group that has been tested and found positive. So out of the bunch tested, you've got 90% who maybe felt bad enough to get tested, or were maybe tested because the work in a nursing home or somewhere. But you've also got people who (a) theoretically have the virus without symptoms; and (b) feel marginally under the weather but don't get tested. That would seem maybe to be a lot of people, wandering around spreading their germs.
I consider hospitalizations and deaths to be better gauges of how a state is doing. However, positive tests adjusted for the numbers being tested have some usefulness to the scientists.
Agreed, but if you knew, for example, that everyone with the virus showed severe symptoms and required hospitalization, then you could release a lot of restrictions in places that don't have any. But since that's not the case, you have to assume that everybody you walk past could be a carrier.

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Agreed, but if you knew, for example, that everyone with the virus showed severe symptoms and required hospitalization, then you could release a lot of restrictions in places that don't have any. But since that's not the case, you have to assume that everybody you walk past could be a carrier.
For safety purposes for decades we've assumed that every one had HIV, Hep, etc. Hence, gloves for anything involving body fluids, more if splatter was possible. I can only imagine what 'universal precautions' look like now, but I wouldn't like it.
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:41 pm
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:26 pm
Protests, trump rally, hair salons, schools, bars and parties -
with this kind of important shit going on, who gonna worry about some damn virus.

Over the past 3 days, Florida has broken 3 records for new cases - we put our reopening to work

On the bright side, Florida is long and skinny and nearly all the cases are 400 to 700 miles away from me.

https://www.miamiherald.com/news/corona ... 13417.html
Alabama Tops 1,000 New COVID-19 Cases In One Day
Just two days after reporting a record number of new COVID-19 cases, Alabama sets another daily record for new cases.


Opps.

Not that I'm provincially bragging. NC still sucks and I'm not sure why. Also, Henderson County is the worst in WNC, though my MD says it's due to the huge number of elder care facilities here.
Doesn't Florida have a larger percentage of old people than Maryland? Hell, we've got whole cities of old people.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Sat Jun 13, 2020 1:41 pm
... Not that I'm provincially bragging. NC still sucks and I'm not sure why. Also, Henderson County is the worst in WNC, though my MD says it's due to the huge number of elder care facilities here.
Doesn't Florida have a larger percentage of old people than Maryland? Hell, we've got whole cities of old people.
"MD" there stands for doctor. Idk how Maryland is doing, though I know that its GOP Gov was aggressive with the SIYFH orders and even exchanged words with PINO over it. Maryland hasn't been home for me for 45 years.

"Florida contains the highest percentage of people over 65 (17%) in the US."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Florida

Idk what the figure is for MD.

Blacks have been hit very hard by CV-19 and Maryland is 30% Black compared to Florida's 16%. I believe that Latinos have also been affected worse than Whites.

"49.5% of Maryland's population is non-white and/or Hispanic/Latino, the highest percentage of any state on the East Coast and the highest percentage after the majority minority states of Hawaii, New Mexico, Texas, California and Nevada."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maryland

53.5% of Florida is "White alone, not Hispanic or Latino".

So, age tends to make Florida relatively susceptible while race makes Maryland more susceptible.
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