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OK, so I know not many if any here are racing fans, but this looks silly to me. Nascar is going to start running a schedule this coming Sunday 5/17 in Darlington SC. Here's what they say about moving scheduled races:
• Chicagoland’s NASCAR Cup Series race — originally set for June 21 — has been reassigned to Darlington on May 17. The 1.5-mile Illinois track’s Xfinity Series race that was scheduled June 20 will be held May 19 at Darlington. Chicagoland was also set to host the Gander RV & Outdoors Truck Series (June 19) and ARCA Menards Series (June 18); officials indicated those races will be reassigned at a later date.

• Richmond Raceway’s springtime Cup Series event on the initial schedule for April 19 has been moved to Darlington on May 20. A Gander RV & Outdoors Truck Series race that was to be run April 18 remains postponed, with officials saying details would come later for rescheduling. The .75-mile Virginia track’s Sept. 11-12 race weekend remains on the schedule.

• Sonoma Raceway’s Cup Series date for June 14 has been moved to Charlotte on May 27. Officials for the road course said in a release they had worked with NASCAR to find an alternate date on the schedule, but a suitable replacement could not be reached, “given the ongoing uncertainty around large events in California.”
Here's what's silly: In each race, there are unique characteristics of the track or location that makes the race different from others. Some tracks are high-banked; some are flat. Distances range from about a half-mile with really tight corners in Martinsville to 2.5 miles with big sweeping high banked turns at Daytona, and 2 miles of very wide low banks at Michigan. A race at a short track isn't anything at all like a race on a long one, except that they all still turn left.

So when you "move" the Chicago race to Darlington, you're changing from a 1.5 mile tri-oval to a a 1.3 mile narrow high bank with different banking in various corners and it's own legacy of leaving cars with a "Darlington stripe" from how often they hit the wall. And "moving" the Sonoma race from a track that is a real road course, with something like 12 turns, hills, etc. and moving it to Charlotte for their pretend "roval" isn't even close.

Are they "moving" a race, or just scrapping races in Chicago, Richmond, and Sonoma and putting in new races at different tracks? It doesn't really matter to me, and maybe to nobody else, but if they think races are that interchangeable, and they aren't going to have fans anyway, why not just have a race every weekend at Charlotte and everybody gets to stay home.

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There is no purity of racing. Only $$.

Not that I care.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
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There is no purity of racing. Only $$.

Not that I care.
Yeah, way back when they started garbaging up every sentence with sponsor names should have been a clue of what's to come. When the Nascar cars were in fact "stock"-ish, the slogan was "win on Sunday, sell on Monday." That idea extended on past the car make to the product names plastered on the car, its driver, the crew, etc. If the "Valvoline Ford" won a race, people would ostensibly buy more Fords, and buy Valvoline oil for them. Somewhere along the line, the whole thing got out of hand - the oversize slot cars running on Sunday aren't remotely like real cars you can buy; sponsor names got so ubiquitous they weren't even closely associated with a particular driver, and drivers generally lost their personalities and simply learned standard sponsor-laden phrases to be repeated while posing for the meaningless "stand on the car window, put on a sponsor hat and hold up a product" photo.

Too bad.

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O Really wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 10:14 am
GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed May 13, 2020 1:50 am
There is no purity of racing. Only $$.

Not that I care.
Yeah, way back when they started garbaging up every sentence with sponsor names should have been a clue of what's to come. When the Nascar cars were in fact "stock"-ish, the slogan was "win on Sunday, sell on Monday." That idea extended on past the car make to the product names plastered on the car, its driver, the crew, etc. If the "Valvoline Ford" won a race, people would ostensibly buy more Fords, and buy Valvoline oil for them. Somewhere along the line, the whole thing got out of hand - the oversize slot cars running on Sunday aren't remotely like real cars you can buy; sponsor names got so ubiquitous they weren't even closely associated with a particular driver, and drivers generally lost their personalities and simply learned standard sponsor-laden phrases to be repeated while posing for the meaningless "stand on the car window, put on a sponsor hat and hold up a product" photo.

Too bad.
And the Ford, Chevy, Dodge whatever care aren't what they advertise. They are all the same cars with different badging.

Complete bullshit.
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O Really wrote:
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OK, so I know not many if any here are racing fans, but this looks silly to me....
Is it really racing if there's no chance that redneck spectators will have to scatter to avoid flying shrapnel?
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Vrede too wrote:
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O Really wrote:
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OK, so I know not many if any here are racing fans, but this looks silly to me....
Is it really racing if there's no chance that redneck spectators will have to scatter to avoid flying shrapnel?
Yeah, well that's just something else wrong with current racing. You don't get much of that anymore since they put in the taller stronger catch fences.

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Actually I was pretty dialed into racing in the 80's and 90's. Mainly motorcycle: AMA and FIM. Even was one of the early digital reporters. On an unrelated business trip to Japan, got to attend an FIM race at Suzuka. The AMA and FIM races at Laguna Seca were fun, as well as the local club and national races at Sears Point. Also did Bike Week at Daytona one year. Road races at Road America another year. Texas too. Got into classic cars mid-90's, and attended a race or two down at Laguna Seca. But haven't been to any races in the new century. And since I cut cable don't even see it much on TV any more. Maybe I'll attend more races in future.
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So Nascar has run a couple of races, and as of now are pretty much the only live sports on TV. Got the whole show to themselves. Time to show off, try to get new fans or win back old fans who lost interest. Boogity boogity boogity. So where is the only place to find them on TV? FoxSports1. :roll:

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O Really wrote:
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So Nascar has run a couple of races, and as of now are pretty much the only live sports on TV. Got the whole show to themselves. Time to show off, try to get new fans or win back old fans who lost interest. Boogity boogity boogity. So where is the only place to find them on TV? FoxSports1. :roll:
My mother hated Fox News and the Murdochs so much that she would not watch anything on the Fox broadcast channel, even when I tried to tell her that it had some of the most progressive shows out there. I feel the same about FoxSports. I'm there for the sport - not NASCAR! - and don't really care who's showing it. It's not like other media conglomerates are any better when the comparisons aren't among news channels.
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You may have missed my point of view. I don't have a problem with FS1 per se - it's got little if any relationship to the Faux Noise people. But its' a cable-sat channel that's not on everybody's TV. Seems like they would have been able to get a wider coverage since they're close to the only live show around. F'rinstance, broadcast Fox is showing NFL re-runs in the same time slot. Hard to believe they wouldn't be better off showing the race.

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You may have missed my point of view. I don't have a problem with FS1 per se - it's got little if any relationship to the Faux Noise people. But its' a cable-sat channel that's not on everybody's TV. Seems like they would have been able to get a wider coverage since they're close to the only live show around. F'rinstance, broadcast Fox is showing NFL re-runs in the same time slot. Hard to believe they wouldn't be better off showing the race.
Ah, my bad :oops: , sorry. I still like mentioning Mom's Faux-hatred. ;)

Idk, but it may have to do with contracts that were signed long ago, or with giving FS1 some viewers when broadcast Fox doesn't really need them. Plus, I THINK that FS1 and Fox are completely different News Corp entities. Maybe sharing between them isn't simple?
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Yeah, I don't care - I haven't actually watched a Nascar race in years other than maybe a tivoed fast version of Daytona or something. But I might have watched this one just because it is the only fresh sports on an afternoon unsuitable for outdoor activey. I like highlight films, but I'm not nearly desperate enough to watch an entire re-run of a football game.

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Yeah, I don't care - I haven't actually watched a Nascar race in years other than maybe a tivoed fast version of Daytona or something. But I might have watched this one just because it is the only fresh sports on an afternoon unsuitable for outdoor activey. I like highlight films, but I'm not nearly desperate enough to watch an entire re-run of a football game.
Otoh, maybe you're sorta correct, most people are like us, and it really is just that NFL re-runs get more viewers than live NASCAR. :D After all, it was the Iggles almost beating the Pats in 2005. At least play happens in different directions.
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O Really wrote:
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Yeah, I don't care - I haven't actually watched a Nascar race in years other than maybe a tivoed fast version of Daytona or something. But I might have watched this one just because it is the only fresh sports on an afternoon unsuitable for outdoor activey. I like highlight films, but I'm not nearly desperate enough to watch an entire re-run of a football game.
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A few other tracks had ceremonies, including Indianapolis. That'd be sooooo cool. Who needs a stodgy ceremony in an auditorium/stadium? Graduates, start your engines!

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