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Re: Local Pols
To: governor.office@nc.gov,Chuck.McGrady@ncleg.net
CC: Toma@ncleg.net
Dear Rep. McGrady & Governor McCrory,
Re: Apodaca wants 6 Asheville City Council districts
http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news ... /85870756/
Please oppose Sen. Apodaca's transparent scheme to force a voting change upon Asheville.
Of course, it's not really about "representation". Nothing in Apodaca's mindlessly partisan, gerrymandering, voter suppressing, democracy hating history suggest that he gives a hoot about the principle of representation. Rather, this is a sleazy and shameful attempt to use the Leg. and Governor's office to exclusively benefit the GOP. This is why his bill isn't statewide and doesn't even include my Hendersonville, which he also represents.
Don't get me wrong, I like district representation and hope that the people of Asheville and Hendersonville eventually adopt it. With it, candidates do lots more door knocking and neighborhood meetings while relying less on slates, branding, fundraising and mass advertising. Then, the elected pols do a better job of representing the particular needs of their neighbor-constituents, rather than the city-wide power structure.
So, please kill Apodaca's plot unless it's put to a vote of the people of Asheville OR it's imposed upon all cities in the state, thus advantaging and disadvantaging the GOP equally.
Sincerely,
cc: Sen. Apodaca
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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Re: Local Pols
I had a several email exchange with Chuck McGrady over this. He basically told me that objections were not his concern since it was a "local bill", even though local Leg. Dems opposed it, that he would vote for it and that it was certain to pass, kind of a Pontius Pilate partisan defense.
Good, it's sweet that S 897 [Asheville City Council Districts] flopped after my arguing at length with Chuck McGrady over it and that it was also somehow the cause of the precipitous adjournment, but still :-0?> .Subject: General Assembly Bulletin July 2, 2016
From: Rep. Chuck McGrady <McGradyla@ncleg.net>
A Peculiar Ending
A few minutes before midnight last night, the General Assembly’s Short Session came to an end. It was a peculiar ending in that a local bill relating to the redistricting of the Asheville City Council seemed to trigger the legislature to just fold up its tent and go home....
My predictions about what would happen at the end were mostly correct, with one major exception.
Regulatory Reform. The surprise of the session, in terms of bills that didn’t pass, was the failure of the legislature to pass any regulatory reform bills. There were a host of such bills, H 169 [Regulatory Reduction Act of 2016], S 303 [Regulatory Reform Act of 2016], H 593 [Amend Environmental & Other Laws] and H 763 [Military Operations Protection Act of 2016], that were being considered by a conference committee. At a committee meeting that ended at nearly 1:30am on the last day of the session, it seemed that the conferees were close to agreement. All but a handful of issues were resolved, leaving House conferees sharply divided over an provision relating to the internet sale of alcohol by distilleries, with House conferees not fully supportive of a compromise on repeal of the ban on electronic devices in landfills, and no agreement on a new law regulating the installation of wind farms in the potential flight paths of military aircraft.
Being one of the conferees, I went to bed on the last morning expecting that those issues would be resolved and we’d pass another broad regulatory reform bill. It didn’t happen. Support for specific language related to wind farms and the military were late developing. The electronic recycling provision was controversial in the House, and many legislators, both Republicans and Democrats, just didn’t want to take up that issue feeling that it was a Long Session issue. Any legislation relating to alcohol is always controversial in the House, and some Republican Members just didn’t want to vote on the issue as part of a large, regulatory reform bill.
The Senate understandably felt that it had agreed to most of the House’s regulatory reform provisions and had made compromises in its proposals. When the House rejected two relatively minor bills put forward by senior senators, S 897 [ Asheville City Council Districts] put forward by the Senate Rules Chairman, Senator Tom Apodaca (R-Hendersonville] and S 46 [Jacksonville Occupancy Tax] put forward by the Senate Majority Leader, Senator Harry Brown (R-Onslow), further negotiations on the three outstanding issues simply didn’t occur. The Senate refused to respond to a House offer to resolve one issue in the Senate’s favor, wind; to resolve one issue in the House’s favor, electronic recycling; and put the remaining issue in a separate bill to be voted up or down in the House, alcohol.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
I could maybe - maybe - see some Republican guy from some little down east town voting for the Asheville districting bill just because Apodaca wanted it. I can't see anybody from Charlotte, Triad, Triangle, even Wilmington doing so without at least thinking, "he's screwing over the city...wonder if it could happen to me." But McGrady lives here. He knows it was a shit bill, and he knows the entire city council (who were, after all, elected to run the city) opposed it. He isn't going to have to deal with Apodaca anymore anyway. For him to vote for it is despicable. Not that I'm surprised.
(Good letter, BTW)
(Good letter, BTW)
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Thanks. Yeah, McGrady was much more independent when he first arrived in the Leg. Though his comms with constituents are still the best I've ever seen, it's been disappointing watching him steadily become more sleazily partisan each session as he accrues more power.
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"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
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1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
No sleazy partisanship, no accrual of power. It's not like the two are unrelated.
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Yeah, I suspect he got spanked for at times being independent. Still no excuse.
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
The reason things ran as well as they did during the 140 years of Democratic majority in NC is that the Democratic Party was indeed a big tent, encompassing many from right to left with a bunch in the middle. And there were a lot of issues that most everybody agreed with to some degree. So the state had a world-class university system, good roads, decent public schools with decent teachers paid middle-of-the-road, yada. Nobody could push through bills that were totally batshit crazy because they couldn't get the votes. And nobody - even the old-style Republicans - held as their top priority simply voting against the other side. Republican Governor Holshouser did a generally fine job, without being constantly bashed just for existing.
Contrast that to the current crop of Republican loons, who find solutions where there were no problems, just because the Dems did it (whatever "it" is).
Who drive their legislation by political vengeance and payback for personal issues. Who pass laws everyone knows (and tells them) are going to get overturned in court. Etc.
I hope they all get Zika bit and have gay bi-racial grandkids.
Contrast that to the current crop of Republican loons, who find solutions where there were no problems, just because the Dems did it (whatever "it" is).
Who drive their legislation by political vengeance and payback for personal issues. Who pass laws everyone knows (and tells them) are going to get overturned in court. Etc.
I hope they all get Zika bit and have gay bi-racial grandkids.
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"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Asheville gets big win in NC Supreme Court ruling on water debate
Screw you, Apodaca, Moffitt and McGrady.
Screw you, Apodaca, Moffitt and McGrady.
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"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
The vote was 5-2 despite the 4-3 GOP majority (will be 4-3 Dem in Jan.).
This, the HB2 fiasco and national ridicule over the "coup" - not a proud 2 weeks for the NC GOP.
This, the HB2 fiasco and national ridicule over the "coup" - not a proud 2 weeks for the NC GOP.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
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Re: Local Pols
It's baaack:
State legislator moves to force Asheville’s hand on district elections
New version of my letter above sent to Rep. McGrady, Governor Cooper, and democracy hating Sen. Apodaca Chuck Edwards.
State legislator moves to force Asheville’s hand on district elections
New version of my letter above sent to Rep. McGrady, Governor Cooper, and democracy hating Sen. Apodaca Chuck Edwards.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
Ick, here in Hooterville the mayor is unopposed and I have reason to not like each of the 4 city council candidates vying for the 2 slots. So, this will be one of the rare elections that I sit out.
My prediction: The 2 white men will beat the 2 black women.
My prediction: The 2 white men will beat the 2 black women.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
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"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
Below are my primary options. Any advice on which ballot I should choose, then which candidates on it and why for both questions?
Official Democratic Primary Ballot
Henderson County, North Carolina
May 8, 2018
FEDERAL OFFICES
US House of Representatives
District 11
(You may vote for ONE)
Phillip G. Price
Steve Woodsmall
D. Scott Donaldson
COUNTY OFFICES
Board of Commissioners
District 1
(You may vote for ONE)
Patricia (Pat) Sheley
Michelle Antalec
Official Republican Primary Ballot
Henderson County, North Carolina
May 8, 2018
FEDERAL OFFICES
US House of Representatives
District 11
(You may vote for ONE)
Mark Meadows
Chuck Archerd
STATE OFFICES
District Attorney
District 42
(You may vote for ONE)
Mary Ann J. Hollocker
Greg Newman
COUNTY OFFICES
Board of Commissioners
District 4
(You may vote for ONE)
Rebecca McCall
Don Ward
Sheriff
(You may vote for ONE)
Lowell Griffin
Charles McDonald
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Board of Commissioners, District 1, Dem Primary, running against incumbent Republican Mike Edney:
I can't find that either Patricia (Pat) Sheley or Michelle Antalec have websites, and the HT-N coverage sucks. So, fuck 'em.
US House of Representatives, District 11 has been severely gerrymandered to favor the GOP. Kudos to the Dems running, but the primary winner will lose. So, I haven't even looked at which Dem would be better.
So, I'll get a GOP ballot, seems I can have more impact. Unlike some years, there doesn't seem to be opportunity for me to vote for the worst Repug in order to help the Dems in the general.
US House of Representatives, District 11, GOP Primary:
Mark Meadows has been awful.
Chuck Archerd gets my vote by default.
District Attorney, District 42, GOP Primary, no Dem running:
Greg Newman, https://www.facebook.com/DAGregNewman/, incumbent, slimeball
Mary Ann J. Hollocker, https://maryannjhollockerforda.org/ , seems decent for a Repug, she gets my vote
Board of Commissioners, District 4, GOP Primary, no incumbent and no Dem running:
Don Ward, https://www.facebook.com/Elect-DON-WARD ... 189339516/ , ick
Rebecca McCall, https://www.rebeccamccall.com/ , so-so, she gets my vote
Sheriff, GOP Primary, no Dem running:
Charles McDonald has been awful.
Lowell Griffin, https://electlowellgriffin.com/, https://electlowellgriffin.com/the-griffin-difference-1 , interesting resume, typically bad con policy, maybe decent management ideas, he gets my vote
Primary is May 8. So, I have time to change my mind if y'all have a reason for picking the Dem ballot or for picking different Repugs.
I can't find that either Patricia (Pat) Sheley or Michelle Antalec have websites, and the HT-N coverage sucks. So, fuck 'em.
US House of Representatives, District 11 has been severely gerrymandered to favor the GOP. Kudos to the Dems running, but the primary winner will lose. So, I haven't even looked at which Dem would be better.
So, I'll get a GOP ballot, seems I can have more impact. Unlike some years, there doesn't seem to be opportunity for me to vote for the worst Repug in order to help the Dems in the general.
US House of Representatives, District 11, GOP Primary:
Mark Meadows has been awful.
Chuck Archerd gets my vote by default.
District Attorney, District 42, GOP Primary, no Dem running:
Greg Newman, https://www.facebook.com/DAGregNewman/, incumbent, slimeball
Mary Ann J. Hollocker, https://maryannjhollockerforda.org/ , seems decent for a Repug, she gets my vote
Board of Commissioners, District 4, GOP Primary, no incumbent and no Dem running:
Don Ward, https://www.facebook.com/Elect-DON-WARD ... 189339516/ , ick
Rebecca McCall, https://www.rebeccamccall.com/ , so-so, she gets my vote
Sheriff, GOP Primary, no Dem running:
Charles McDonald has been awful.
Lowell Griffin, https://electlowellgriffin.com/, https://electlowellgriffin.com/the-griffin-difference-1 , interesting resume, typically bad con policy, maybe decent management ideas, he gets my vote
Primary is May 8. So, I have time to change my mind if y'all have a reason for picking the Dem ballot or for picking different Repugs.
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-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
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Re: Local Pols
Since your vote isn't going to make much difference anyway, I'd vote for whoever didn't make me barf. Which would eliminate all Repugs.
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Okay, Vox, what have you done with O Really?
Not that I have a problem with eliminating all Repugs , but that would mean not voting at all in 3 races where there will be no Dem in Nov.
Barring revelations of child molestation, goat abuse or consorting with lawyers , I will be pointlessly voting for the Dem candidate for Board of Commissioners, District 1 and the Dem or Libertarian (why not, if the pools aren't close) candidate for US House of Representatives, District 11.
"Iran’s future belongs to free women, not the mullahs.”
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
-- Tehran student, Nov 2024
“There is no hate like Christian love.”
-- Greg McDonald Jr, Summer 2001
1312. ETTD.
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Re: Local Pols
Write yourself in.