Single hurricane thread

[Vrede too]

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "Isle", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else when there's a hurricane headed your way.

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "The South", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else.

Ida: Exclamation point on record onslaught of US landfalls

Too many shocking facts to excerpt.

Still fairly organized. It's our turn in TN, NC and SC for a TD while billy.pilgrim is still getting the remnants.
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/ ... -storm-ida

[Vrede too]

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "Isle", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else when there's a hurricane headed your way.

Louisiana town "uninhabitable" after Ida's destruction

[Vrede too]

Rescue Crews Search Apartment Complex After Deadly Flooding in Rockville, Maryland

Dozens of people were evacuated from apartment buildings in Rockville, Maryland, on Wednesday, September 1, after Tropical Depression Ida brought flash flooding to the greater Washington area, the National Hurricane Center said.

A 19-year-old male was found deceased and one resident remained unaccounted for as of Wednesday morning, according to Montgomery County Police. Four people, including one firefighter, were transported to local hospitals with non-life-threatening injuries, police said.

According to police, around 150 residents were displaced by the flooding while 50 apartments were impacted and about 12 apartments were flooded....

Within a mile or two of my childhood home. I don't remember there ever being flooding in Rockville.

[GoCubsGo]

Ida ain't done yet.

[neoplacebo]

If not for the storm, I'd blame Don Junior for both of those scenes. Each is a total fuckup just like him.

[Vrede too]

Ida ain't done yet.

NYC - 12" of rain. 1st ever flash flood emergency. I guess Sandy was a storm surge emergency.
NJ - 6 tornadoes.
Flooding in PA and the across the Northeast.
Ida will be tallied as one of the most destructive US storms ever.

[Vrede too]

Contractor is claiming "sabotage"

Poor guy, first god gets him caught up in something clearly not his fault and now some mysterious saboteur(s) is out to make him look bad.

Antifa heard that a local bridge might be named for 45SHOLE, but got confused about which one.

They still haven't repaired the bridge. Claiming late March for a partial reopening.

Turns out that they knew about the storm that they claimed appeared suddenly out of nowhere. They sent the state a request 3 days prior to the storm to extend the completion date because of the impending hurricane.

Plus, they have found some pre-Civil War law that they are claiming exonerates them of liability.

And the judge agrees - although the company had plenty of warning, yet made no attempt to secure the more than 30 barges that caused damages to shut the bridge down completely for nearly a year, they aren't responsible for damages. The barges did it.

https://weartv.com/news/local/tanner-skanska

Louisiana was jealous.


A barge damages a bridge that divides Lafitte, La., and Jean Lafitte, in the aftermath of Hurricane Ida, Monday, Aug. 30, 2021,

It will take a Lafitte of endurance for them to overcome the hassle, but they refuse to be Lafitted.

[Vrede too]

Ida even strengthened from a TD to a TS before hitting NYC, without crossing over water.
https://www.wunderground.com/hurricane/ ... yclone-ida

18 Tweets Showing The Apocalyptic Flooding Happening Right Now In New York City

Henri caused NYC/Northeast flooding, too. One video: "This is what climate change looks like."
3 sample tweets:

[Vrede too]

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "Isle", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else when there's a hurricane headed your way.

Supposedly, 40 people refused to evacuate Grand Isle. Idk how they fared.

Officials Survey Hurricane Damage in Grand Isle, Louisiana (video)

The mayor of Grand Isle, Louisiana, David Camardelle says between 85 and 90 percent of homes and businesses on the island have been “totally destroyed” after Hurricane Ida made landfall on August 29 as a Category 4 storm.

Video shared by Jefferson Parish on September 4 shows Grand Isle Mayor David Camardelle and Councilman at Large Ricky Templet surveying the damage in Grand Isle. The barrier island was deemed “uninhabitable” as an estimated 100 percent of structures in Grand Isle damaged or destroyed, officials said.

Both Camardelle and Templet called for federal support to bolster levee protection in the area, which has been struck by several powerful storms in recent years.

Without knowing the specifics I question why I should subsidize their lifestyle choice.

[O Really]

Without knowing the specifics I question why I should subsidize their lifestyle choice.

The country can't reasonably afford to keep throwing money at places that are clearly doomed. Be better to pay to relocate them, and if they won't move, they're on their own.

[billy.pilgrim]

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "Isle", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else when there's a hurricane headed your way.

Supposedly, 40 people refused to evacuate Grand Isle. Idk how they fared.

Officials Survey Hurricane Damage in Grand Isle, Louisiana (video)

The mayor of Grand Isle, Louisiana, David Camardelle says between 85 and 90 percent of homes and businesses on the island have been “totally destroyed” after Hurricane Ida made landfall on August 29 as a Category 4 storm.

Video shared by Jefferson Parish on September 4 shows Grand Isle Mayor David Camardelle and Councilman at Large Ricky Templet surveying the damage in Grand Isle. The barrier island was deemed “uninhabitable” as an estimated 100 percent of structures in Grand Isle damaged or destroyed, officials said.

Both Camardelle and Templet called for federal support to bolster levee protection in the area, which has been struck by several powerful storms in recent years.

Without knowing the specifics I question why I should subsidize their lifestyle choice.

Flood insurance made things a lot worse in many places.

Because there was no flood insurance, our beach was all small self-insured concrete block structures and owners were ready to evacuate with a pickup load of possessions.
Hurricane prep was mostly the gulf front homes leaving north and south facing doors and windows open to reduce the force of the water. Clean up was shoveling out the sand, or rebuilding the cheap uninsured structure.
Now our beach is covered with multi million dollar homes (insured for $250,000 and mortgaged for millions - explain that) built to FEMA standards.

Since FEMA the rebuilt homes along the gulf front were required to be raised roughly 10 feet after storm damage, leaving the concrete block homes across the street newly exposed to the force of the waves. As these have also received damages and are now on pilings, properties in the next block are now being damaged.

full circle to worse than before

Today the grade level uninsured improvements typically exceed the full FEMA coverage and properties can only be owned by millionaires who increasingly encouraged to walk away from a high mortgage after devastating damages leaves them with millions in damages and only $250,000 in insurance funds.

[billy.pilgrim]

Without knowing the specifics I question why I should subsidize their lifestyle choice.

The country can't reasonably afford to keep throwing money at places that are clearly doomed. Be better to pay to relocate them, and if they won't move, they're on their own.

It was the same on Grande Isle as PB.

[neoplacebo]

40 people refusing to leave an island in the face of a certain hurricane are definitely a religious weather cult. They hang onto trees and poles in hurricanes and sit in the shade and pray and sway in droughts. They are dangerous and stupid.

[billy.pilgrim]

40 people refusing to leave an island in the face of a certain hurricane are definitely a religious weather cult. They hang onto trees and poles in hurricanes and sit in the shade and pray and sway in droughts. They are dangerous and stupid.

I disagree. Fleeing is generally more dangerous than staying in the same home where you have weathered the past 10 or 20 storms.
That said, I have only rarely stayed on a barrier island for a storm.

[Vrede too]

I disagree. Fleeing is generally more dangerous than staying in the same home where you have weathered the past 10 or 20 storms.
That said, I have only rarely stayed on a barrier island for a storm.

Ida was not just any hurricane.

Hurricane Ida was the second-most damaging hurricane to strike the U.S. state of Louisiana on record, behind only Hurricane Katrina, and is tied for the strongest landfall in the state by maximum winds with Hurricane Laura a year prior and the 1856 Last Island hurricane....

An anemometer in Grand Isle recorded a gust of 148 mph (238 km/h) before being destroyed....

Grand Isle was rendered uninhabitable. 10 to 12 breaks in a levee led to 100% of structures being damaged, with 40% being completely destroyed, or being rendered as just debris piling, and electricity was rendered unavailable. Days after the storm, over a million people were still without power. The island was covered in about 3 feet (0.91 m) of sand as well. The police station was affected, with the roof being torn apart. The chief, Scooter Resweber, called it the "most severe hurricane" he had ever experienced....

FTA above:

The mayor of Grand Isle, Louisiana, David Camardelle says between 85 and 90 percent of homes and businesses on the island have been “totally destroyed” ...

The barrier island was deemed “uninhabitable” as an estimated 100 percent of structures in Grand Isle damaged or destroyed, officials said.

I agree with O Really and neoplacebo.

[billy.pilgrim]

Hindsight is easy

(Where did O Really say that?)

[Vrede too]

Hindsight is easy

(Where did O Really say that?)

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "Isle", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else when there's a hurricane headed your way.

They knew that it was going to strike as a Cat 4 ahead of time. If the 40 holdouts estimate is correct that means that about 1407 Grand Isle residents had the foresight to leave.

[billy.pilgrim]

Hindsight is easy

(Where did O Really say that?)

Helpful Hint: If you live somewhere named "Isle", you probably want to boogie off to somewhere else when there's a hurricane headed your way.

They knew that it was going to strike as a Cat 4 ahead of time. If the 40 holdouts estimate is correct that means that about 1407 Grand Isle residents had the foresight to leave.

You never know for sure. They have all experienced tens of storms predicted to strike them that didn't.
I agree with not subsidizing rebuilding, but people are gonna protect their property.

We know that a big earthquake is going to hit LA and San Francisco, we know Ranier is going to blow ...

[Vrede too]

You never know for sure. They have all experienced tens of storms predicted to strike them that didn't.
I agree with not subsidizing rebuilding, but people are gonna protect their property.

1407 vs 40 did know for sure.

We know that a big earthquake is going to hit LA and San Francisco, we know Ranier is going to blow ...

If people know for a fact that a big earthquake or an eruption is going to occur on Sunday, the smart ones will seek relative safety by Saturday.

[O Really]

Sure, an argument can be made for "riding it out" particularly if there's some reasonable expectation that you probably won't be one of the ones hanging in a tree, but my issue is the drive to rebuild in places increasingly endangered. There comes a time to consider it a "total loss", clean up the debris and pull out the power and water lines.