Coronavirus

[neoplacebo]

It truly is unbelievable that people would protest a vaccine for a novel (that means new) virus that quite possibly could kill them or people they know. I hope I die soon. I can't take much more of this crazy shit.

Well, that could be arranged but I'm not volunteering.

What can be arranged? My death? And how can it be arranged if you're not volunteering but insinuate that you'd arrange another to kill me? Is this the same sort of logic you used out at the hummingbird torture chamber? ......it (death) can be arranged (with electricity) but you're not volunteering, and instead will sit back and let the electrons do the direct, current (a pun) work? Maybe you should run for office as a Republican. They like shit that makes no sense, and they especially like shit that is subliminally threatening or even overtly threatening.

I clearly see both sets of comments in the same nonsensical vein of humor. I see Ulysses following neoplacebo's lead, rather than directed at neoplacebo.

Ok, but I didn't see it that way. I was serious about how I'm glad I've not got another 30 years to have to live through constant petty dumbfuckery, lies, and general ignorance. I just assumed Ulysses was also being serious. After all, there was nothing "funny" about my initial comment. I actually meant it. Besides, I can't see myself being 107 years old.
Opps! My math is off and I've not even been drinking today. Thirty more would only put me at 97.

[Vrede too]

I clearly see both sets of comments in the same nonsensical vein of humor. I see Ulysses following neoplacebo's lead, rather than directed at neoplacebo.

I disagree, context matters. Trochilidaecidal Useless is an asshole and neoplacebo dislikes him. Thus, Useless' "humor" about the "arranged" killing of neoplacebo crosses the line. It might be different if you were the jocular author.

Regardless, once neoplacebo expresses his displeasure the proper response from a decent person with a spine is a humble apology, not a further attack.

[neoplacebo]

The ex Mrs, Neo died Wednesday, 9-15 after about a nine month cancer battle. The local funeral home took her back to our hometown here that day. But because of the body count from Covid, her funeral is not until 9-27

[billy.pilgrim]

The ex Mrs, Neo died Wednesday, 9-15 after about a nine month cancer battle. The local funeral home took her back to our hometown here that day. But because of the body count from Covid, her funeral is not until 9-27

Cancer sucks, I hope her "battle" wasn't too painful.

[neoplacebo]

The ex Mrs, Neo died Wednesday, 9-15 after about a nine month cancer battle. The local funeral home took her back to our hometown here that day. But because of the body count from Covid, her funeral is not until 9-27

Cancer sucks, I hope her "battle" wasn't too painful.

It was hard to see, but was fast. She'd already lost her hair from chemo and radiation but was lucid until sometime last weekend. When I got down there Tuesday morning she still had her eyes open but they soon stayed closed and about all she did was emit a small grunt on each exhale of breath. She died about 3am Wednesday about 16 hours after I got there. And thanks for your thoughts.

[O Really]

I'm sorry, neo - even ex's have been an important part of one's life - and it's good that you kept a relationship good enough to see her off.

[GoCubsGo]

I'm sorry, neo - even ex's have been an important part of one's life - and it's good that you kept a relationship good enough to see her off.

Same.

So sorry.

[Vrede too]

I'm sorry, neo - even ex's have been an important part of one's life - and it's good that you kept a relationship good enough to see her off.

Same.

So sorry.

Ditto, hominy.

[neoplacebo]

Thanks, guys. I didn't expect this to affect me the way it has. My eyes hurt.

[GoCubsGo]

[neoplacebo]

An inspirational story about the scientists who first explored the idea of mRNA structures to develop vaccines. Their work eventually resulted in the vaccine for covid. A lot of people owe these people a lot. But their work and accomplishments are meaningless to covidiots.....which means that you really can't fix stupid.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/scientific-h ... 22502.html

[Vrede too]

Yay science, neoplacebo!

(tweet)

Now that the toll rivals the Civil War, I am saddened because the Civil War took four years to hit these numbers. COVID managed it in less than half the time. And the country will still be divided when this ends.

But there are several COVIDiot respondents, too.

Add one, GoCubsGo.

A 105-year-old woman who survived the 1918 flu that killed 50 million people worldwide has died of COVID-19

... while making a visit on September 9, Dorene found her mother coughing. Her mother was fully vaccinated against the coronavirus. So was her caretaker and the caretaker's husband....

I wonder if more of the public was vaccinated, though.

‘Not just a number.’ COVID deaths pass 700,000 in U.S. amid vaccine refusal, delta variant

... The last 100,000 deaths occurred during a time when vaccines — which overwhelmingly prevent deaths, hospitalizations and serious illness — were available to any American over the age of 12.

The milestone is deeply frustrating to doctors, public health officials and the American public, who watched a pandemic that had been easing earlier in the summer take a dark turn. Tens of millions of Americans have refused to get vaccinated, allowing the highly contagious delta variant to tear through the country and send the death toll from 600,000 to 700,000 in 3 1/2 months.

Florida suffered by far the most death of any state during that period, with the virus killing about 17,000 residents since the middle of June. Texas was second with 13,000 deaths. The two states account for 15% of the country’s population, but more than 30% of the nation’s deaths since the nation crossed the 600,000 threshold.

Dr. David Dowdy, an infectious disease epidemiologist at Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health who has analyzed publicly reported state data, said it’s safe to say at least 70,000 of the last 100,000 deaths were in unvaccinated people. And of those vaccinated people who died with breakthrough infections, most caught the virus from an unvaccinated person, he said.

“If we had been more effective in our vaccination, then I think it’s fair to say, we could have prevented 90% of those deaths,” since mid-June, Dowdy said....

Almost 65% of Americans have had at least one dose of vaccine, while about 56% are fully vaccinated, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

But millions are either refusing or still on the fence because of fear, misinformation and political beliefs. Health care workers report being threatened by patients and community members who don’t believe COVID-19 is real.

The first known deaths from the virus in the U.S. were in early February 2020. It took four months to reach the first 100,000 deaths. During the most lethal phase of the disaster, in the winter of 2020-21, it took just over a month to go from 300,000 to 400,000 deaths.

The U.S. reached 500,000 deaths in mid-February, when the country was still in the midst of the winter surge and vaccines were only available to a limited number of people. The death toll stood about 570,000 in April when every adult American became eligible for shots.

“I remember when we broke that 100,000-death mark, people just shook their heads and said ‘Oh, my god,’” said Dr. Georges Benjamin, executive director of the American Public Health Association. “Then we said, ‘Are we going to get to 200,000?’ Then we kept looking at 100,000-death marks,” and finally surpassed the estimated 675,000 American deaths from the 1918-19 flu pandemic.

“And we’re not done yet,” Benjamin said.

The deaths during the delta surge have been unrelenting in hotspots in the South. Almost 79 people out of every 100,000 people in Florida have died of COVID since mid-June, the highest rate in the nation....

[GoCubsGo]

I wish every parent whose kid gets covid in a district without a mandate would do this.


Another Parent Sues Over School's Lack of COVID Protocols

She alleges the district ended its mitigation policies for the 2021-22 school year and two of her son's classmates tested positive for the disease on Sept. 20 and Sept. 24. One of them didn't wear a mask to school. She alleges her son, who wore a mask, tested positive on Sept. 27 and missed two weeks of school while in quarantine.

Kildahl alleges the district violated her son's equal protection rights and caused his infection. The lawsuit compares the school to a “COVID-19 snake pit."

The filing mirrors a lawsuit a woman filed in federal court in Milwaukee on Oct. 5 seeking an order forcing the Waukesha School District to comply with COVID guidelines, alleging classmates infected her son.

[Vrede too]

I wish every parent whose kid gets covid in a district without a mandate would do this.

Another Parent Sues Over School's Lack of COVID Protocols ...

Poll: Americans aren't as divided on COVID as the media makes it seem

... It’s no secret that politics has infected the U.S. pandemic response, transforming matters of public health into partisan flash points. In part because conservative pundits and politicians have sowed unsubstantiated doubts about the vaccines’ safety and efficacy and resisted policies to encourage or require inoculation, America's full-vaccination rate — 56 percent of the total population — now ranks 45th worldwide, leaving us more vulnerable to the coronavirus than countries such as Portugal (85 percent), Denmark (75 percent), Chile (75 percent) and Canada (73 percent).

... According to the latest Yahoo News/YouGov poll of 1,640 U.S. adults, conducted from Oct. 1 to 4, just 15 percent say they will not get vaccinated — down from 19 percent in August. Only 17 percent say they “never” wore a mask during the previous week. And just 16 percent say, incorrectly, that face coverings are “not effective at all” in preventing the spread of the virus.

Even opinions on masking and vaccination mandates are not quite as polarized as most hot-button political issues tend to be. Only one-quarter of Americans (27 percent) say kids should not be required to wear masks in school; meanwhile, a third (34 percent) are against requiring as many people as possible to get vaccinated if Delta surges again.

... To be sure, anti-mask, anti-vax Trump fans tend to be the loudest, so they invariably attract the most media attention. But millions of quieter Republicans don’t fit the mold. A full 40 percent, for instance, still say they mask up “always” or “some of the time”; one-third say they would support requiring as many people as possible to get vaccinated. And the vast majority (70 percent) say they’ve either gotten jabbed themselves or are open to it....

So what do Americans want to do about COVID, 19 months in? The press persists in describing us as “deeply polarized” over vaccination, but that’s not really accurate. While just 56 percent of the total U.S. population is fully vaccinated, that’s partly because most children aren’t even eligible yet. The truth is that more than 78 percent of U.S. adults have already received at least one shot. In comparison, a mere 48 percent of grown-ups got a flu shot during the 2018-19 season. On top of that, an additional 15 percent of unvaccinated adults say they haven’t ruled out a COVID jab yet. It’s hard to find this much agreement on anything else in American life.

Americans are also starting to agree on the way forward. Asked which policies they would support in their area in response to a new wave of COVID-19 cases due to Delta, a full 71 percent favor lowering the cost and increasing the availability of at-home testing kits — a policy with huge potential in which the Biden administration just invested $1 billion. More than two-thirds (67 percent) favor encouraging as many people as possible to get vaccinated; more than half (55 percent) say vaccination should be required for as many people as possible (with an additional 12 percent saying they wouldn’t rule it out).

Meanwhile, more than 6 in 10 (61 percent) would support masking requirements in public indoor spaces, and the same number already favor requiring kids to mask up in class. Reflecting this sentiment, a full 64 percent of parents report that their local schools now mandate face coverings, up nearly 10 points since August....

[GoCubsGo]

That poll has got to be fake.

[Vrede too]

That poll has got to be fake.

It's a "hoax" virus hoax poll.

[GoCubsGo]

That poll has got to be fake.

It's a "hoax" virus hoax poll.

I knew it!!

[Vrede too]

That poll has got to be fake.

It's a "hoax" virus hoax poll.

I knew it!!

More fake news:

How did California go from the epicenter of the US pandemic to the lowest statewide transmission rate?

With the lowest COVID-19 infection rate among all states as of Friday, California, which has some of the strictest mask and vaccination mandates in the country, has managed to flip the script as the former U.S. epicenter of the pandemic.

"They've been very much forward-thinking in terms of policies around vaccination requirements and mandates," said epidemiologist Dr. John Brownstein, chief innovation officer at Boston Children's Hospital and an ABC News contributor....

[O Really]

Also, California was called the "epicenter" of the US Pandemic largely because of the total number of cases and hospitalizations. But the great majority of those were concentrated in parts of LA County and in the Central Valley, both places with specific conditions very conducive to virus transmission. Concentrated populations of people who have to go do their "essential" jobs, lots of people living in close conditions, yada. The state overall pretty much always did well from the start.

[Vrede too]

Also, California was called the "epicenter" of the US Pandemic largely because of the total number of cases and hospitalizations. But the great majority of those were concentrated in parts of LA County and in the Central Valley, both places with specific conditions very conducive to virus transmission. Concentrated populations of people who have to go do their "essential" jobs, lots of people living in close conditions, yada. The state overall pretty much always did well from the start.

Just next door:

Arizona's pandemic outlook worries experts as mask and vaccine mandate battles rage

... Some health experts worry Arizona could be headed for a deepening crisis as winter approaches. Although average daily deaths from covid-19 remain much lower than during the state's second wave in January, Arizona experienced a 138% increase in the 7-day rolling average of daily new deaths per 100,000 people last week, according to data collected by The Washington Post.

"It's bad," Will Humble, executive director of Arizona's Public Health Association, told The Post.

Some public health experts say Arizona Gov. Doug Ducey, a Republican, lifted pandemic-related restrictions in March without putting in place measures to mitigate the risks of reopening, causing cases to rise again in July just as the more contagious delta variant was becoming the most common coronavirus variant in the United States.

Now, Ducey - who is vaccinated and has urged others to get vaccinated but argues it should be a personal choice - is engaged in a battle against the federal government on several fronts in an effort to prevent mask mandates in schools and vaccine mandates in workplaces in his state....