The homophobic thread :>

[Mr.B]

"I got a sweet deal (I think) on a half life of some rare radioactive isotope there the other day."

Good thing you got in before the rush.....Mexican authorities found the rest; the thieves who stole the truck are in deep doo-doo.

[O Really]

Below is an email from Project Runway mentor, Tim Gunn, who is featured in the fun, animated video launch of the "My Big Gay (Il)legal Wedding" contest—written up in today's New York Times.*


I'm super excited to be working with the ACLU on the hottest ticket in town: "My Big Gay (Il)legal Wedding."

What does it take to jump out of a plane to fight for your freedom to marry?

Because we're looking for five loving, courageous same-sex couples who will cross state lines to marry in the most creative ways possible—and we need your help to pick them. I'd tell you more about it, but I'd rather show you in an exciting animated video that you can share with your friends!


Why is the ACLU doing something so fabulous (and so far outside the courtroom)? I'm glad you asked.

Since Edie Windsor and the ACLU won the historic Supreme Court case tearing down the discriminatory Defense of Marriage Act, a growing number of states (16 now) have recognized the freedom to marry for everyone. But two-thirds of the states are still leaving same-sex couples out in the cold.

It's CRAZY that any couple in America can lose recognition of the love they share when they cross some imaginary line. So the ACLU's doing something a little bit crazy to highlight that injustice: Calling for couples to cross rivers, move mountains or jump out of planes to make their wedding possible.

These are amazing couples doing outrageous things to pressure their home states to extend the freedom to marry. And we need your help to find them and to spread their compelling stories of love and commitment.

Click here to watch the new launch video and vote for your favorite couple (or enter the contest yourself). Then share My Big Gay (Il)legal Wedding with everyone you know.

Make it work!
Tim Gunn, on behalf of the ACLU Action team

Source:
Elliot, Stuart, "Support, and a Smile, for Same-Sex Marriage," The New York Times, 10 December 2013

[O Really]

Whoda thunk Mr.B would be aligned with Vladimir Putin? http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/worl ... i/3997351/

[homerfobe]

You and I have a lot in common!...

Gay guys hitting on you?

This thread sure took a strange turn. But it seems that Vrede is sticking with her obsession. Oh yeah, the thread subject--sorry.

[Mr.B]

"Whoda thunk Mr.B would be aligned with Vladimir Putin?"

* Russia has faced Western criticism over a law banning "propaganda of non-traditional relations"
* Putin said "genderless and infertile" Western tolerance equates good and evil
* Gay rights groups say law given a green light to harassment and intimidation

It's a losing battle. Morals have been on the decline for generations; doesn't mean everyone is going to blindly follow. Who'da thunk it?

Got this in an email this morning.....good example of my statement above.

Can you guess, in each photo from Thailand, which one is really a guy and which is really a girl?
Don't cheat by going to the website; look closely and decide for yourself.
The answer can be found below.....








They're all guys...everyone of them!

[Ombudsman]

"Whoda thunk Mr.B would be aligned with Vladimir Putin?"

* Russia has faced Western criticism over a law banning "propaganda of non-traditional relations"
* Putin said "genderless and infertile" Western tolerance equates good and evil
* Gay rights groups say law given a green light to harassment and intimidation

It's a losing battle. Morals have been on the decline for generations; doesn't mean everyone is going to blindly follow. Who'da thunk it?

Got this in an email this morning.....good example of my statement above.

Can you guess, in each photo from Thailand, which one is really a guy and which is really a girl?
Don't cheat by going to the website; look closely and decide for yourself.
The answer can be found below.....








They're all guys...everyone of them!

Baptists seem to be on a lot of unusual e-mail lists.

[O Really]

It's a trick answer. Mr.B needs too look up "transgender." I'm guessing some of those in the photo are not "boys" anymore, regardless of how they may have started life. He probably refers to Chaz Bono as a "girl" too.

[Boatrocker]

. . . Baptists seem to be on a lot of unusual e-mail lists.

Their internet search histories are probably as enlightening as they are scary.

[O Really]

Being one who thinks keeping one woman at a time happy is enough of a challenge, and not wanting to put up with more than woman at a time in hormonal distress, bigamy isn't something that's very important to me. But I have wondered why polygamy, as defined by the Utah judge has ever been an issue. If you never attempt actual "legal" marriage, you aren't a bigamist. Hardly anywhere - if anywhere - is it illegal for a man and woman to live together, have kids, share a life - all without ever visiting the justice of the peace or their church of choice. So what's the difference if one lives with more than one partner? In states that have "common law marriage" part of that is to present oneself publicly as married, so I suppose there could be a technical conflict, but otherwise, I don't see the issue.

[O Really]

Back to my question - Should polygamy be legal even if it's too much "hormonal distress" for you?

Fine with me - of course we know it would just lead to people marrying both their dog and their cat.

[O Really]

Of course, there are some of the same issues as with other prohibited marriages. If you can only have one spouse, what happens to the rights of the rest with regard to taxes, health insurance, rights of inheritance, yada. Not that I know anything about family law, but I think it's a stronger argument to limit a marriage license to one partner per person than to limit who that partner can be.

[O Really]

Good question - Does the solo gender partner, usually a man, get half the assets no matter what or are they split equally between all partners?

Currently in community property states, each party is entitled to half, although what they actually get is dependent on what they agree to. I don't think you could specify a gender to get more than his (or her) share, and would have to say everybody is entitled to an equal share, subject of course to negotiation and agreement.

Which brings up another question - what happens if the group wants to divorce only one of its members?

[Mr.B]

I believe that would be another instance of the Bible calling that "confusion". I believe that many states foresaw the legal complications and confusion that could/would arise out of polygamous unions when the spouse(s) split up. Personally, I don't foresee nor believe that states will ease prohibition on polygamy.

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:24)

"...And shall cleave unto his wife..."
This is about marriage as God intends it, and this involves leaving and cleaving. Sometimes the English word "cleave" means to divide or split
(a butcher uses a cleaver to cut meat).
But in Genesis 2:24, the opposite is meant: to adhere, to stick, to be attached by strong tie. It is a verb, and it involves determined action to stay with somebody, out of deep love and commitment;
It is not just emotional; it is not passive; it is the attitude and activity of staying close to someone. It is adherence rooted in a shared will or intent.
By Warren E. Berkley
From Expository Files 8.10; October 2001

[Ombudsman]

I believe that would be another instance of the Bible calling that "confusion". I believe that many states foresaw the legal complications and confusion that could/would arise out of polygamous unions when the spouse(s) split up. Personally, I don't foresee nor believe that states will ease prohibition on polygamy.

"Therefore shall a man leave his father and his mother, and shall cleave unto his wife: and they shall be one flesh." (Genesis 2:24)

So how'd that work with all those Bible heroes who had multiple wives and concubines? Were they all "one"?

[Mr.B]

"So how'd that work with all those Bible heroes who had multiple wives and concubines? Were they all "one"?"

Beats me... :-0?> ... I can't relate to that because I've only had one wife for the past 45 years; no concubines, or kids that I was unaware of,
but obviously they were "one".... one large happy(?) family.

It is interesting to note though that "all those Bible heroes" you speak of had "wives and concubines" of the opposite gender.

[Crock Hunter]

It is interesting to note though that "all those Bible heroes" you speak of had "wives and concubines" of the opposite gender.

Perhaps not always .. ..

David speaking of a fallen Jonathan. ...

I grieve for you, Jonathan my brother;
you were very dear to me.
Your love for me was wonderful,
more wonderful than that of women.
2 Samuel 1:26

[Mr.B]

"Perhaps not always ..... David speaking of a fallen Jonathan....."

This love is the love of one who is like a brother; like family love.......referring to Jonathan's loyalty.
What he is saying is that their friendship bond is stronger than physical attraction. I've had friendships that strong; if you don't understand that, you need some better friends. Although your reply is informative, I feel it is left up to speculation and your own interpretation; you know, everyone has an opinion.

I'm not saying that homosexuality didn't exist in the Bible; I am saying that it is described as an 'abomination'.

[Crock Hunter]

I am saying that it is described as an 'abomination'.

Yes.. in the same category as eating shellfish and wearing mixed fabrics.. .

[O Really]

l like the "cleavage" part...

[neoplacebo]

I myself have had a tendency to cleave to cleaveage in the past.