If Franken-storm Sandy disrupts voting, what then?

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neoplacebo wrote:
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If Franken-storm Sandy disrupts voting, what then?
Diebold will show a Romney landslide in the Northeast, and the Supreme Court will declare Romney "Ruler for Life."
Sarah Palin will run for governor of Washington state, with a harbor seal as lieutenant governor, and win.....

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Vrede wrote:So did Bush I.

he did didn't he


my god, can you imagine quale as president. kinda like heck of a job brownie and paul rmoney all rolled into one
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Now that's energy independence. :D Come to think of it, it also illustrates a lack of regulation, no taxes, and no evidence of Obamacare in sight. Is that Mark Meadows?

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Must be a liberal. :lol:

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There's already talk about whether or not Election Day should be delayed.

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gongoozler wrote:Sandy may combine with a Nor'easter making it a huge slow moving storm through the most densely populated area of the US. Suppose there are blackouts for weeks -- what happens on Election Day? Do they move to paper ballots by candlelight? This is a real possibility. Lower voter turnout would affect Obama more than Romney, especially in the northeast.
see the constitution. everyone must vote on the same day. how early voting works I do not know.

just suck it up and vote.

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nobody wrote:
gongoozler wrote:Sandy may combine with a Nor'easter making it a huge slow moving storm through the most densely populated area of the US. Suppose there are blackouts for weeks -- what happens on Election Day? Do they move to paper ballots by candlelight? This is a real possibility. Lower voter turnout would affect Obama more than Romney, especially in the northeast.
see the constitution. everyone must vote on the same day. how early voting works I do not know.

just suck it up and vote.
I couldn't agree more with this statement.

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gongoozler wrote:There's already talk about whether or not Election Day should be delayed.
I heard some of that while flipping thru the radio stations today. NY, NJ won't matter much, the only advantage to anyone would be the Philadelphia area but with the early voting I don't think that would even matter.

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gongoozler wrote:
nobody wrote:
gongoozler wrote:Sandy may combine with a Nor'easter making it a huge slow moving storm through the most densely populated area of the US. Suppose there are blackouts for weeks -- what happens on Election Day? Do they move to paper ballots by candlelight? This is a real possibility. Lower voter turnout would affect Obama more than Romney, especially in the northeast.
see the constitution. everyone must vote on the same day. how early voting works I do not know.

just suck it up and vote.
I couldn't agree more with this statement.
Careful agreeing with someone who isn't particularly accurate much of the time. In this case, he's probably reading some other country's Constitution. The US Constitution gets the President elected by the "electors" who are chosen according to a manner determined by each state. The others on the ballot, " The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Place of Chusing Senators."

The states control the election process and could - theoretically - postpone the election in accordance with state law. Not very likely, though.

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O Really wrote:The states control the election process and could - theoretically - postpone the election in accordance with state law. Not very likely, though.
False.

Chapter 1. Presidential Elections and Vacancies

Time of appointing electors

§ 1. The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.

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gongoozler wrote:
O Really wrote:The states control the election process and could - theoretically - postpone the election in accordance with state law. Not very likely, though.
False.

Chapter 1. Presidential Elections and Vacancies

Time of appointing electors

§ 1. The electors of President and Vice President shall be appointed, in each State, on the Tuesday next after the first Monday in November, in every fourth year succeeding every election of a President and Vice President.
True that. But that's the electors, not the voters. Look, I'm not saying it would be easy or practical to change the voting day. I'm just saying it's not a Constitutional requirement that everyone vote on the same day.

Here's an explanation... http://www.usnews.com/news/politics/art ... e-election

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Vrede wrote:
Vrede wrote:...One difference, besides for campaign schedules - disasters give a POTUS the opportunity to be presidential or not, they just give candidates the opportunity to engage in exploitation or not.
3 Republicans inadvertently giving Obama a post-Sandy boost

Reporters blast Romney’s “Hurricane relief” stunt

Tally:

Christie singing Obama's praises.
Brownie making an ass of himself.
Newter being a slimeball.
Mitten doing fake "relief".
From the article:
Reporters on the scene of the “charity” event are horrified by the politickig they’re seeing.
Horrified reporters? A little over the top there.

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In the last 4 years, Broncobama has blamed Bush for everything from gas pains to poor golfing performance. (maybe even sexual performance)

In Sandy, he now has a new patsy to blame everything for, win or lose.

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gongoozler wrote:
Vrede wrote:
Vrede wrote:...One difference, besides for campaign schedules - disasters give a POTUS the opportunity to be presidential or not, they just give candidates the opportunity to engage in exploitation or not.
3 Republicans inadvertently giving Obama a post-Sandy boost

Reporters blast Romney’s “Hurricane relief” stunt

Tally:

Christie singing Obama's praises.
Brownie making an ass of himself.
Newter being a slimeball.
Mitten doing fake "relief".
From the article:
Reporters on the scene of the “charity” event are horrified by the politickig they’re seeing.
Horrified reporters? A little over the top there.
And how many jabs did Obama take at Romney in NJ. Lets not forget many folks don't like the idea that most of this area will be re-built with federal TAX dollars. I was with a dem last night who said wow he can't even do this without campaigning, referring to where he said something about we have money still in FEMA. And we never ever talk politics. Don't really think it matters either way though.

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Vrede wrote:Some things are just disgusting, even in politics. Don't you agree?
Yes. I've see quite a few disgusting things in this election.

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He also thanked the state's congressional delegation, noting that they helped ensure that funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
And you don't think this was a stab at Romney? :?: :-H :lol: :roll:
Big difference, Romney took a campaign stop and turned it into a charitable event. Obama took a disaster speech and turned it into a campaign stump. :roll:
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Vrede wrote:Is Mitten's billing of a political rally as a Sandy relief event one of them?
You call it a Hurricane Relief Effort that turned into a Romney Rally.

Some see it the other way around.

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Leo Lyons wrote:In the last 4 years, Broncobama has blamed Bush for everything from gas pains to poor golfing performance. (maybe even sexual performance)

In Sandy, he now has a new patsy to blame everything for, win or lose.
Broncobama? :lol: :lol:

I can see his speech writers now. "A vote for Obama means no more hurricanes; ever."
About as believable and realistic as Hope and Change.

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Vrede wrote:
Colonel Taylor wrote:
He also thanked the state's congressional delegation, noting that they helped ensure that funding for the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA)
And you don't think this was a stab at Romney? :?: :-H :lol: :roll:
Loosely, maaaybe - you're reaching - and not the most current iteration of Mitt-Flop, as has been discussed in this forum.

Was Obama speaking at a relief event and, if not, is that why you did not source or link your abbreviated quote? Deceptive editing again?

Are you aware that 40% of the NJ congressional delegation is GOP? Obama must have been praising them, too.

And, are you saying that you disagree with FEMA funding?
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Vrede wrote:Is Mitten's billing of a political rally as a Sandy relief event one of them?
You call it a Hurricane Relief Effort that turned into a Romney Rally.

Some see it the other way around.
Hard to tell from your abbreviated article. Is SARA MURRAY a reporter or a con columnist? Was she there or is she quoting Mitten's explanation? For now, I'll believe the multiple reporters from multiple outlets that were there.

More: Romney, Ryan use hurricane for campaign event while NYC drowns

Mitten promised not to campaign that day, then did, and he only re-named it a campaign rally after he was busted:
Here are the titles of two press releases Team Romney just sent out:
Mitt Romney Attends Storm Relief Event In Ohio On Tuesday...
Then, there's what Ryan did . . .

So, again: Is Mitten's billing of a political rally as a Sandy relief event disgusting?
Vrede wrote:...One difference, besides for campaign schedules - disasters give a POTUS the opportunity to be presidential or not, they just give candidates the opportunity to engage in exploitation or not.
Now, we know.
From the Toledo Blade: Mitt Romney asks Kettering, Ohio crowd to aid in hurricane relief efforts
KETTERING, Ohio — It still had the look of a political event, but the tone was different as GOP presidential nominee Mitt Romney turned Tuesday's planned “victory rally” into a relief effort for victims of a storm whose tentacles reached into Ohio.

There was no political talk, no mention of President Obama. The Republican former governor of Massachusetts spoke just five minutes in the Dayton suburb of Kettering before getting down to work shaking hands with members of the crowd as they delivered bags of food items and helping to box the items for delivery to the South Jersey Chapter of the American Red Cross in Sewell, N.J.

“You make the difference you can,'' he said. “You can't always solve all problems yourself, but you can make a difference in the lives of one or two people as a result of one of two people making an effort."

He likened it to cleaning a high school football field of debris after a big game.

“Today, we're cleaning one lane, if you will,” Mr. Romney said.

Later, while packing the truck with U.S. Sen. Rob Portman, Mr. Romney ignored repeated questions from reporters as to whether his budget cuts would claim the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the lead agency dealing with the nation’s response to the storm. He previously had talked about turning over at least some of its duties to the states or to the private sector.

Before his arrival at the arena at Fairmont High School, the giant digital screen briefly aired his biography promo shown at his campaign rallies. Then the screen settled into a message telling the estimated crowd of about 2,800 how they could use their cell phones to text contributions to the American Red Cross.

All political signs for the Romney event had been removed from the walls of an arena, but members of the crowd were handed Romney/Ryan yard signs as they left.

Alabama's Randy Owen took up his guitar to perform for the crowd while Mr. Romney, in the jeans and a blue-and-white checkered shirt, worked the box line.

Meanwhile, the President was in Washington dealing with Hurricane Sandy as it progressed through East Coast states. He canceled campaign events that had been set for Cincinnati and Akron on Wednesday.

A Thursday rally at a high school in Springfield, Ohio, was rescheduled for Friday, along with a campaign stop in Lima that day. The Obama campaign has not provided times or locations for the Lima event.

Doors open at 10:15 a.m. at at the Springfield High School event in Clark County.

Vice President Joe Biden canceled his Tuesday rallies in Gambier and at the College of Wooster.

Mr. Romney canceled a second rally that had been planned later today in Elida.

Josh Mandel laughs with Arizona Senator John McCain as McCain finishes speaking during the "Storm Relief and Volunteer Appreciation Event" on Tuesday in Bowling Green. THE BLADE/ZACK CONKLE Enlarge | Buy This Photo
U.S. Sen. John McCain, who lost Ohio and the election to Mr. Obama in 2008, was not on hand in Kettering as scheduled, but campaigned later Tuesday at an event in Bowling Green with U.S. Senate candidate Josh Mandel.

"The eyes of the nation, the eyes of the world, will be on the state of Ohio a week from now," Mr. McCain told a small gathering at the Republican Party's "Victory Center" in downtown Bowling Green. "They will be watching. They will be watching this. We may be up late."

Mr. McCain spoke to about 30 volunteers and supporters in the Main Street storefront and urged them to work hard to support Mr. Romney and Mr. Mandel, citing issues such as the Obama Administration's handling of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Embassy in Libya, before shaking hands and posing for photos.

Addressing a group of reporters in the office, Mr. McCain responded to a question about campaign finance reform, an issue he once championed.

"I think it's been a disaster," he said of the Citizens United Supreme Court Decision in 2010, which allowed unrestricted political spending by corporations and unions.

"There is money coming in from places we never knew where it came from," he said. "And I guarantee you there will be scandals ... and corruption, and then there will be reform."

A small table in the office had a case of water and a few canned goods marked for hurricane relief.

Mr. Romney and running mate Paul Ryan still plan rallies at West Chester near Cincinnati and Etna near Columbus on Friday. Ann Romney is expected to lead a women’s rally in Columbus on Thursday.

The Obama campaign turned what has been a routine fund-raising appeal for his campaign into an appeal for the Red Cross.

“This is a serious storm, but we are going to do what it takes to keep people safe and secure, and make sure the communities affected get the assistance they need,’’ Mr. Obama wrote. “FEMA is working with state and local governments to respond effectively. We all owe a debt of thanks to the first responders who will be dealing with the immediate impact of the storm.’’

Tim and Samantha Tschida of Springfield were already planning to attend the Romney rally, but they said they will take Mr. Romney's advice and donate to the Red Cross, most likely through the texting number displayed on the big screens.

“Obviously, the nation is focused on this storm and what it's doing to the millions of people who don't have power and have gotten killed,'' Ms. Tschida said. “I think if you can turn an event like this into an opportunity to pool resources, I think it's a good thing. ... There will be a time to pick the [political] message back up.”

But Mr. Tschida said Mr. Romney could probably not afford to be completely absent from Ohio this close to the election, particularly with the polls so tight for a state deemed critical to his path to the White House.

“Ohio's so important,'' he said. “If he's in New Jersey, there's not much he can do there.''

Most polls have the race either dead even or with a slight edge for Mr. Obama.

Blade reporter Kate Giammarise contributed to this story.

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Vrede wrote:
The Piper wrote:
Leo Lyons wrote:In the last 4 years, Broncobama has blamed Bush for everything from gas pains to poor golfing performance. (maybe even sexual performance)

In Sandy, he now has a new patsy to blame everything for, win or lose.
Broncobama? :lol: :lol:

I can see his speech writers now. "A vote for Obama means no more hurricanes; ever."
About as believable and realistic as Hope and Change.
You and Leo Lyons think a lot alike. Funny that . . .
I wouldn't say we think alike, but I did think his calling Obama 'Broncobama' was funny.

Obviously you failed to see the humor. Loosen up, laugh a little. It's good for you.
This election circus will be over soon, and one side or the other can slink off and lick their wounds.
It's life. :D

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