College football

[O Really]

Nobody wants to play defence anymore, apparently.

[Vrede too]

Nobody wants to play defence anymore, apparently.

... Colorado State at (8) Michigan -30.5
12:00 PM EDT ON ABC
Not likely, but GO Rams.

Hah.

Buffalo @Maryland -25.5
12:00 PM EDT ON BTN
Oooh, tough competition, Vrede. GO Terrapins! Up 0-14 early.

10-31

Also:
DE > Navy
13 NCSU > ECU 21-20, phew
Iowa > SDak St 7-3, take that, Noem.
UCF > SC St 56-10 stomped 'em

[Vrede too]

Ouch Zigga Zoomba.

Arizona @San Diego State -6.5
3:30 PM EDT ON CBS
GO San Diego State.

Ouch Zigga Zoomba, 38-20

Bethune-Cookman @(16) Miami (FL) -49.5
3:30 PM EDT ON ACCN
Oooh, tough competition, O Really. Miami could win and drop in the rankings.

13-70

(11) Oregon @(3) Georgia -16.5
3:30 PM EDT ON ABC
GO Ducks! Best game of the day? Definite Playoff implications.

Crap, 3-49

Also:
@California 34, UC Davis 13
@UCLA 45, Bowling Green 17

[O Really]

70-13 is embarrassing. I didn't see the game, and probably Miami cleared their bench and you can't blame benchers for wanting to do good, but c'mon.

[Vrede too]

70-13 is embarrassing. I didn't see the game, and probably Miami cleared their bench and you can't blame benchers for wanting to do good, but c'mon.

Scheduling Bethune-Cookman is embarrassing, c'mon.

[O Really]

70-13 is embarrassing. I didn't see the game, and probably Miami cleared their bench and you can't blame benchers for wanting to do good, but c'mon.

Scheduling Bethune-Cookman is embarrassing, c'mon.

True that.

[Vrede too]

(7) Utah -2.5 @Florida
7:00 PM EDT ON ESPN
GO Gators. Best game of the day?

Yep. (7) Utah 26, Florida 29. Exciting finish, watch or read about the last 3 minutes. Bye-bye Top 10, hello Top 25 Gators.

Mercer (Macon, GA) @Auburn -29.5
7:00 PM EDT ON ESP+
Oooh, tough competition. WDE.

Scheduling Mercer is embarrassing, c'mon.

(5) Notre Dame @(2) Ohio State -16
7:30 PM EDT ON ABC
GO Irish. Best game of the day? Definite Playoff implications.

10-21

(4) Clemson -23 @Georgia Tech
Mon, 9/5, 8:00 PM EDT ON ESPN
Not likely, but GO Yellow Jackets.

Also:
@Stanford 41, Colgate 10
@Texas 52, Louisiana-Monroe 10
@Coastal Carolina 38, Army West Point 28

[billy.pilgrim]

(7) Utah -2.5 @Florida
7:00 PM EDT ON ESPN
GO Gators. Best game of the day?

Yep. (7) Utah 26, Florida 29. Exciting finish, watch or read about the last 3 minutes. Bye-bye Top 10, hello Top 25 Gators.

Mercer (Macon, GA) @Auburn -29.5
7:00 PM EDT ON ESP+
Oooh, tough competition. WDE.

Scheduling Mercer is embarrassing, c'mon.

(5) Notre Dame @(2) Ohio State -16
7:30 PM EDT ON ABC
GO Irish. Best game of the day? Definite Playoff implications.

10-21

(4) Clemson -23 @Georgia Tech
Mon, 9/5, 8:00 PM EDT ON ESPN
Not likely, but GO Yellow Jackets.

Also:
@Stanford 41, Colgate 10
@Texas 52, Louisiana-Monroe 10
@Coastal Carolina 38, Army West Point 28

Why would you have a problem with Auburn scheduling Mercer? I can think of several teams that play Mercer quality opponents for better than half their games. Some even throw themselves parades and get rings.

Meanwhile, Auburn's schedule

"The toughest schedule in the land, though, has to go to the Auburn Tigers. They have a killer calendar ahead of them, playing both Georgia and Alabama on the road, plus six nationally ranked SEC opponents before the end of October."

https://en.as.com/ncaa/which-teams-have ... hedules-n/

[Vrede too]

Why would you have a problem with Auburn scheduling Mercer? ...

Easy Tiger , I take the piss out of everyone, even Lady O.

Buffalo @Maryland -25.5
12:00 PM EDT ON BTN
Oooh, tough competition, Vrede. GO Terrapins! Up 0-14 early.

10-31

You have to be really really bad to be 20-30 points worse than Maryland.

70-13 is embarrassing. I didn't see the game, and probably Miami cleared their bench and you can't blame benchers for wanting to do good, but c'mon.

Scheduling Bethune-Cookman is embarrassing, c'mon.

True that.

@Washington (-23.5) 45, Kent State 20
Yay Lady O, but scheduling Kent State is embarrassing, c'mon.

@Washington State 24, Idaho 17

[O Really]

I don't have a real problem with the tradition of scheduling a doormat for a first game warm-up or for homecoming, but it seems this year teams got a little carried away. Billy.p has always ridiculed teams with patsy schedules, and I have generally defended the Devil's position that if the system rewards wins more than anything else, why would you give yourself the most difficult path to a first place. But there comes a point when the even becomes no longer a game or any type of real competition. And 70-13 would be included there. Yeah, yeah, I know the Bethune Cookmans and Louisiana-Monroes all volunteer (beg) for the slaughter and get paid well to send their players to be humiliated by Hurricanes or Longhorns, but still. There's a reason college sports are organized into divisions. Play at least in your own sandbox.

[Vrede too]

... Yeah, yeah, I know the Bethune Cookmans and Louisiana-Monroes all volunteer (beg) for the slaughter and get paid well to send their players to be humiliated by Hurricanes or Longhorns, but still. There's a reason college sports are organized into divisions. Play at least in your own sandbox.

Seems disrespectful to both team's players to me, some of whom will get injured, even if the doormats get paid well. Who wants to spend 3 hours getting shamed?

[O Really]

... Yeah, yeah, I know the Bethune Cookmans and Louisiana-Monroes all volunteer (beg) for the slaughter and get paid well to send their players to be humiliated by Hurricanes or Longhorns, but still. There's a reason college sports are organized into divisions. Play at least in your own sandbox.

Seems disrespectful to both team's players to me, some of whom will get injured, even if the doormats get paid well. Who wants to spend 3 hours getting shamed?

There is an argument that says if you play teams over your head, you'll not only get money to support your program but you'll also do better against the teams in your own conference. That seemed to work well for App State as they moved from lower to higher level. And sure, sometimes David does better than you thought or Goliath has a bad day. But yeah, I agree it's disrespectful to both teams.

[Vrede too]

There is an argument that says if you play teams over your head, you'll not only get money to support your program but you'll also do better against the teams in your own conference. That seemed to work well for App State as they moved from lower to higher level. And sure, sometimes David does better than you thought or Goliath has a bad day. But yeah, I agree it's disrespectful to both teams.

"over your head" is one thing, neo-stomping level over your head is another. I wonder if there's a point where the theoretical skill improvement isn't negated by the morale deflation.

App State had been one of the better FCS schools for years and App State > Michigan was at least possible, even if not very likely. Not so much some of these other matchups. Otoh, I think it's feasible for the Terps to lose to anyone.

[O Really]

Otoh, I think it's feasible for the Terps to lose to anyone.

True, and they have. But I think UNC is the ideal schedule spot for a smaller wannabe. There's always a reasonable chance to beat the 'Heels, and SEC self-aggrandizing notwithstanding, there is no place better to be on a warm sunny autumn football day than Kenan at Chapel Hill.

[O Really]

Man - I wouldn't want to be LSU's kicker tonight. He might want to change his name and transfer out to East Southern Kentucky state.

[Vrede too]

Man - I wouldn't want to be LSU's kicker tonight. He might want to change his name and transfer out to East Southern Kentucky state.

Or the coach. They just ran 2 yards for the TD, should have gone for the win rather than the tie. And it had to be FSU, crap.

[O Really]

Man - I wouldn't want to be LSU's kicker tonight. He might want to change his name and transfer out to East Southern Kentucky state.

Or the coach. They just ran 2 yards for the TD, should have gone for the win rather than the tie. And it had to be FSU, crap.

Kelly said he thought the kick would be a "higher percentage" for success, despite already having two field goals blocked and a freshman kicker playing his first game. Opps. 'Hawks send condolences.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/ncaafb ... li=AAggNb9

[Vrede too]

Man - I wouldn't want to be LSU's kicker tonight. He might want to change his name and transfer out to East Southern Kentucky state.

Or the coach. They just ran 2 yards for the TD, should have gone for the win rather than the tie. And it had to be FSU, crap.

Kelly said he thought the kick would be a "higher percentage" for success, despite already having two field goals blocked and a freshman kicker playing his first game. Opps. 'Hawks send condolences.

https://www.msn.com/en-ca/sports/ncaafb ... r-AA11t8YB

Even IF the point-after attempt had "a higher-percentage chance of success", dubious given the freshman kicker and two blocked field goals, they'd still only have a 50-50 shot in OT, thus significantly reducing the overall chance of a win. Sheesh, your offense just drove "99 yards in 1:05 of game clock". Trust it.

[O Really]

Kelly might shoulda asked himself "what would Saban do" since that's who he's getting evaluated by. I'm not usually in favor of the "win or lose" two point attempt, with an overall average of about 43% successful, but in this case he's got a weak kicker and a legend to live up to/create. Not off to a good start.

[Vrede too]

Kelly might shoulda asked himself "what would Saban do" since that's who he's getting evaluated by. I'm not usually in favor of the "win or lose" two point attempt, with an overall average of about 43% successful, but in this case he's got a weak kicker and a legend to live up to/create. Not off to a good start.

I would have guessed higher than 43% and some folks say a little bit higher, but not by much. This article says the SEC extra point success rate is around 97%. So, that creates an 86 to 97 per point ratio, advantage kick. However, at the end of regular time the odds of winning with a kick are cut in half by the 50-50 odds of winning in OT - 48.5%, pretty close to the 43% with the 2 point try. In general, a coach will then consider factors that give one team an edge in OT, but the game so far doesn't indicate there are any and he could be wrong. In specific, LSU's kicking game struggles so far probably took the odds well south of 48.5%. So, I still think the right call was going for 2, but not with as much certainty as at first.

I found this while googling:

Should You Run or Pass When Going For Two?

It's for the NFL but the data says 57.14% success rate for rushes, 45.18% for passes. Have you seen this article, Pete? Pete wasn't alone, though. The article says that passes are attempted a lot more often. Weird. Idk if the same ratio holds true for college ball, but if it does an LSU rush try would have had well better than that 43% chance.