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Dramatic Footage Captures Landslide That Collapsed Bridge, Killed Nine In India



Holy crap. That boulder that takes out the bridge at around 0:45, you can follow its entire trajectory from its launch point. I've always scoffed when people said, "So real it looks like CGI," but . . .

Edit: A few tweeters make the movie comparison.
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And sink it!
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Aug 02, 2021 9:21 am
And sink it!
:D Maaaybe, but that was looking to be in the cards, regardless, especially since:
The skipper of the boat tried to start it after it died in the middle of the lake. It caught fire, so he jumped ship and watched it burn slowly. The wind drifted the burning boat to shore. No one could really do anything about it as it had two big tanks of gas on board until a jet boat SAVED THE DAY!
Reading enough of the comments might tell us the end result.
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The World’s Biggest Fires May Reach Moscow Thanks to Putin

Massive wildfires are wiping out entire Siberian villages, killing people, emitting dangerous smoke, and destroying woods and national parks across more than 5 million hectares.

The fires, which started in May in Yakutia, are now larger than all wildfires around the planet combined, according to Greenpeace....
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For months, Russian authorities have been saying that the situation was under control. Finally, on Thursday, the minister of Emergency Situations, Yevgeny Zinichev, traveled to the epicenter of the disaster in Yakutia and concluded: the fires will reach Moscow, if nobody stops them.

There are more than 3,000 miles between Moscow and Yakutia, a republic four times the size of France, located in northeastern Siberia. It is one of the coldest places on the planet in winter time. But this summer has been unusually hot, with unprecedented droughts and strong winds fueling the disaster....
I think that "will reach Moscow" is hyperbole, but maybe not.
The leader of Greenpeace Russia’s firefighting team, Grigory Kuksin, says that the government is to blame for the lack of funding to manage the disaster.

“Russia spends about 30 billion rubles on preventing fires and training regional forest firefighting teams, but the budget should be at least three times bigger,” Kuksin told The Daily Beast on Thursday.

He added: “Professional firefighters cannot appear from nowhere, they should have been trained. The aftermath of lives lost, as a result of these fires, will number thousands, since several cities are now suffering from smoke.” ...

“Until recently the Kremlin did not pay much attention to wildfires, but considered the significance of climate change,” Kuksin said. “Russian authorities should be focusing harder and spending bigger budgets on fire prevention, and training professional wood firefighters.”
Crap.
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7.2. Crap, Haiti just can't catch a break. Next up, maybe, Tropical Storm Grace just days after TD Fred rolled through.
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Sat Aug 14, 2021 12:23 pm
7.2. Crap, Haiti just can't catch a break. Next up, maybe, Tropical Storm Grace just days after TD Fred rolled through.

I'm sure it'll be awhile before we get real numbers, but it's going to be bad.

In 2010 Bush and Clinton teamed up to raise $$ to help.

Part duex?
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Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:50 pm
I'm sure it'll be awhile before we get real numbers, but it's going to be bad.

In 2010 Bush and Clinton teamed up to raise $$ to help.

Part duex?
The Clintons may be gun-shy :( . A lot of lies were told about their foundation's activity in Haiti.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Sat Aug 14, 2021 6:50 pm
I'm sure it'll be awhile before we get real numbers, but it's going to be bad.

In 2010 Bush and Clinton teamed up to raise $$ to help.

Part duex?
The Clintons may be gun-shy :( . A lot of lies were told about their foundation's activity in Haiti.
Forgot about that.
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Best thing to do for Haitians is to buy them suitcases and boat tickets.
Then give them Alabama.

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Best thing to do for Haitians is to buy them suitcases and boat tickets.
Then give them Alabama.
And/or Mississippi.
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Best thing to do for Haitians is to buy them suitcases and boat tickets.
Then give them Alabama.
Best thing?

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O Really wrote:
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Best thing to do for Haitians is to buy them suitcases and boat tickets.
Then give them Alabama.
Best thing?
Yes, spoken with a little nod to the late Sam Kinison, but Haiti has been generally demon-infested for decades. They've got no natural resources, extensive de-forestation has made it susceptible to floods, they're hit by most every hurricane that comes down the pike, plus earthquakes. The government is and generally always has been corrupt, and the whole country is in dire poverty. But it's only about 10,000 square miles, about 20% of Alabama, so there's plenty of room. No need to build new cities for them in Alabama, because when the Haitians moved in, all the white people would vacate everything. And, because Haitians aren't as stupid as Alabamians, they'd vote in Dems for house and senate. And the Dominican Republic could use the barren space formerly known as Haiti for a trash dump. Win-win for everybody.

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Well, I've had to do a little research about the history of Haiti. It is truly horrific in parts, largely from the extermination of the original native inhabitants to the brutal oppression of slaves imported from Africa to work the lucrative cotton, coffee, and indigo plantations. I found this chilling passage on Wikipedia:
A passage from Henri Christophe's personal secretary, who lived more than half his life as a slave, describes the crimes perpetrated against the slaves of Saint-Domingue by their French masters:

Have they not hung up men with heads downward, drowned them in sacks, crucified them on planks, buried them alive, crushed them in mortars? Have they not forced them to eat excrement? And, having flayed them with the lash, have they not cast them alive to be devoured by worms, or onto anthills, or lashed them to stakes in the swamp to be devoured by mosquitoes? Have they not thrown them into boiling cauldrons of cane syrup? Have they not put men and women inside barrels studded with spikes and rolled them down mountainsides into the abyss? Have they not consigned these miserable blacks to man-eating dogs until the latter, sated by human flesh, left the mangled victims to be finished off with bayonet and poniard?"[27]
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_Haiti

As someone of half-French (albeit French-Canadian) ancestry, I'm appalled. Of course this happened before the French revolution, but still. And, as I read further in Wiki, it sounds like the revolutionary French government wasn't much better in its treatment of the (former) slaves who rebelled against slavery.

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Michener's account of slavery in the island's sugar production is horrific. Due to the extreme work load, they were not expected to live more than 7 years.
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And possibly resulting from that history of slavery, along with a destruction of resources, corruption in government, lack of economic opportunities, rampaging disease, and frequent natural disasters, Haiti is beyond repair. It would likely even be less expensive to move them to Alabama.

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O Really wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:40 am
And possibly resulting from that history of slavery, along with a destruction of resources, corruption in government, lack of economic opportunities, rampaging disease, and frequent natural disasters, Haiti is beyond repair. It would likely even be less expensive to move them to Alabama.
Why Alabama?

But seriously, Florida does have plenty of existing Haitian neighborhoods and all the republican banker and developer county and city commissioners around here always claim that attracting "growth" is a worthy goal.
They spend millions in screw the citizens free deals for new growth.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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O Really wrote:
Sun Aug 15, 2021 10:40 am
And possibly resulting from that history of slavery, along with a destruction of resources, corruption in government, lack of economic opportunities, rampaging disease, and frequent natural disasters, Haiti is beyond repair. It would likely even be less expensive to move them to Alabama.
Why Alabama?

But seriously, Florida does have plenty of existing Haitian neighborhoods and all the republican banker and developer county and city commissioners around here always claim that attracting "growth" is a worthy goal.
They spend millions in screw the citizens free deals for new growth.
Why not Alabama? But wha-tever. Move them to Mississippi.

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O Really wrote:
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And possibly resulting from that history of slavery, along with a destruction of resources, corruption in government, lack of economic opportunities, rampaging disease, and frequent natural disasters, Haiti is beyond repair. It would likely even be less expensive to move them to Alabama.
Yeah, maybe the fact that Haiti was the site of the only successful slave uprising sort of queered any sort of sympathy or later development there. Not hard to see; look at all the proximate states. Nobody comes close to the level of impoverishment in Haiti.

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Active western fires:

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Fires that are now out don't get a flame icon.

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Don't forget Greece, Turkey, Siberia, etc.
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