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Lotsa bad news today.
Heat wave set to rewrite record books in central, Northeast U.S., as climate change worsens

After baking the state of Texas, an early-season heat wave is poised to shatter temperature records across the central and Northeastern sections of the United States in the next few days.

Unusually hot weather, with temperatures expected to top 100 degrees Fahrenheit throughout a broad stretch of the country, will affect millions of Americans from Texas to Maine and serve as yet another wake-up call as to the mounting evidence of climate change.

"The heat wave will produce temperatures that are 15-25 degrees above average. In most cases, temperatures this high have not been experienced since September or August last year," AccuWeather said on its website....

As the heat wave pushed north and east from the Great Plains, daytime temperatures in cities like Chicago were hotter than those recorded in Death Valley, Calif.

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... The arrival of May temperatures in the U.S. normally not registered until late June or early July is analogous to the early scorching heat wave that has gripped parts of Pakistan and India, which experienced its hottest March on record and the hottest April in 122 years.

The trend line for warmer global temperatures has continued. The last seven years have been the hottest seven in recorded history, according to the National Oceanic Atmospheric Administration. That excess heat has played a major role in droughts across the globe, such as the one that has worsened across the American Southwest. A United Nations report released Wednesday found that, thanks to rising temperatures attributable to climate change, the number and frequency of droughts on the planet have increased by 29% in the past 22 years....

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... A 2009 study conducted by the National Center for Atmospheric Research found that new record-setting high temperatures outpaced new record-low temperatures by a ratio of 2:1. Computer models have shown that that disparity will grow to 20:1 by 2050 and by 50:1 by 2100.
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Cool, calm, and collected here in NoCal...

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https://hartmannreport.com/p/why-are-am ... dium=email



Why are Americans Subsidizing Our Own Extinction?To stop our climate-change-driven suicide, Congress must stop allowing oil exports, end subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, and promote clean American energy

Thom Hartmann

May 12

"Each American — man, woman and child — paid around $2000 last year to subsidize the fossil fuel industry, according to an analysis this year by the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

Worldwide, the fossil fuel industry’s lobbying power has gotten it about $6 trillion a year in subsidies; America’s $600 billion a year gift to the energy barons pours cash into this massively profitable industry at the rate of a million dollars a minute.  

We’re funding our own suicide:"

"It doesn’t have to be this way, and the US could lead the world in getting off our fossil fuel addiction if only our politicians could stop taking money from the fossil fuel industry and instead do the right thing.

As President Trump loved to proclaim, the USA is now “energy independent,” meaning we produce more energy — including oil — than we use. You’d think that would mean we’d redirect our efforts from fossil fuels into greening America, but you’d think wrong.

It costs, in 2022 dollars, an average of $23 a barrel to produce oil in the US from existing wells and $48 a barrel from new wells (which includes all the costs of ramping up to production).

So why isn’t oil in the US selling for, say, $50 or $60 a barrel, where oil companies could make a sweet profit and gas prices would float around $2.50 a gallon?

It goes back to a massive and expensive lobbying effort by Big Oil in 2015: a handful of fossil-fuel-owned Democrats joined the entire bought-off GOP in pushing legislation through Congress that reversed President Ford’s 1975 ban on exporting American oil.  President Obama, over the loud objections of most Democrats, signed the legislation on December 18th of that year."

Good ol Obama- nothing but a closet republican

"Wherever you find politicians willing to sell out to big money, you find politicians dancing to the tune of Big Oil. Former North Dakota Democratic Senator Heidi Heitkamp, for example, said when she voted to end the export ban:

“The facts are clear: lifting the ban is good for consumers, our economy, national security and energy security.”

The former Senator is now a lobbyist, most recently working to block tax increases on morbidly rich people and corporations by spreading money and favors around Congress to kill President Biden’s Build Back Better legislation. As The New York Times noted last September"
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu May 12, 2022 8:53 pm
Lotsa bad news today.

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Sorry, descendants, we failed you and now we're old.
billy.pilgrim wrote:
Fri May 13, 2022 1:05 pm
https://hartmannreport.com/p/why-are-am ... dium=email

Why are Americans Subsidizing Our Own Extinction?To stop our climate-change-driven suicide, Congress must stop allowing oil exports, end subsidies to the fossil fuel industry, and promote clean American energy ...
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Another 'extremely worrisome' climate change record set

The world set a new record this week for the highest daily level of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere, another grim marker signaling that the greenhouse gas emissions that cause climate change continue are continuing at a dangerous pace.

On May 11, the Scripps Institute of Oceanography at the University of California, San Diego, measured 421.37 parts per million of carbon dioxide in the Earth's atmosphere, besting the previous record of 418.95 ppm set in May 2021.

The new daily record comes after April recorded the a new average monthly record of 410 ppm of atmospheric CO2 for the first time in recorded history.

"It is very concerning, extremely worrisome," Peter Tans, senior climate scientist at NOAA, told the Financial Times. "This last decade, the rate of increase has never been higher, and we are still on the same path. We're going in the wrong direction at maximum speed."

Researchers at National Oceanographic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) say they expect that May will set a monthly average record.

“This also represents a 30-percent increase in carbon dioxide concentration in the global atmosphere since the Keeling Curve began in 1958,” the Scrips Institute said on its website of the April milestone....
:cry: It was a very short time ago that the wish was to cap atmospheric CO2 at 350 ppm. 350.org was founded by Bill McKibben in only 2007. :angry-banghead:
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100 million Americans are about to see temps in the 90s.

It's May.

Hooterville will be 88 on Friday.
Greenville, SC will be 95 on Friday.
Gulf Breeze, FL is 89 right now.
Kingsport TN will be 94 on Friday.
Chicago, IL will be 86 on Friday.

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You forgot somebody.
Oceanside, CA 72 on Friday.
Actually, that would be 72 tomorrow, 72 Friday, 72 Saturday, 71 Sunday when a cool front comes in.

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O Really wrote:
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You forgot somebody.
Oceanside, CA 72 on Friday.
Actually, that would be 72 tomorrow, 72 Friday, 72 Saturday, 71 Sunday when a cool front comes in.
:lol: I saw that, but it doesn't really fit with my point.
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Vrede too wrote:
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You forgot somebody.
Oceanside, CA 72 on Friday.
Actually, that would be 72 tomorrow, 72 Friday, 72 Saturday, 71 Sunday when a cool front comes in.
:lol: I saw that, but it doesn't really fit with my point.
I'm not gonna complain, it's 54°, cloudy and damp right now.
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Hooterville and Greenville, SC will be records or near records.
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Hooterville and Greenville, SC will be records or near records.
We had a couple of record days last week.
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Things get heated up no matter where I am.

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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 8:08 pm
Things get heated up no matter where I am.
Just stop it, okay?


Yellowstone Park - Wow, the north entrance (Gardiner, MT/Mammoth Hot Springs) will be closed all summer after the "1000 year floods" that seem to happen more often these days. That's going to mess up a lot of plans, businesses and incomes. Might be good for wildlife, though.
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Vrede too wrote:
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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed May 18, 2022 8:08 pm
Things get heated up no matter where I am.
Just stop it, okay?


Yellowstone Park - Wow, the north entrance (Gardiner, MT/Mammoth Hot Springs) will be closed all summer after the "1000 year floods" that seem to happen more often these days. That's going to mess up a lot of plans, businesses and incomes. Might be good for wildlife, though.
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Record heat in the US and Europe, massive fires . . .
U.S. Has Cost the World More Than $1.9 Trillion in Climate Damages Since 1990, Study Finds

Climate activists have long argued that countries that have contributed the most to the climate crisis owe something to countries that have released relatively few emissions yet still suffer the effects of rising temperatures.

Now, a first-of-its kind study from Dartmouth College backs this argument with hard data. The study, published in Climatic Change, calculates for the first time the financial damages that emissions released by certain nations have caused for others.

“This research provides an answer to the question of whether there is a scientific basis for climate liability claims — the answer is yes,” first study author Christopher Callahan said in a Dartmouth College press release. “We have quantified each nation’s culpability for historical temperature-driven income changes in every other country.”

The researchers looked at both emissions and climate-related increases or decreases in Gross Domestic Product (GDP) for 143 nations between 1990 and 2014. Global heating causes economic damages by, for example, reducing harvests or productivity.

When it comes to responsibility for climate damages, the U.S. leads, having cost other nations more than $1.9 trillion in economic losses related to the climate crisis, The Guardian reported. That’s 16.5 percent of the total economic losses calculated by the study. The U.S. is followed by China, which is responsible for $1.83 trillion in damages; Russia, at 986 billion; India; and Brazil. All told, the five countries have cost the world $6 trillion since 1990 — or around 11 percent of global GDP per year....

Center for International Environmental Law chief executive Carroll Muffett told The Guardian that the new study could help inform this debate, calling it a “positive step.”

“[W]e can see the scale of harm is enormous,” Muffett said. “We are moving slowly towards some sort of accountability for this. As the evidence mounts and the record of U.S. obstructionism in the climate context is established, I don’t think it and other countries will be able to escape their liability in perpetuity.”
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Record heat in the US and Europe, massive fires . . .
U.S. Has Cost the World More Than $1.9 Trillion in Climate Damages Since 1990, Study Finds

Climate activists have long argued that countries that have contributed the most to the climate crisis owe something to countries that have released relatively few emissions yet still suffer the effects of rising temperatures.

Now, a first-of-its kind study from Dartmouth College backs this argument with hard data. The study, published in Climatic Change, calculates for the first time the financial damages that emissions released by certain nations have caused for others.

“This research provides an answer to the question of whether there is a scientific basis for climate liability claims — the answer is yes,” first study author Christopher Callahan said in a Dartmouth College press release. “We have quantified each nation’s culpability for historical temperature-driven income changes in every other country.”

The researchers looked at both emissions and climate-related increases or decreases in Gross Domestic Product (GDP) for 143 nations between 1990 and 2014. Global heating causes economic damages by, for example, reducing harvests or productivity.

When it comes to responsibility for climate damages, the U.S. leads, having cost other nations more than $1.9 trillion in economic losses related to the climate crisis, The Guardian reported. That’s 16.5 percent of the total economic losses calculated by the study. The U.S. is followed by China, which is responsible for $1.83 trillion in damages; Russia, at 986 billion; India; and Brazil. All told, the five countries have cost the world $6 trillion since 1990 — or around 11 percent of global GDP per year....

Center for International Environmental Law chief executive Carroll Muffett told The Guardian that the new study could help inform this debate, calling it a “positive step.”

“[W]e can see the scale of harm is enormous,” Muffett said. “We are moving slowly towards some sort of accountability for this. As the evidence mounts and the record of U.S. obstructionism in the climate context is established, I don’t think it and other countries will be able to escape their liability in perpetuity.”
We are slackers and takers, and we suck.
That's because we have to clean our air and then it decides to blow over to China and then their dirty air comes over here and we have to clean it up 2.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
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Record heat in the US and Europe, massive fires . . .

U.S. Has Cost the World More Than $1.9 Trillion in Climate Damages Since 1990, Study Finds

We are slackers and takers, and we suck.
That's because we have to clean our air and then it decides to blow over to China and then their dirty air comes over here and we have to clean it up 2.
Bastards.
Greenland hit with 'unusually extensive' melting of ice sheet, boosting sea levels, scientists say

It's getting hotter in Greenland, and last weekend temperatures rose enough to cause 18 billion tons of the country's ice sheet to melt over three days.

Scientists have warned about the fate of Greenland's ice sheet and say what happened between July 15 and 17 is the latest massive melting event contributing to an increase in the global sea level.

The amount of water from the melt – about 6 billion tons a day, or 18 billion tons over the weekend – is enough to "cover West Virginia in a foot of water – 4 inches per day, roughly," Ted Scambos, a senior research scientist at the University of Colorado's Earth Science and Observation Center and National Snow and Ice Data Center, told USA TODAY.
If they're going to use this kind of example, they should select a place we care about. ;)
Much of the melting came from northern Greenland because warm air drifted over from the Canadian Arctic Archipelago, Scambos said.
Fucking Canadians, they're as bad as the Chinese. Herschel knows.
... Once temperatures are above freezing or 32 degrees Fahrenheit, the melting begins. Temperatures last weekend were around 60 degrees, or 10 degrees warmer than normal for this time of year, according to CNN....

In the 1980s and 1990s in Greenland, a melt event of this sort never occurred, but starting in the 2000s – especially since 2010 – the melting has been more extensive.

The melt is two times larger than normal, said Xavier Fettweis of the University of Liège. Fettweis, a polar researcher, created a model scientists use, along with satellite data, to study Greenland's changes.

The melt is among two of the largest melts in the ice sheet history after the 2012 and 2019 melting events; in 2019, the runoff was about 527 billion tons. So far, the total melt is far below 2019 levels, but the situation is more dire over the Svalbard ice caps at the North of Norway, Fettweis said....

NASA Goddard Space Flight Center ice scientist Nathan Kurtz was recently in Greenland to help better calibrate ICESat-2, one of the agency's satellites used to monitor Greenland.

Its data has shown a loss of ice from Greenland of about 200 billion tons a year over the past two decades, Kurtz told USA TODAY. "This loss of ice contributes directly to global sea level rise, which has significant societal impacts," he said.

Lipscomb, of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, said scientists measure the amount of water melted in units of gigatons per year, or 1 billion tons of water. Before climate change, about 600 gigatons of snowfall were coming in each year and about 300 gigatons were going out in the form of summer melting.

Now, Greenland's ice sheet is losing nearly 300 gigatons of water each year more than it gains from snowfall, Lipscomb said....
Crap. Our children and grandchildren will despise the LOL LOL LOL AGW deniers LOL LOL LOL, and the rest of us for not doing more. :(
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I believe this guy. And it would be frightening if I weren't already old. Wouldn't want to be a kid now.

"‘Soon it will be unrecognisable’: total climate meltdown cannot be stopped, says expert"

https://www.theguardian.com/environment ... atastrophe

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Damn, humanity. We done fucked up:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62391069
New research shows that rainwater in most locations on Earth contains levels of chemicals that "greatly exceed" safety levels.

These synthetic substances called PFAS are used in non-stick pans, fire-fighting foam and water-repellent clothes.

Dubbed 'forever chemicals', they persist for years in the environment.

Such is their prevalence now that scientists say there is no safe space on Earth to avoid them.

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Damn, humanity. We done fucked up:

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-62391069
Will there be a single thing that leads to human extinction, or will it be a combo?


Speaking of southern Illinois:
Illinois gets a foot of rain, the U.S.'s 3rd 1,000-year rain in 1 week

... The extraordinarily heavy rain in Illinois comes on the heels of similar events in Kentucky and Missouri. Record-breaking rainfall caused flash flooding in the St. Louis area last Tuesday, trapping cars, closing roads and causing at least one death. Last Thursday, rural areas of eastern Kentucky were flooded after receiving up to 14 inches of rainfall. The death toll, at the most recent count, stood at 37....

All three inundations are considered 1,000-year rain events because the amount of rain that fell during such a short window has only a 0.1% chance of happening in any given year.

But that was before climate change. Due to rising concentrations of heat-trapping gases, mainly from the combustion of fossil fuels, the global average temperature has increased by 1.1 degrees Celsius (2 degrees Fahrenheit) since the dawn of the Industrial Revolution. With each degree Celsius of increased temperature, the air can hold 7% more moisture. Therefore, unusually heavy rains are becoming more frequent and severe....

Academic studies have shown that extreme rainfall and flooding will get worse in the future, especially if climate change continues unabated.
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The Inflation Reduction Act 'could be the most impactful climate legislation of our lifetimes': SunRun CEO

Nice, better than anything I would have expected Senate Majority Leader Manchin to sign on to. I think he's feeling some heat from within the party and from we in the public.

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