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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Nov 03, 2020 10:36 pm
Trump 334
I changed the channel and feel less bad.

Edit: even slightly encouraged
Atlanta, Philly and Milwaukee could give Biden 288.

Re-edit: Florida goes trump by 350,000 votes. DeSantis disenfranchised 1.2 million potential voters.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 12:06 am
I changed the channel and feel less bad.

Edit: even slightly encouraged
Atlanta, Philly and Milwaukee could give Biden 288.

Re-edit: Florida goes trump by 350,000 votes. DeSantis disenfranchised 1.2 million potential voters.
270 to win.
Currently 223 - 212 Biden
https://apps.npr.org/elections20-intera ... /president
PA MAY be out of reach.
Urban precincts usually come in later.

IF Biden gets:

ME at large - 2, likely
ME 1 - 1, likely
AZ - 11, currently winning
NE 2 - 1, currently winning
NV - 6, currently winning
GA - 16, currently losing
Mich - 16, currently losing
NC - 15, currently barely losing
WI - 10, currently losing

That equals 301 for Biden.

Senate - The Dems need to pick up 3 + Biden, or 4 regardless of Biden.
https://apps.npr.org/elections20-interactive/#/senate

AZ will likely flip Dem.
GA 2 will go to a runoff that will be very tough to win.
The Dems are losing Mich, crap. That was unexpected.
The Repugs are currently leading the other 4 "Competitive Seats" that haven't yet been called. NC is lost, and MT is getting close to out of reach.

Whatever the final results are and no matter how much we can blame voter suppression, dark money, the Russians, etc, America sucks.

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NC results

U.S. Senate
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Thom Tillis (R)i 2,640,381 49%
Cal Cunningham (D) 2,543,693 47%

Cal is a dick whose dick cost him and maybe the Dems the Senate.

NC Governor
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
> Roy Cooper (D)i 2,803,782 51%
Dan Forest (R) 2,563,258 47%

Called for Cooper, but too close.

NC Lieutenant Governor
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
> Mark Robinson (R) 2,773,753 52%
Yvonne Holley (D) 2,595,968 48%

Who cares?

NC Attorney General
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Josh Stein (D) 2,684,876 50%
Jim O'Neill (R) 2,674,085 50%

Recount?

Dems won Auditor.
Repugs won Treasurer
Repugs retained Commissioner of Agriculture and Commissioner of Insurance.
I'm not sure how much difference these offices make.

Dems retained Secretary of State, cool.

Repugs won Commissioner of Labor and Superintendent of Public Instruction, crap.

NC Supreme Court Chief Justice Seat 1
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Paul Newby (R) 2,670,773 50%
Cheri Beasley (D) 2,667,031 50%

Recount?

NC Supreme Court Chief Justice Seat 2
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Phil Berger, Jr. (R) 2,698,424 51%
Lucy Inman (D) 2,624,144 49%

Crap.

NC Supreme Court Associate Justice Seat 4
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Tamara Barringer (R) 2,720,036 51%
Mark Davis (D) 2,589,411 49%

Crap.

NC Court of Appeals Judge Seat 4
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
April Wood (R) 2,741,254 52%
Tricia Shields (D) 2,550,379 48%

Crap.

NC Court of Appeals Judge Seat 5
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Fred Gore (R) 2,710,334 51%
Lora Cubbage (D) 2,573,515 49%

Crap.

NC Court of Appeals Judge Seat 6
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
> Chris Dillon (R) 2,742,823 52%
Gray Styers (D) 2,534,735 48%

Crap.

NC Court of Appeals Judge Seat 7
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Jeff Carpenter (R) 2,721,358 52%
Reuben Young (D) 2,551,267 48%

Crap.

NC Court of Appeals Judge Seat 13
100% OF PRECINCTS REPORTING
Jefferson Griffin (R) 2,695,066 51%
Chris Brook (D) 2,570,578 49%

Crap.

Our judiciary is screwed. Could we be any more divided?

The Dems lost my state senate, state house and County Board of Commissioners seat by about 60-40. No surprise, but still sad.

Out of 8 candidates for 4 school board seats I went 2 for 4. I really didn't research it much and for all I know the best 4 did win.
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If the dems lose this election, which looks more and more likely, then I think he have a pretty good indication of who America is and what is stands for. This is probably the most high stakes election in our lifetimes. If Trump wins despite all of that, then I guess that's what America is.
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A little historical lesson.


https://heathercoxrichardson.substack.c ... aaqoyNSX08
November 3, 2020
Heather Cox Richardson

Tonight, we wait, as returns from this year’s election are about what we expected. In-person ballots cast today are weighted toward Trump, while the uncounted mail-in and early ballots are expected to favor Democratic candidate Joe Biden.

Tonight, few states except the rock-solid Democratic or Republican states have yet been called by the Associated Press.

This is the scenario we all foresaw. Tonight, the election returns look relatively good for Trump, which is why he talked about claiming a victory at the end of election night. This is the so-called “red mirage.” But as the mail-in ballots get counted, everyone expects the Democratic numbers to climb fast and far.

As they do, the Trump team will fight every single ballot. They will try to claim that counting the mail-in ballots is “fraud,” or that Democrats are “stealing” the election when, in fact, election officials are simply counting all the ballots.

Remember that no one is arguing that Trump will win the popular vote. He wants to win in the Electoral College.

What we are seeing in this election is the result of voter suppression across the southern states, along with an Electoral College that has been corrupted from its original intent and is now artificially skewed toward rural states.

In 2018, for example, people in Florida voted overwhelmingly to restore voting rights to felons. This would have added about 1.5 million people back to the rolls, many of them African Americans. But the Republican legislature passed a law saying the former felons could not vote unless they had paid all their court fines and fees. A federal judge said that law was essentially an unconstitutional poll tax, but an appeals court overturned that decision. Five of the six judges who upheld the law were appointed by Trump.

Today, as well, there are problems with ballots. This summer, the Postmaster General, Louis DeJoy, a major fundraiser for the Republican Party and a key ally of Trump, changed the rules for mail delivery, slowing it significantly. It turns out that more than 300,000 ballots were checked into the USPS mail system but not checked out of it. U.S. District Judge Emmett G. Sullivan ordered the USPS to sweep 27 processing centers for the missing ballots, but USPS officials refused, saying they already had a system in place and that changing it would be disruptive. Sullivan has called the parties in tomorrow morning to discuss the issue.

The problem of voter suppression is compounded by the misuse of the Electoral College. The Framers originally designed delegates to the Electoral College to vote according to districts within states, so that states would split their electoral votes, making them roughly proportional to a candidate’s support. That system changed in 1800, after Thomas Jefferson recognized that he would have a better chance of winning the presidency if the delegates of his own home state, Virginia, voted as a bloc rather than by district. He convinced them to do it. Quickly, other state officials recognized that the “winner-take-all” system meant they must do the same or their own preferred candidate would never win. Thus, our non-proportional system was born, and it so horrified James Madison and Alexander Hamilton that both wanted constitutional amendments to switch the system back.

Democracy took another hit from that system in 1929. The 1920 census showed that the weight of the nation’s demographics was moving to cities, which were controlled by Democrats, so the Republicans in control of the House of Representatives refused to reapportion representation after that census. Reapportioning the House would have cost many of them their seats. Rather than permitting the number of representatives to grow along with population, Congress then capped the size of the House at 435. Since then, the average size of a congressional district has tripled. This gives smaller states a huge advantage in the Electoral College, in which each state gets a number of votes equal to the number of its senators and representatives.

These injuries to our system have saddled us with an Electoral College that permits a minority to tyrannize over the majority. That systemic advantage is unsustainable in a democracy. One or the other will have to give.

We should know the results of this election by Thursday night, I would guess.

Biden is still projected to win.
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Well I'll be dammed, I guess it still isn't over. Biden still has a chance.
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Whack9 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:20 am
Well I'll be dammed, I guess it still isn't over. Biden still has a chance.
Feeling a little better as the night has worn on, sleep was a little elusive. It'll be a skin of the teeth victory if it happens, but expect massive legal challenges (probably unsuccessful) as well as the usual PINO screaming.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:37 am
Whack9 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:20 am
Well I'll be dammed, I guess it still isn't over. Biden still has a chance.
Feeling a little better as the night has worn on, sleep was a little elusive. It'll be a skin of the teeth victory if it happens, but expect massive legal challenges (probably unsuccessful) as well as the usual PINO screaming.
Let it sink in how close this election is. I could maybe (big maybe) understand Trump winning in 2016. But we've had four years of this guy saying nonsense, being incompetent, and being overtly divisive and nasty. It's very telling about the character of the American people that so many still support him and see all he says and does and think "that's the man I want representing us".

I think the fundamental character of America is one of resentimemt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ressentiment

Why is Trump so popular despite his overall shittiness? Well, I think this describes it to a T (heh) -
Ressentiment is a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one's own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat. The ego creates the illusion of an enemy, a cause that can be "blamed" for one's own inferiority/failure. Thus, one was thwarted not by a failure in oneself, but rather by an external "evil."
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Whack9 wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 7:47 am
Let it sink in how close this election is. I could maybe (big maybe) understand Trump winning in 2016. But we've had four years of this guy saying nonsense, being incompetent, and being overtly divisive and nasty. It's very telling about the character of the American people that so many still support him and see all he says and does and think "that's the man I want representing us".

I think the fundamental character of America is one of ressentimemt.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ressentiment

Why is Trump so popular despite his overall shittiness? Well, I think this describes it to a T (heh) -
Ressentiment is a reassignment of the pain that accompanies a sense of one's own inferiority/failure onto an external scapegoat. The ego creates the illusion of an enemy, a cause that can be "blamed" for one's own inferiority/failure. Thus, one was thwarted not by a failure in oneself, but rather by an external "evil."
Pretty much an academic version of neoplacebo's description of the crybaby cult.

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https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/03 ... &contest=0

US PRESIDENT
Precincts Reported: 2662 of 2662
Donald J. Trump REP 2,732,084 49.98%
Joseph R. Biden DEM 2,655,383 48.57%
Jo Jorgensen LIB 47,215 0.86%
Write-In (Miscellaneous) 12,940 0.24%
Howie Hawkins GRE 11,825 0.22%
Don Blankenship CST 7,381 0.14%

So close, crap. I doubt there are 77K provisional ballots that all break Joe's way to be counted.

US SENATE
Precincts Reported: 2662 of 2662
Thom Tillis REP 2,640,379 48.73%
Cal Cunningham DEM 2,543,672 46.94%
Shannon W. Bray LIB 167,968 3.10%
Kevin E. Hayes CST 66,668 1.23%

Thom Cock beat Cal's dick.

US HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES DISTRICT 11
Precincts Reported: 304 of 304
Madison Cawthorn REP 243,898 54.52%
Moe Davis DEM 189,516 42.36%
Tracey DeBruhl LIB 8,565 1.91%
Tamara Zwinak GRE 5,417 1.21%

Not even close. I gotta get outta here.

Overall, 8-5 in the NC US House for the Repugs, which I think is an improvement for the Dems thanks to the courts' rulings on gerrymandering.


NC ATTORNEY GENERAL
Precincts Reported: 2662 of 2662
Josh Stein DEM 2,684,854 50.10%
Jim O'Neill REP 2,674,085 49.90%

Recount?

The rest of the Council of State are sooo close, mostly Repug.
https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/03 ... &contest=0

The NC SUPREME COURT and NC COURT OF APPEALS races all went to the Repugs, all close, some perhaps by recountable margins.
https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/03 ... &contest=0
Shit!

Henderson County sucks, pretty much 60-40 for the Repugs in every race.
https://er.ncsbe.gov/?election_dt=11/03 ... &contest=0
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I'm seeing 269 to 269 if Biden gets either Michigan or Georgia.
Trump wins the tie in the House.

DeSantis gave trump 29 votes, but Biden made little effort to win Florida
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Damn Biden's ahead in Michigan.
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And why the fuck didn't Biden beat the shit out of trump for trying to not count the deployed military vote?

Why isn't the so called liberal media saying this today?
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
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I'm seeing 269 to 269 if Biden gets either Michigan or Georgia.
Trump wins the tie in the House.

DeSantis gave trump 29 votes, but Biden made little effort to win Florida
My math must be busted, because I'm getting Biden with 270 if he wins Michigan, assuming he wins Wisconsin and Nevada? If Trump wins the remainder, he gets 268?
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My math must be busted, because I'm getting Biden with 270 if he wins Michigan, assuming he wins Wisconsin and Nevada? If Trump wins the remainder, he gets 268?
I agree with you.

POTUS

270 to win
238 - 213 for Joe.

Ga 16 EV
48% Joe
50% PINO
94% in
Still possible.

Mich 16 EV
49% Joe
49% PINO
94% in
Winner?!

Nev 6 EV
49% Joe
49% PINO
67% in
Winner?!

Pa 20 EV
44% Joe
55% PINO
64% in
Probably not?

Wis 10 EV
50% Joe
49% PINO
95% in
Winner?!

I'm going to count Mich, NV and WI for Joe = 270!!! Whew. GA and/or PA would be gravy.


Senate

3 + Joe or 4 without Joe for Dem control.

Dem pick ups: AZ, CO
Repug pick up: AL

Ga
Ossoff (D) 47%
Perdue (inc R) 51%
94% in
Still possible.

Ga. 2
Warnock (D) 32%
Loeffler (inc R) 26%
93% in
Difficult runoff coming.

Maine
Gideon (D) 43%
Collins (inc R) 51%
85% in
Insurmountable?

Mich
Peters (inc D) 49%
James (R) 49%
93% in
Yes!

Unless Joe wins and the Dems miraculously win both GA seats I think the Senate stays Repug. :(

IF Joe wins and Ossoff (D) somehow wins his GA seat, we may see $1B thrown into the runoff for the other GA seat.

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I'll be happy with a Biden presidency even if the GOP holds the senate. Nothing will get done, everything will be stalled, but at least that orange asshole will be gone(ish).
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Whack9 wrote:
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 9:21 am
I'm seeing 269 to 269 if Biden gets either Michigan or Georgia.
Trump wins the tie in the House.

DeSantis gave trump 29 votes, but Biden made little effort to win Florida
My math must be busted, because I'm getting Biden with 270 if he wins Michigan, assuming he wins Wisconsin and Nevada? If Trump wins the remainder, he gets 268?
I accidentally had Maine as trump
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The Remaining Vote in Pennsylvania Appears to Be Overwhelmingly for Biden

Hmmm. 8-)

In the immortal words of banni, "here we go....."

Trump falsely claims election win and says he wants 'all voting to stop' as Biden calls for 'patience'

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Bernie, Oct 23:

https://news.yahoo.com/bernie-sanders-d ... 49647.html

US Postal Service blows court-ordered deadline to check for missing ballots. About 300,000 can't be traced

:obscene-birdiered:
Dems head toward House control, but lose incumbents to GOP

Democrats drove Wednesday toward extending their control of the House for two more years but with a potentially shrunken majority as they lost at least six incumbents and failed to oust any Republican lawmakers in initial returns.

By 4 a.m. EST, Democrats' only gains were two North Carolina seats vacated by GOP incumbents after a court-ordered remapping made the districts more Democratic.
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Though they seemed likely to retain House control, their performance was an unexpected disappointment for the party, which hoped for modest gains of perhaps 15 seats.

After decades of trying, Republicans defeated 15-term Rep. Collin Peterson from a rural Minnesota district that backed President Donald Trump in 2016 by 31 percentage points, Trump's biggest margin in any Democratic-held district. Peterson, who chairs the House Agriculture Committee, opposed Trump's impeachment and is one of the House's most conservative Democrats. He was defeated by Republican Michelle Fischbach, the former lieutenant governor.
Good riddance, DINO.
Also losing were freshmen Democrats Debbie Mucarsel-Powell and Donna Shalala, health secretary under President Bill Clinton, in adjacent South Florida districts where Trump seemed to consolidate support among Cuban voters. Others defeated were Democratic freshmen Joe Cunningham of South Carolina, Xochitl Torres Small of New Mexico and Kendra Horn in Oklahoma, who had surprising victories in 2018 in districts Trump carried decisively in 2016....
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Wed Nov 04, 2020 10:06 am
I accidentally had Maine as trump
Maine at large, 2 EVs, and Maine 1, 1 EV, went for Joe.
Maine 2, 1 EV, is leaning towards PINO.
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