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Lester is in the building.

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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:19 pm

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I've also heard it could represent gamergate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamerga ... _campaign)
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:19 pm

Dad ran for mayor recently. You may know lots of people that have met dad, if not also the shooter.
I do.

Dad ran a convenience store that I've been in, uncle works at a mom and pop grocery store I go to.

Just got my haircut, the woman has met the kid.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:19 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Mon Jul 04, 2022 6:40 pm
... Anyone know what the triangle/square symbol is?
Alleged Parade Gunman Disguised Himself in Women’s Clothes, Ran Home to Mommy

... Much of Crimo’s social media presence includes a symbol that roughly resembles one used by Suomen Sisu, a far-right Finnish organization that “seeks to protect Finnish culture [and] traditions.” (Other Finns have described the group as “Nazi-spirited.”) Crimo, however, does not mention Suomen Sisu by name in his postings. He also served as the administrator of a Discord channel called “SS” that has since been taken down....
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Tue Jul 05, 2022 6:50 pm
I've also heard it could represent gamergate.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gamerga ... _campaign)
Could be. I did quick "Gamergate" and "Gamergate (harassment campaign)" image searches and did not come up with any similar symbols.
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Kamala Harris is here right now.
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Tue Jul 05, 2022 8:12 pm
Kamala Harris is here right now.
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Toddler found at Highland Park scene orphaned in shooting

The parents of a 2-year-old toddler who was found at the scene of the Highland Park shooting have both died, authorities confirmed Tuesday.

At a press conference, Jennifer Banek, the coroner for Lake County, read names of six of the seven victims who had died, including 35-year-old Irina McCarthy and 37-year-old Kevin McCarthy of Highland Park....

Friends of the couple have since taken to social media to mourn the couple and express their grief. A GoFundMe page has also been created to raise money to support their orphaned son, Aiden McCarthy.

The organizer of the page said it was created on behalf of his family, and with their permission. Aiden McCarthy will be raised by his grandparents, and the organizer shared that he “is left in the unthinkable position, to grow up without his parents.”

The GoFundMe page had raised more than $130,000 as of 5 p.m. on Tuesday.

Aiden was rescued from the shooting after a woman and her companions saw him pinned under his father, who was unconscious, while she on her way to get breakfast, The Daily Beast reported.
Dad died protecting Aiden. :cry: :cry: :cry: When and how do you tell him what happened?
... The other victims identified by The Lake County Coroner’s Office include Katherine Goldstein, 64, of Highland Park; Jacquelyn Sundheim, 63, of Highland Park; Stephen Straus, 88, of Highland Park, and Nicolas Toledo-Zaragoza, 78, of Morelos, Mexico.
88! Old enough to have survived the Korean War. The 7th deceased is not named in this article.

:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
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Tue Jul 05, 2022 9:27 pm
88! Old enough to have survived the Korean War. The 7th deceased is not named in this article.


:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
The 88 year olds son is a friend of a friend. I knew about him yesterday.

The seventh victim is most likely a child.

Adorable little boy. His picture was all over social media yesterday trying to find his parents. I feared this outcome.
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Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 pm
... Adorable little boy. His picture was all over social media yesterday trying to find his parents. I feared this outcome.
Yeah, but one or both could have been injured. Shit. That looks like blood on his left fingers and both legs. :(
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Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:29 pm

Yeah, but one or both could have been injured. Shit. That looks like blood on his left fingers and both legs. :(
Yeah.😥
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We have too many deeply fucked up people believing increasingly more deeply fucked up conspiracies and fantasies to allow for indiscriminate sales of guns.

This violence at every level has to stop.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:29 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Tue Jul 05, 2022 10:15 pm
... Adorable little boy. His picture was all over social media yesterday trying to find his parents. I feared this outcome.
Yeah, but one or both could have been injured. Shit. That looks like blood on his left fingers and both legs. :(
Over two million dollars has been raised for Aiden.
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Dad has lawyered up. Maybe the smartest thing he's done.

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Accomplice!
Charge him.

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Accomplice!
Charge him.
Guessing he's liable for something...yes?
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O Really wrote:
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Accomplice!
Charge him.
Guessing he's liable for something...yes?
I dunno. Standard disclaimer all I know about criminal law I learned on ID and Dateline, but if it wasn't a gun, but some other product provided to a person who caused harm, the father would certainly be in the civil suit defendant line. But since a crime was committed, it looks like a reasonably creative prosecutor could drag him in somewhere. He knew or should have known that his kid was not particularly stable - including apparently a suicide attempt - and had a lot of violent imagery in his music and social media. He knew or should have known the kid has a big collection of knives not intended for whittling or cutting steak. Yet he became the primary link in the chain that let the kid legally buy a piece of killing equipment. Illinois law may disagree, but logic alone would ask "how can he not be liable?"

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The prosecutor just had a press conference and wouldn't comment on possible charges for dad.

Talking heads think charges are coming.
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The term "aid and abet" comes to mind. One might ask, if the father hadn't sponsored the kid for a gun card, could/would the kid have shot up the parade. Well, maybe, but it would have been more difficult to get the gun. He'd have to steal one, buy one from a criminal gun-running chain, go out of state and try where the rules are different, etc. And he'd have to keep it hidden from the parents. So while the kid could have done his deed without the father's help, the father clearly facilitated the attack and made it easier and, by extension, more likely. Hammer his ass.

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It got a little closer.

Just found out from a family friend that one of the victims lived across the street and a block down from me when I was a little kid in Deerfield Illinois.

Vague memory of her and her name changed.

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I just walked the perimeter of downtown Highland Park. It's very different feel than seeing it on television. It was palpable, seeing all the backpacks, water bottles and lawn chairs still lining Central was unsettling

People we're coming and laying flowers.
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GoCubsGo wrote:
Wed Jul 06, 2022 6:51 pm
I just walked the perimeter of downtown Highland Park. It's very different feel than seeing it on television. It was palpable, seeing all the backpacks, water bottles and lawn chairs still lining Central was unsettling

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Bullet holes in buildings and pavement?
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