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Whack9 wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 5:20 pm
What a sick country we live in.
:angry-banghead: Russia and Ukraine can unite in pitying us.

Robb Elementary is 2nd-4th grades only. So, mostly 8-11 year olds. Someone should have armed them.

Thursday was due to be the last day of school.

UCISD (Uvalde Consolidated Independent School District) is committed to providing a safe and secure environment for students, staff and visitors.

Sigh.
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Tue May 24, 2022 4:35 pm
... Here we go again. :cry:

Multiple fatalities, including several children, after 'active shooter' incident at Texas elementary school: Sources
The suspect in the shooting is also dead, according to sources.


Update: 14 children and 1 teacher are dead.
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

Fyi, Uvalde, TX is 78.46% Hispanic or Latino, and it might be safe to guess that the elementary school proportion is greater. I'll go out on a limb and guess that the 18 year old shooter is Anglo.
My bad :oops: , Salvador Ramos.
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Vrede too wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 4:35 pm
... Here we go again. :cry:

Just heard 18 children and three adults.
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Tue May 24, 2022 7:22 pm
Just heard 18 children and three adults.
Yeah, 18 kids. Sandy Hook was 20. I'm seeing some variability on the number of dead adults, most recently back down to 1. Sandy Hook was 6. I'm not hearing a tally for the number of wounded, yet.

212 mass shootings in this year's 144 days. Also 30 school shootings, more than 1 every 5 days, but I'm not sure if that's just mass shootings or not.
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Another day, more shootings in America. Usual people will say the usual things and everybody moves on. In other news...

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Whack9 wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 5:20 pm
What a sick country we live in.
I'm just finding out about this.

"Sick country" is right on target. It's like the entire Right has become a fast growing cancer.

Time to split this place up nice and slow at the ballot box. I want out of their shit-hole country.
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The kid shooter (photo above) reminds me of a young Richard Ramirez aka the Night Stalker.

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O Really wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:04 pm
Another day, more shootings in America. Usual people will say the usual things and everybody moves on. In other news...
. . . and you post a depressing, though accurate, assessment. :P

GOP Rep. Paul Gosar spread a baseless transphobic rumor that the Uvalde school shooting suspect was a 'transsexual leftist illegal alien'

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Take your fake thoughts and empty prayers and shove it

You are an NRA shill. There is a river of blood dripping from your hands
What good is any of that when you refuse to use your power to protect the children, men and women of your state?
And fervently cashing those checks from gun rights groups.

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And you have called attempts to repeal gun laws ‘ridiculous theatre’ from Democrats. Isn’t the ‘ridiculous theatre’ a tweet like this, which offers prayers as though that is all that can be done to deal with this crisis?
you should open with this when you speak at the NRA rally in Houston later this week you spineless piece of shit
Article and more scathing.
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neoplacebo wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 7:28 am
The kid shooter (photo above) reminds me of a young Richard Ramirez aka the Night Stalker.
:shock:
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Tue May 24, 2022 7:08 pm
... Salvador Ramos.
https://heavy.com/news/salvador-ramos/

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Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 7:37 am
O Really wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:04 pm
Another day, more shootings in America. Usual people will say the usual things and everybody moves on. In other news...
. . . and you post a depressing, though accurate, assessment. :P

I feel sorry for the families of those killed as well as the injured. It's a tragedy of unimaginable misery. I also feel sorry for the millions of kids who aren't eating enough, and the thousands of people losing their homes to fire, flood, loss of employment. I feel sorry for the homeless people trying to survive on the street with everybody hassling and nobody helping. But there's a better chance of the US getting all its kids fed and homes for all the homeless than there is anybody will doing anything meaninful - hell or probably at all - about gun violence in the US.

So sure, it's sad, but just another day in the good ol' US of A.
(maybe I'll work on a song with that line)

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O Really wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:49 am
Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 7:37 am
O Really wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:04 pm
Another day, more shootings in America. Usual people will say the usual things and everybody moves on. In other news...
. . . and you post a depressing, though accurate, assessment. :P

I feel sorry for the families of those killed as well as the injured. It's a tragedy of unimaginable misery. I also feel sorry for the millions of kids who aren't eating enough, and the thousands of people losing their homes to fire, flood, loss of employment. I feel sorry for the homeless people trying to survive on the street with everybody hassling and nobody helping. But there's a better chance of the US getting all its kids fed and homes for all the homeless than there is anybody will doing anything meaninful - hell or probably at all - about gun violence in the US.

So sure, it's sad, but just another day in the good ol' US of A.
(maybe I'll work on a song with that line)
Well, the Steve Miller Band had the song "Living in the USA" in 68......two years (I think) after Charles Whitman shot a bunch of people from the campus tower at the University of Texas. But back then this kind of thing wasn't a common occurrence like now. And back then the NRA was more of a gun safety advocate than anything else. We've become strangers in a strange land in just about every way.

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We could adapt Skynrd's "Saturday Night Special" to cover AR-15's, high capacity magazines, 9mm semi-autos, mac10's, and all the rest of the military grade implements of war that anybody can buy easier than buying a car.

Two feets they come a creepin
Like a black cat do
And two bodies are layin' naked.
Creeper think he got nothin' to lose.
So he creeps into this house, yeah
And unlocks the door
And as a man's reaching for his trousers
Shoots him full of thirty-eight holes.
Mr. Saturday night special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin
But put a man six feet in a hole
Big Jim's been drinkin' whiskey
And playin' poker on a losin' night
And pretty soon ol' Jim starts a thinkin
Somebody been cheatin' and lyin'.
So big Jim commence to fightin'
I wouldn't tell you no lie.
Big Jim done pulled his pistol
Shot his friend right between the eyes.
Mr. Saturday night special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin
But put a man six feet in a hole
Hand guns are made for killin'
They ain't no good for nothin' else.
And if you like to drink your whiskey
You might even shoot yourself.
So why don't we dump 'em people
To the bottom of the sea
Before some ol' fool come around here
Wanna shoot either you or me.
Mr. Saturday night special
Got a barrel that's blue and cold
Ain't good for nothin
But put a man six feet in a hole
It's the saturday night special
And I'd like to tell you what you could do with it too
And that's the end of the song

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This website captures deleted tweets from people in government

https://projects.propublica.org/politwoops/
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Some people argue that more laws making it more difficult to get guns aren't the answer, as criminals don't follow the laws, so they'll still commit firearm related crimes.

In the last two shooting sprees, both killers obtained their weapons legally. The law was enforced, the guns were obtained within the parameters of the law, but many people were murdered.

Therefore the law failed. Does that not mean we need to fix the law in order to make it more difficult for mass shootings to happen?
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Whack9 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:57 pm
Some people argue that more laws making it more difficult to get guns aren't the answer, as criminals don't follow the laws, so they'll still commit firearm related crimes.

In the last two shooting sprees, both killers obtained their weapons legally. The law was enforced, the guns were obtained within the parameters of the law, but many people were murdered.

Therefore the law failed. Does that not mean we need to fix the law in order to make it more difficult for mass shootings to happen?
I would say yes. But instead several states have recently enacted "laws" (introduced and championed by Republican state legislative lemmings) that allow anyone, and I mean anyone, to buy and carry a concealed weapon with no background check, no safety training, no nothing. Makes perfect sense if you belong to the cult of lies and ignorance.

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Whack9 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:57 pm
Some people argue that more laws making it more difficult to get guns aren't the answer, as criminals don't follow the laws, so they'll still commit firearm related crimes.

Using that logic, one would have to argue that there is no point in having any laws at all since there are always criminals who do not follow them. Why have laws against murder since there are still people who murder? Why have laws against robbery since there are still people who rob?

And sure, even with strict laws, yesterday's shooter may have been able to get his hands on an assault rifle, but he couldn't have done it by walking into a retail gun shop on his 18th birthday. Would anybody argue that it's not way easier to legally buy a gun at the shop than it would be if he had had to steal it? Or get it from some controlled source that screened purchasers?

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O Really wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 10:49 am
Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 7:37 am
O Really wrote:
Tue May 24, 2022 9:04 pm
Another day, more shootings in America. Usual people will say the usual things and everybody moves on. In other news...
. . . and you post a depressing, though accurate, assessment. :P
I feel sorry for the families of those killed as well as the injured. It's a tragedy of unimaginable misery. I also feel sorry for the millions of kids who aren't eating enough, and the thousands of people losing their homes to fire, flood, loss of employment. I feel sorry for the homeless people trying to survive on the street with everybody hassling and nobody helping. But there's a better chance of the US getting all its kids fed and homes for all the homeless than there is anybody will doing anything meaninful - hell or probably at all - about gun violence in the US.

So sure, it's sad, but just another day in the good ol' US of A.
(maybe I'll work on a song with that line)
Yup :( . For example:
https://news.yahoo.com/gunman-kills-19- ... 00636.html
... The attack came as the school was counting down to the last days of the school year with a series of themed days. Tuesday was to be “Footloose and Fancy,” with students wearing nice outfits.

Texas, which has some of the most gun-friendly laws in the nation, has been the site of some of the deadliest shootings in the U.S. over the past five years.

In 2018, a gunman killed 10 people at Santa Fe High School in the Houston area. A year before that, a gunman shot more than two dozen people to death during a Sunday service in the small town of Sutherland Springs. In 2019, a gunman at a Walmart in El Paso killed 23 people in a racist attack targeting Hispanics.

The shooting came days before the National Rifle Association annual convention was set to begin in Houston. The governor and both of Texas’ U.S. senators, all of them Republicans, were among the scheduled speakers at a forum Friday.
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Whack9 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:57 pm
Some people argue that more laws making it more difficult to get guns aren't the answer, as criminals don't follow the laws, so they'll still commit firearm related crimes.

In the last two shooting sprees, both killers obtained their weapons legally. The law was enforced, the guns were obtained within the parameters of the law, but many people were murdered.

Therefore the law failed. Does that not mean we need to fix the law in order to make it more difficult for mass shootings to happen?
I have yet to see the name of the shop that sold Ramos the guns and ammo soon after he turned 18. If any of you come across it please share. Same for the manufacturers. I want to send them a neo fish slap.
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Vrede too wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 5:28 pm
Whack9 wrote:
Wed May 25, 2022 2:57 pm
Some people argue that more laws making it more difficult to get guns aren't the answer, as criminals don't follow the laws, so they'll still commit firearm related crimes.

In the last two shooting sprees, both killers obtained their weapons legally. The law was enforced, the guns were obtained within the parameters of the law, but many people were murdered.

Therefore the law failed. Does that not mean we need to fix the law in order to make it more difficult for mass shootings to happen?
I have yet to see the name of the shop that sold Ramos the guns and ammo soon after he turned 18. If any of you come across it please share. Same for the manufacturers. I want to send them a neo fish slap.
I will do the same. I've not searched for gun shops in that small town but I'm sure there is at least one but I don't want to jump the gun so to speak.

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Vrede too wrote:
Wed Mar 30, 2022 1:00 pm
Once again, desperate Useless flails about for an old post that he ignored earlier to reply to just so he can post after me in a thread. Childish.
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neoplacebo did answer your question - Remington rifle used at Sandy Hook and their particular ads - and you've earned all insults. Grow up and own it.
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AFAIK, "sea cow" means manatee....
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Awww. :violin: , Useless. So much for "Ignored". You fail again. Plus, Useless, you've been busted too many times for anyone to believe you're not reading my posts, anyhow. It's just your excuse for cowering. Awww.
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