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neoplacebo wrote:
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Hard to say. But it's no secret that warring armies tend to exaggerate their victories and minimize their defeats or mistakes. I just find it hard to believe that a thousand Russian soldiers died at this pontoon bridge. You can figure maybe a dozen or twenty at most in one of those hefty brute road blasters, only three or four in a tank. Even if Ukraine blasted hell out of the area around the place I doubt a thousand Russians would have died. I think the best thing would be to send Peter Navarro there on a fact finding mission.
Not disagreeing with you, but some perhaps most of the destroyed armor was APCs. -0-?

"hefty brute road blasters"?
:lol: Well, I did admit to never having been in an army. I could have typed Strykers or Bradleys but just decided to call the Russian transports hefty brute road blasters. Besides, I figure that's what a Ukrainian farmer would call them.
Wrong, a Ukrainian farmer would call them "FUCKING hefty brute road blasters."

I should have known that a commander of hefty brute SEA LANE blasters would use that name for APCs. :doh: ;)

Neither of these links answer our questions, but they offer more info:

This video shows Russian force destruction well away from the bridge:
Russian ‘tank graveyard’ after 52 vehicles blown up in one battle as Putin forced into retreat
It was supposedly all done by Ukrainian artillery.

This article states that it was two pontoon bridges:
https://news.yahoo.com/ukrainian-milita ... 00570.html
It sounds like a sizeable Russian force was allowed to cross one or both bridges before the bridge/s were destroyed and the invaders were trapped.

Different locale and date:


Russian tank explodes hurling turret 250ft into the air after Ukrainian missile strike

Wow, can you imagine capturing that on your dash cam?
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Britain says Russia has lost a third of its forces in Ukraine

Russia has probably lost around a third of the ground forces it deployed to Ukraine and its offensive in the Donbas region "has lost momentum and fallen significantly behind schedule", British military intelligence said on Sunday.

"Despite small-scale initial advances, Russia has failed to achieve substantial territorial gains over the past month whilst sustaining consistently high levels of attrition," the British defence ministry said on Twitter.

"Russia has now likely suffered losses of one third of the ground combat force it committed in February."

It said Russia was unlikely to dramatically accelerate its rate of advance over the next 30 days.

Since Russia's invasion on Feb. 24, Ukraine's military has forced Russia's commanders to abandon an advance on the capital Kyiv, before making rapid gains in the northeast and driving them away from the second biggest city of Kharkiv....
"one third" :shock:
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Britain says Russia has lost a third of its forces in Ukraine

Russia has probably lost around a third of the ground forces it deployed to Ukraine and its offensive in the Donbas region "has lost momentum and fallen significantly behind schedule", British military intelligence said on Sunday.

"Despite small-scale initial advances, Russia has failed to achieve substantial territorial gains over the past month whilst sustaining consistently high levels of attrition," the British defence ministry said on Twitter.

"Russia has now likely suffered losses of one third of the ground combat force it committed in February."

It said Russia was unlikely to dramatically accelerate its rate of advance over the next 30 days.

Since Russia's invasion on Feb. 24, Ukraine's military has forced Russia's commanders to abandon an advance on the capital Kyiv, before making rapid gains in the northeast and driving them away from the second biggest city of Kharkiv....
"one third" :shock:
Been reading a history* of WWII lately ... 30% loss perhaps was not unusual for Russian forces fighting back the Germans in 1940. All the references I found on a quick search deal with raw numbers, not percentages... OK, Russia lost 27 million souls in WWII, of which is estimated 8.7 million were lost to combat. So this may help Putie-Poot pass this off as yet another Great Patriotic War ...

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neoplacebo wrote:
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Having never been in an army, I will guess that an engineering battalion erecting a pontoon bridge that will take several hours to accomplish will not have all the troops and vehicles intending to cross it just standing around waiting for the bridge to be completed. I have to assume a lot of this activity was observed in real time by Ukrainians and of course they waited until the bridge was finished to attack. I just don't believe that many Russians were killed in this particular incident. Maybe 150 or 200 but not 1,000
Yes, the wrecked armor in and near the water indicates that the bridge was completed. -0-? about the troops, but I think that Forbes is a more credible source than some. Maybe the source article elaborates on the estimate. There's drone video that indicates action in a wider area than just the bridge. Maybe the estimates are for the larger battle.

Or, it's all pro-Ukrainian :bs: .
Hard to say. But it's no secret that warring armies tend to exaggerate their victories and minimize their defeats or mistakes. I just find it hard to believe that a thousand Russian soldiers died at this pontoon bridge. You can figure maybe a dozen or twenty at most in one of those hefty brute road blasters, only three or four in a tank. Even if Ukraine blasted hell out of the area around the place I doubt a thousand Russians would have died. I think the best thing would be to send Peter Navarro there on a fact finding mission.
This article dated just a couple of hours ago quotes the NY Times report that "about 400" Russians soldiers died in the aborted river crossing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-thwa ... 27717.html

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This article dated just a couple of hours ago quotes the NY Times report that "about 400" Russians soldiers died in the aborted river crossing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-thwa ... 27717.html
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... well over 400 Russian soldiers were killed or wounded ...

Russia reportedly committed about 550 troops to its highly risky May 11 effort to cross the Donets River at Bilohorivka ...
Wow, huge percentage of loss.

It's supposedly more than just these 2 pontoon bridges:

Nine Russian attempts to cross river in Donbas thwarted by Ukrainian paratroopers
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This article dated just a couple of hours ago quotes the NY Times report that "about 400" Russians soldiers died in the aborted river crossing.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/russias-thwa ... 27717.html
You were correct all along. :-|| This is why you are such a major military man while I am merely a spiritual leader.
... well over 400 Russian soldiers were killed or wounded ...

Russia reportedly committed about 550 troops to its highly risky May 11 effort to cross the Donets River at Bilohorivka ...
Wow, huge percentage of loss.

It's supposedly more than just these 2 pontoon bridges:

Nine Russian attempts to cross river in Donbas thwarted by Ukrainian paratroopers
Yeah, when I first read that story that 1,000 soldiers died at that scene, I was suspicious right off. Seemed way too high even if one assumes the assault was led by trump junior. I was officially a petty military man; not a major one. At least that was my official title....petty officer, second class. Even at the time I thought it was a term of denigration. But all things considered, it was definitely a step up from being just semen. :lol:

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Yeah, when I first read that story that 1,000 soldiers died at that scene, I was suspicious right off. Seemed way too high even if one assumes the assault was led by trump junior. I was officially a petty military man; not a major one. At least that was my official title....petty officer, second class. Even at the time I thought it was a term of denigration. But all things considered, it was definitely a step up from being just semen. :lol:
:D Eww. Anyhow, I was referring to you now being Admiral of the Fleet. No wonder you've got an eye for battle damage, especially if water is involved.
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Yeah, when I first read that story that 1,000 soldiers died at that scene, I was suspicious right off. Seemed way too high even if one assumes the assault was led by trump junior. I was officially a petty military man; not a major one. At least that was my official title....petty officer, second class. Even at the time I thought it was a term of denigration. But all things considered, it was definitely a step up from being just semen. :lol:
:D Eww. Anyhow, I was referring to you now being Admiral of the Fleet. No wonder you've got an eye for battle damage, especially if water is involved.
I've been dealing with battle damage before battle damage was a thing. I fought my way through pervasive battle damage as just semen but eventually became Admiral of the Fleet (albeit at my own request) and since then have wrestled giant squids, rode with porpoises, intimidated other semen, and just generally carried on like there's no tomorrow or other Admiral. I know it can't last but nothing does. Go Ukraine. Beat bullshit.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 12:36 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Mon May 16, 2022 9:36 am
Yeah, when I first read that story that 1,000 soldiers died at that scene, I was suspicious right off. Seemed way too high even if one assumes the assault was led by trump junior. I was officially a petty military man; not a major one. At least that was my official title....petty officer, second class. Even at the time I thought it was a term of denigration. But all things considered, it was definitely a step up from being just semen. :lol:
:D Eww. Anyhow, I was referring to you now being Admiral of the Fleet. No wonder you've got an eye for battle damage, especially if water is involved.
I've been dealing with battle damage before battle damage was a thing. I fought my way through pervasive battle damage as just semen but eventually became Admiral of the Fleet (albeit at my own request) and since then have wrestled giant squids, rode with porpoises, intimidated other semen, and just generally carried on like there's no tomorrow or other Admiral. I know it can't last but nothing does. Go Ukraine. Beat bullshit.
Check your spelling.

I think what you meant to write was "seamen", and not "semen".

Unless you want to spew all over the world with your seed.

Which perhaps wouldn't be surprising, but count me out, please.

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Same pontoons battle:

See the shattered Russian armor after Ukrainian soldiers stop advance (video)

"70 to 80 vehicles destroyed and an entire Russian battle group of 1000 men mauled," whatever mauled means.
Former Russian colonel criticizes the country's invasion of Ukraine on state television

In rare public criticism of the conduct of Russia's military operations in Ukraine, a former senior Russian officer has warned on state television that the situation will get worse.

"Let's not drink 'information tranquilizers,' because sometimes information is spread about some moral or psychological breakdown of Ukraine's armed forces, as if they are nearing a crisis of morale or a fracture," retired Col. Mikhail Khodarenok said on Monday’s edition of Rossiya One’s 60 Minutes show. "None of this is close to reality."

Despite pushback from the show’s presenter, Khodarenok said that Ukraine could arm one million people.

"Considering that European aid will come into full effect and one million armed Ukrainian soldiers can join the fight, we need to see this reality of the near future, and we need to consider that in our operational and strategic calculations. The situation for us will frankly get worse," he said.

Khodarenok, a regular commentator in Russian media, also commented on Russia's broader isolation.

"Let's look at this situation as a whole from our overall strategic position," he said. "Let’s not swing missiles in Finland's direction – this just looks ridiculous. The biggest problem with our military and political situation is that we are in total geopolitical isolation. And the whole world is against us — even if we don’t want to admit it." ...
Update: In a freak accident former Russian colonel drowns in own bathtub
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oops - we sent thousands of javelin missiles, but forgot the batteries.

It took a while but they rigged up some motorcycle batteries and some old computer parts and killed a tank.

https://youtu.be/LjgrRx1eyBc
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oops - we sent thousands of javelin missiles, but forgot the batteries.

It took a while but they rigged up some motorcycle batteries and some old computer parts and killed a tank.

https://youtu.be/LjgrRx1eyBc
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Ukraine forces destroy Russian column with Corsar guided missile launcher

Ukrainian Guardsman blasts a Russian armoured vehicle with a Corsar guided missile launcher from a distance of 1.5 miles.

The Centre for Strategic Communications (StratCom) said on 6th June: “With each shot, the Ukrainian defender reduces the enemy equipment!

“This is the work of a National Guardsman with the call sign ‘Hulk’ in Donbas. The warrior owns the Corsar system and neutralised enemy equipment from a distance of 2.5 kilometres (1.55 miles)!”

SratCom added: “Real superheroes are defending Ukraine!”

In the footage, ‘Hulk’ is seen shooting a missile from the launcher before apparently hitting an enemy armoured vehicle travelling along the road. By the end of the clip, the whole convoy has been destroyed.

Russian troops invaded Ukraine on 24th February in what the Kremlin is still calling a "special military operation". Today marks the 104th day of the campaign.

From 24th February to 6th June, the total combat losses of Russian troops stand at around 31,250 personnel, according to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The Ukrainian military also claims that Russia has lost 1,386 tanks, 3,400 armoured fighting vehicles, 690 artillery systems, 207 multiple launch rocket systems, 96 anti-aircraft systems, 211 warplanes, 176 helicopters, 2,395 motor vehicles and fuel tankers, 13 vessels, 551 unmanned aerial vehicles, 53 units of special equipment, and 125 cruise missiles.

Meanwhile, the Ukrainian Centre for Strategic Communications (StratCom) claimed on 6th June that Russian Major General Roman Kutuzov was killed in a battle near Popasna in the Luhansk region.

StratCom said: “Exclusive. Meet. Commander of the DNR's 1st Army Corps (of the orcs), Major General Roman Kutuzov has been officially denazified and demilitarized”....
Grain of salt, of course, but whatever portion is true . . .
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Not independently verified yet:

US Harpoon missiles destroyed a heavily-armed Russian vessel in the Black Sea, say Ukraine's military (with video)

Sketchy headline. They were missile given to Ukraine by the US, not fired by the US.

If true, the Spasatel Vasily Bekh was not a small tug.
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More war porn, I keep getting lured in by the YT algorithm.

Ukrainian forces take out fleeing Russian tank with deadly missile
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IF-Jukqo58

Homemade missile system takes out two Russian vehicles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywIqSVPQbo4
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Russian journalist's Nobel Peace Prize fetches record $103.5 mln at auction to aid Ukraine children

Dmitry Muratov, the co-winner of the 2021 Nobel Peace Prize and the editor of one of Russia's last major independent newspapers, auctioned off his Nobel medal for a record $103.5 million to aid children displaced by the war in Ukraine.

All proceeds from the auction, which coincided with the World Refugee Day on Monday, will benefit UNICEF's humanitarian response for Ukraine's displaced children, Heritage Auctions, which conducted the sale in New York, said in a statement.

Muratov's Novaya Gazeta newspaper, fiercely critical of President Vladimir Putin and his government, suspended operations in Russia in March after warnings from the state over its coverage of the war in Ukraine.

Pressure against liberal Russian media outlets has been continuous under Putin, Russia's paramount leader since 1999, but it has mounted after Moscow sent troops into Ukraine on Feb. 24. Muratov was attacked with red paint in April.

According to U.S. media reports, the auction of Muratov's prize shattered the record for any Nobel medal that has been auctioned off, with reports saying that the previous highest sale fetched just under $5 million....
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