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Drug dealers are independent contractors; some are better than others. Cops are socialist workers; some are better than others. And I suppose that's a tacit endorsement of capitalism.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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Drug dealers are independent contractors; some are better than others. Cops are socialist workers; some are better than others. And I suppose that's a tacit endorsement of capitalism.
Many work for a boss. They deserve full benefits, esp workers' comp, incarceration stipends and death benefits. I suppose that's a tacit endorsement of socialism. Idk why there's no campaign for this, but there's only one way such change will ever happen.


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Democrats' coronavirus relief plan would raise minimum wage to $9.50 this year

House Democrats are working on details of their graduated plan to raise the U.S. federal minimum wage to $15/hour.

Democrats are looking to include the first hike to the federal minimum wage since 2009 in President Biden's coronavirus relief bill. They plan to revise the proposal Tuesday, but it so far includes a quick increase from the current minimum wage of $7.25 to $9.50 within the year. It will then grow annually until hitting $15 in 2025. Meanwhile the tipped minimum wage of $2.50 will rise to $4.95 this year, and again increase until it matches the federal wage. The youth subminimum wage paid to people under 20 will also end up matching the regular minimum wage by 2027, and permits to pay subminimum wage will no longer be distributed....
Not that I'm looking for work ;) , but my local Burger King is advertising for closing shift workers at $11/hr :shock: . I guess there's no job shortage here.
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To meet the equivalent of the $1,60 minimum in 1970, they'd need to raise it to $10.74.
If you look for who and how many actually make $7.25 or less, it's not that many (<2%), and when you deduct the majority of those in food service whose actual wage is hourly+tips. But the actual focus should be on those earning less than the 1970ish equivalent, and that would be quite a few more, as about 42% of the hourly workforce is making less that $15. So yeah, raise the minimum, but it does look like the states and the market has made the federal rate less relevant.

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To meet the equivalent of the $1,60 minimum in 1970, they'd need to raise it to $10.74.
If you look for who and how many actually make $7.25 or less, it's not that many (<2%), and when you deduct the majority of those in food service whose actual wage is hourly+tips. But the actual focus should be on those earning less than the 1970ish equivalent, and that would be quite a few more, as about 42% of the hourly workforce is making less that $15. So yeah, raise the minimum, but it does look like the states and the market has made the federal rate less relevant.
Workers in red states without an initiative process are still screwed. :(
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Workers in red states without an initiative process are still screwed. :(
Probably will always be. The states with the greatest number of workers at or under the federal minimum are Louisiana and South Carolina. A lot of smaller local businesses aren't actually covered under the FLSA.

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To meet the equivalent of the $1,60 minimum in 1970, they'd need to raise it to $10.74.
If you look for who and how many actually make $7.25 or less, it's not that many (<2%), and when you deduct the majority of those in food service whose actual wage is hourly+tips. But the actual focus should be on those earning less than the 1970ish equivalent, and that would be quite a few more, as about 42% of the hourly workforce is making less that $15. So yeah, raise the minimum, but it does look like the states and the market has made the federal rate less relevant.
The first job I ever had paid $1.25 an hour. It was tending to a machine that extruded plastic pipe and I was in charge of shepherding that pipe onto another large reel about forty feet away from where the pipe was coming out of the womb. It was hell and at night and I quit after a few days. It was my first indication that there was something wrong with America.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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The first job I ever had paid $1.25 an hour. It was tending to a machine that extruded plastic pipe and I was in charge of shepherding that pipe onto another large reel about forty feet away from where the pipe was coming out of the womb. It was hell and at night and I quit after a few days. It was my first indication that there was something wrong with America.
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Workers beg Joe Manchin to save West Virginia pharma plant as his daughter walks away with $31 million

More than 1,400 workers in West Virginia are set to lose their jobs this week when the Viatris pharmaceuticals plant in Morgantown shuts down and moves operations overseas to India and Australia. Workers say they've had no response to their urgent requests for help from their Democratic senator, Joe Manchin, who is often called the most powerful man in Washington. Viatris was formed through a merger between two pharmaceutical companies, Mylan and Upjohn. Mylan's chief executive, Manchin's daughter Heather Bresch, got a $31 million payout as a result of the corporate consolidation before the new company set about cutting costs, including the closure of the Morgantown plant. Joseph Gouzd, president of United Steelworkers of America Local 8-957 and a worker at the plant, says Viatris has given little reason for the closure except to say the company is looking to "maximize the best interests of the shareholders." We also speak with investigative journalist Katherine Eban, who says moving pharmaceutical production overseas contradicts the recommendations of numerous reports that have found major safety lapses in drug manufacturing abroad, as well as concern from lawmakers about keeping a key industry within the United States. "This is pure insanity," Eban says. "It seems like it is both pharmaceutical and national security suicide to close this plant." ...
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:58 pm
$14.50 is pretty big in Alabama.

https://www.al.com/news/2021/10/auburn- ... rkers.html
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A Florida restaurant chain says boosting pay and offering better benefits helped it end its labor shortage

Daaayyum, that's genius.
... The company said sales were considerably higher in its restaurants that were well-staffed. Comparable third-quarter restaurant sales across all restaurants were up 0.9% compared to the same quarter in 2019, rising to a 4.3% increase across restaurants that had adequate staffing, Stockinger said....
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neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:50 pm
O Really wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:34 pm
To meet the equivalent of the $1,60 minimum in 1970, they'd need to raise it to $10.74.
If you look for who and how many actually make $7.25 or less, it's not that many (<2%), and when you deduct the majority of those in food service whose actual wage is hourly+tips. But the actual focus should be on those earning less than the 1970ish equivalent, and that would be quite a few more, as about 42% of the hourly workforce is making less that $15. So yeah, raise the minimum, but it does look like the states and the market has made the federal rate less relevant.
The first job I ever had paid $1.25 an hour. It was tending to a machine that extruded plastic pipe and I was in charge of shepherding that pipe onto another large reel about forty feet away from where the pipe was coming out of the womb. It was hell and at night and I quit after a few days. It was my first indication that there was something wrong with America.
First job I had was when I was about 12 yo. $0.50/hr, helping out at a local 5+10, back around 1965, in the pre-hippie Haight.

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Ulysses wrote:
Fri Nov 12, 2021 10:57 pm
neoplacebo wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 5:50 pm
O Really wrote:
Tue Feb 09, 2021 1:34 pm
To meet the equivalent of the $1,60 minimum in 1970, they'd need to raise it to $10.74.
If you look for who and how many actually make $7.25 or less, it's not that many (<2%), and when you deduct the majority of those in food service whose actual wage is hourly+tips. But the actual focus should be on those earning less than the 1970ish equivalent, and that would be quite a few more, as about 42% of the hourly workforce is making less that $15. So yeah, raise the minimum, but it does look like the states and the market has made the federal rate less relevant.
The first job I ever had paid $1.25 an hour. It was tending to a machine that extruded plastic pipe and I was in charge of shepherding that pipe onto another large reel about forty feet away from where the pipe was coming out of the womb. It was hell and at night and I quit after a few days. It was my first indication that there was something wrong with America.
First job I had was when I was about 12 yo. $0.50/hr, helping out at a local 5+10, back around 1965, in the pre-hippie Haight.
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Tell the truth, I don't really remember what I was getting paid at the five and dime. Might have been 10 cents/hr, for all I know. I know it couldn't have been more than 50 cents, though. It was probably illegal whatever it was. LOL.

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First "real" job was at A&P for the minimum $1.00/hr. I think I usually got about 10 hours/week, about $9.00 after taxes.
$3.00 for gas
$2.00 for a couple of movie tickets with popcorn/drink
$2.00 for a couple of McD burgers w/fries and drink
$2.00 to last the rest of the week.
Life wasn't bad.

Life got better. Best part-time job I had in college was at the original "Peddler" steak house restaurant, which was down the street from my frat house. Started doing general grunt work, then salad prep, then cooking. After not long, my best friend and I were pretty much running it. Not without supervision of the owner, but operationally. We got paid $5.00 (minimum at the time was about $1.25), got a free meal every night, were allowed to drink owner-provided scotch while cooking at the open charcoal-fired grill, hired our girlfriends, and actually got some good business experience.

The restaurant turned into a chain, mostly franchised, and some still exist today.
Like this one.
https://www.peddlerofboone.com/

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O Really wrote:
Sat Nov 13, 2021 1:10 am
First "real" job was at A&P for the minimum $1.00/hr. I think I usually got about 10 hours/week, about $9.00 after taxes.
$3.00 for gas
$2.00 for a couple of movie tickets with popcorn/drink
$2.00 for a couple of McD burgers w/fries and drink
$2.00 to last the rest of the week.
Life wasn't bad.

Life got better. Best part-time job I had in college was at the original "Peddler" steak house restaurant, which was down the street from my frat house. Started doing general grunt work, then salad prep, then cooking. After not long, my best friend and I were pretty much running it. Not without supervision of the owner, but operationally. We got paid $5.00 (minimum at the time was about $1.25), got a free meal every night, were allowed to drink owner-provided scotch while cooking at the open charcoal-fired grill, hired our girlfriends, and actually got some good business experience.

The restaurant turned into a chain, mostly franchised, and some still exist today.
Like this one.
https://www.peddlerofboone.com/
May I ask what year you started working at the A&P?

(I remember there was at least one A&P in Connecticut. Haven't seen one in California.)

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