Education thread

[Vrede too]

I'm gonna go with these two possibles......she asserted her right to chose which elective courses she takes. AND from the facts of the matter, I sort of think this woman had an agenda all along, figuring to display her own superior (in her mind) views on the subject in a forum she likely thought was diametrically opposed to her views.

She did not fail the class because of her writings; she failed because she didn't follow the assignment parameters. Now she's a victim and an instant hero to the trump cult of perpetual victimhood.

I'll go further than that. I'll bet that she was a Turning Point plant all along. It's telling that the best infiltrator TP could find is such a crappy student.

[neoplacebo]

I'm gonna go with these two possibles......she asserted her right to chose which elective courses she takes. AND from the facts of the matter, I sort of think this woman had an agenda all along, figuring to display her own superior (in her mind) views on the subject in a forum she likely thought was diametrically opposed to her views.

She did not fail the class because of her writings; she failed because she didn't follow the assignment parameters. Now she's a victim and an instant hero to the trump cult of perpetual victimhood.

I'll go further than that. I'll bet that she was a Turning Point plant all along. It's telling that the best infiltrator TP could find is such a crappy student.

Yeah, I suppose it's possible. Or a Hillsdale plant. Or some Libs of Tik Tok idiot looking to get famous. Or she could just be a substandard student. Obviously she cannot comprehend and follow an assignment. Didn't the article say she was a junior? I don't remember. If so, she's had a couple of years to get with the plan so maybe she's just a less than average student. Hard to say without a complete transcript of grades over a period of time.

[Vrede too]

I'm gonna go with these two possibles......she asserted her right to chose which elective courses she takes. AND from the facts of the matter, I sort of think this woman had an agenda all along, figuring to display her own superior (in her mind) views on the subject in a forum she likely thought was diametrically opposed to her views.

She did not fail the class because of her writings; she failed because she didn't follow the assignment parameters. Now she's a victim and an instant hero to the trump cult of perpetual victimhood.

I'll go further than that. I'll bet that she was a Turning Point plant all along. It's telling that the best infiltrator TP could find is such a crappy student.

Yeah, I suppose it's possible. Or a Hillsdale plant. Or some Libs of Tik Tok idiot looking to get famous. Or she could just be a substandard student. Obviously she cannot comprehend and follow an assignment. Didn't the article say she was a junior? I don't remember. If so, she's had a couple of years to get with the plan so maybe she's just a less than average student. Hard to say without a complete transcript of grades over a period of time.

I suggested TP because it jumped immediately to the student's defense and has carried on loudly.

OU grad students seek apology, protection for instructor in essay debate

Update: The vote on the resolution passed in the OU Graduate Student Senate without a single no vote, though several voting members abstained.

Section headings:

OU Graduate Student Senate calls for a public apology to the instructor who failed Samantha Fulnecky

OU graduate students defend Samantha Fulnecky's failing grade

Freedom From Religion Foundation demands OU reinstates graduate teaching assistant

GoOU grad studentsGo!

[O Really]

One question is all that's needed: Where in the assignment does it mention offering ones personal opinion? I'm pretty sure in the high schools Vrede and I attended we would have been flunked for such a miserable paper - nevermind any college course ever taken.

If she was tasked with writing a book report on "Grapes of Wrath" she'd probably start with "I didn't find any grapes in this book. I believe that if you're writing about grapes there should be some in your story."

[O Really]

So here's a question that really shouldn't have a right/left point of view, but probably will.
Article here says kids in school aren't learning to tell time on analog clocks. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/ou ... 53f&ei=201

My question is, does it matter? One view is that reading analog clocks is just a fundamental part of a basic education and that it's knowledge that will always be helpful. Maybe including the argument that if the internet of everything goes down, maybe only the wind-up analogs will work.

Another view is that times change and we no long teach abacus or slide rule in school, either.

Personally, I haven't worn any watch for years, relying on my mobile and the myriad of other places time is shown. Lady O, on the other hand, wears a Rolex that has a tiny face and requires a significant effort at daylight saving change time, but that's what she uses. Anyway, it would seem the issue of kids learning analog is more philosophical that practical as there is no shortage of places to read time.

[supesalemgr2]

So here's a question that really shouldn't have a right/left point of view, but probably will.
Article here says kids in school aren't learning to tell time on analog clocks. https://www.msn.com/en-ca/news/world/ou ... 53f&ei=201

My question is, does it matter? One view is that reading analog clocks is just a fundamental part of a basic education and that it's knowledge that will always be helpful. Maybe including the argument that if the internet of everything goes down, maybe only the wind-up analogs will work.

Another view is that times change and we no long teach abacus or slide rule in school, either.

Personally, I haven't worn any watch for years, relying on my mobile and the myriad of other places time is shown. Lady O, on the other hand, wears a Rolex that has a tiny face and requires a significant effort at daylight saving change time, but that's what she uses. Anyway, it would seem the issue of kids learning analog is more philosophical that practical as there is no shortage of places to read time.

I believe it should still be taught just because to read an analog takes a little bit of thinking. Digital does not. The point about a backup in case of "network" has value.

[O Really]

Problem is, if it's taught in school but not used at home and elsewhere, does it really matter? Same argument for learning a straight drive car. Seems like you should, but when only a few models are even available, maybe it's not unreasonable to wait until/unless you need to learn.

Maybe it's like the "personal finance" classes teaching budgeting, etc. and including how to balance a checkbook.

[Vrede too]

Problem is, if it's taught in school but not used at home and elsewhere, does it really matter? Same argument for learning a straight drive car. Seems like you should, but when only a few models are even available, maybe it's not unreasonable to wait until/unless you need to learn.

Maybe it's like the "personal finance" classes teaching budgeting, etc. and including how to balance a checkbook.

I find that many businesses and public facilities still have analog clocks on their walls, and my one battery clock at home that I keep running lest the power goes out is analog.

Maybe a few years too soon to cancel analog instruction?

Was this all a sneaky humble brag to tell us that Lady O wears a Rolex?

[neoplacebo]

Recently my granddaughter told me she's learning to write in cursive handwriting and she said they didn't teach it in school. And she graduates high school next year. I was kind of surprised to know that. But she lives in SC. I told her I'd tell her how to read Roman numerals like those MCMLIII stuff you see at the end of old movies or tv shows. that date is 1953. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of kids don't know how to tie their shoes. Hell, I could really set them straight on that.....I'm able to run and tie my shoes at the same time. Many do not agree with this approach. Fuck them.

[Vrede too]

Recently my granddaughter told me she's learning to write in cursive handwriting and she said they didn't teach it in school. And she graduates high school next year. I was kind of surprised to know that. But she lives in SC. I told her I'd tell her how to read Roman numerals like those MCMLIII stuff you see at the end of old movies or tv shows. that date is 1953. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of kids don't know how to tie their shoes. Hell, I could really set them straight on that.....I'm able to run and tie my shoes at the same time. Many do not agree with this approach. Fuck them.

Our school banned that instruction after too many kids went to the nurse with facial road rash.

My cursive got openly criticized by a teacher in 2nd or 3rd grade. I have only printed ever since. Guess I was decades ahead of my time.

[O Really]

Was this all a sneaky humble brag to tell us that Lady O wears a Rolex?

Naa, it was a gift for a very special occasion years ago, and she loves it. I never quite understood the "watch as jewelry" bit, especially when wearing a timepiece on your arm really isn't necessary anymore. I think the last time I wore a watch regularly would have been maybe 2012 or so.

[neoplacebo]

Recently my granddaughter told me she's learning to write in cursive handwriting and she said they didn't teach it in school. And she graduates high school next year. I was kind of surprised to know that. But she lives in SC. I told her I'd tell her how to read Roman numerals like those MCMLIII stuff you see at the end of old movies or tv shows. that date is 1953. I'd be willing to bet that a lot of kids don't know how to tie their shoes. Hell, I could really set them straight on that.....I'm able to run and tie my shoes at the same time. Many do not agree with this approach. Fuck them.

Our school banned that instruction after too many kids went to the nurse with facial road rash.

My cursive got openly criticized by a teacher in 2nd or 3rd grade. I have only printed ever since. Guess I was decades ahead of my time.

It is risky business, and is hard to master.

I remember being very studious in my first cursive writing time. We had these little tablets with lined paper....three light blue lines; the upper line being the upper limit of any capital letter, the middle dotted line being the height of lower case letters, and the lower line being the lower limit of all letters. The inside cover of the tablet had examples of all 26 letters as upper and lower case illustrations.My 1st grade teacher was Miss Ray. A good chance current day Republicans would suspect her of being trans.

[O Really]

I know I used to write cursive - and though not very arty it was generally legible. I don't remember exactly when it started blending into a mixture of cursive and print, but now is pretty much all print on the relatively rare occasions when I write at all. I'd guess I actually put a pen to paper a couple times a month, maybe, usually only to quickly record a date or number.

[neoplacebo]

I know I used to write cursive - and though not very arty it was generally legible. I don't remember exactly when it started blending into a mixture of cursive and print, but now is pretty much all print on the relatively rare occasions when I write at all. I'd guess I actually put a pen to paper a couple times a month, maybe, usually only to quickly record a date or number.

Yeah, the only times I write anything anymore are checks and birthday cards. I've thought of getting a set of chisels and a zesty hammer to start writing on rocks and leaving them in random places. one will say "the gold, it's in the" and one will say "objects in rock are closer than they appear" and maybe one saying "shake well before using." I figure they'll last longer than I will. One day animals will be able to read.

[O Really]

Checks??

[supesalemgr2]

Checks??

I write very few checks now. Only for donations as I like having a written record. Also, I ask vendors and service providers if they would prefer checks. With the service charges cards charge providers some vendors prefer checks. I recently realized all my bills are paid on line.

[Vrede too]

Yeah, the only times I write anything anymore are checks and birthday cards. I've thought of getting a set of chisels and a zesty hammer to start writing on rocks and leaving them in random places. one will say "the gold, it's in the" and one will say "objects in rock are closer than they appear" and maybe one saying "shake well before using." I figure they'll last longer than I will. One day animals will be able to read.

Cursive, print or your chiseling?

"This rock kills fascists."

[neoplacebo]

Yeah, the only times I write anything anymore are checks and birthday cards. I've thought of getting a set of chisels and a zesty hammer to start writing on rocks and leaving them in random places. one will say "the gold, it's in the" and one will say "objects in rock are closer than they appear" and maybe one saying "shake well before using." I figure they'll last longer than I will. One day animals will be able to read.

Cursive, print or your chiseling?

"This rock kills fascists."

Just chiseling. All capital letters. I've decided to even make one a Claymore rock. It will say "this side toward enemy."

[O Really]

The list below was not taken from a political article and, as far as I could tell, neither Trump, trumpers, liberal, conservative was mentioned. Reading it, though, it did remind me of some people I've encountered.

Here are 19 telltale signs that someone is not that smart or intelligent, and trust me, these are accurate indicators:
1."Their mind can’t be changed even as new evidence is presented."

2."They think their opinions are facts."
— u/FrostyTheX-man

"Adding onto this, they refuse to explain, prove or support these 'facts.'"

— u/Doomsday_Taco_

3."My ex fell apart whenever he was in a conversation with someone and they used a word he wasn’t familiar with. I work in behavioral health and identify emotions very particularly, and I will never forget his response to me saying he was being contemptuous towards me. 'Say normal feelings like a normal person. I’m probably being whatever that is because you’re being a bitch.' Nailed it."
— u/yogadidnthelp

4."Showing hostility towards any display of intelligence."
— U/MoonlitMine

5."They win arguments by repeating statements but louder until the other person gives up."


6."Someone recently told me they were fine where they're at and don't need or want to grow as a person. Dude, you're barely 40; I'm pretty sure there's lots you could learn."
— u/adevilnguyen


7."They get angry when you ask them clarifying questions."
— u/_DCtheTall_

8."Lack of curiosity."
— u/yogadidnthelp

9."They jump to conclusions with no evidence."

10."They have family and friends right there who are experts in things they're about to spend a huge chunk of money on, and they don't bother to consult with them about it before they go ahead and make that money shot."
— u/AccountNumber478

11."Insulting someone during a debate, instead of making a better point."
— u/pasenast

12."Word salads. They speak using an incoherent jumble of big words to appear 'deep' and 'intellectual' while communicating nothing of actual substance."
— u/Forcible007

13."They see things in black and white. Life is full of nuance, which necessitates critical thinking. If you aren't thinking critically, you're just going with the wind until it blows you into a corner that you didn't choose."

14."Bragging about acing a basic cognitive test."
— u/Chuck1983

15."No sense of humor, inability or unwillingness to understand metaphors or hyperbole in any context."
— u/MSB3000

16."They can’t handle other opinions and find lies comforting. Intelligent people are way too aware for that to ever work."
— u/Tantressa

17."They talk more than they listen."

19."Adopting strict, controversial worldviews because of something they 'saw on Facebook.'"

[GoCubsGo]

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