Traveling

[neoplacebo]

I remember feeling a sense of vestigal guilt by being an American when I visited the Nagasaki Peace Park. I did not see any other Americans there. I also did not notice any menacing or disparaging looks. And that was in 1975

[O Really]

Americans behaving badly - rude, crude, jingoistic, and abrasive - isn't new, and was generally tolerated as long as they brought money. But this seems different. It's becoming more like being German during WWII - painted with the stench of Nazi no matter how many times you may have risked your life to help your Jewish neighbor. Or, closer to home, being a guy from Massachusetts visiting Georgia in 1866.

[GoCubsGo]

I have a hunch traveling in yesteryear was different pre internet when large parts of the world population were uninformed.

The conversation devolved into where can we go?

Mexico and Canada didn't seem welcoming.

[O Really]

I have a hunch traveling in yesteryear was different pre internet when large parts of the world population were uninformed.

The conversation devolved into where can we go?

Mexico and Canada didn't seem welcoming.

I think you can get some idea of the Mexican and Canadian sentiment by the fact that they no longer feel comfortable in the US. Canadians who have wintered in South Florida for years are bailing. Legal citizens of Hispanic heritage are, at best, nervous. It's hard for that not to carry over when Americans visit their countries. Canadians aren't going to attack you - probably won't even insult you and if they did it would be "Sorry, but your president is an asshole, eh?" On the other hand, they probably aren't going to hang out with you.

[Vrede too]

I think you can get some idea of the Mexican and Canadian sentiment by the fact that they no longer feel comfortable in the US. Canadians who have wintered in South Florida for years are bailing. Legal citizens of Hispanic heritage are, at best, nervous. It's hard for that not to carry over when Americans visit their countries. Canadians aren't going to attack you - probably won't even insult you and if they did it would be "Sorry, but your president is an asshole, eh?" On the other hand, they probably aren't going to hang out with you.

Do we have any non-grudging friends left besides El Salvador and Hungary?


Kafka lives, a 2 year ordeal:

‘Drunk’ United Airlines pilot was forced into rehab for alcoholism. He actually had a concussion, lawsuit claims

[GoCubsGo]

FWIW, round trips to Europe are dirt cheap right now. Flights can be found for $500 round trip.

[O Really]

FWIW, round trips to Europe are dirt cheap right now. Flights can be found for $500 round trip.

Is that leaving out of NY?
Edit: whoa - San Diego to London $555ish

[Vrede too]

FWIW, round trips to Europe are dirt cheap right now. Flights can be found for $500 round trip.

Is that leaving out of NY?
Edit: whoa - San Diego to London $555ish

Atlanta to Amsterdam $532 for round trip, direct flights. Might be cheaper ones, I just looked at the search page.

[GoCubsGo]

Crazy isn’t it?

Hardly any Europeans are coming here and not that many Americans are feeling welcomed in Europe (Ted Cruz excepted ).

Airlines want to keep their routes and airport slots for the future so they just want to put fannies in the seats.

[O Really]

Non-stop to Athens from LAX - $388 and up.
Nice hotel in Plaka, view of Acropolis about the same price as a Holiday Inn Express.

[GoCubsGo]

Non-stop to Athens from LAX - $388 and up.
Nice hotel in Plaka, view of Acropolis about the same price as a Holiday Inn Express.

Book it Danno!

[1 CAT FAN]

I have a hunch traveling in yesteryear was different pre internet when large parts of the world population were uninformed.

The conversation devolved into where can we go?

Mexico and Canada didn't seem welcoming.

Be careful while traveling today, your Superstar Cultmaster says that AI is out to get you.

[Vrede too]

...

This might have been fun when I was younger. I never got into recreational biking with cars like those bikecentennial riders and the authors did last year.

Great American Rail-Trail: A car-free trail that crosses the country
This trail will change the way we explore the United States — and we think that’s pretty epic.

Last year, we biked 3,000 miles from the Pacific Ocean in Oceanside, California, to the Atlantic Ocean in Annapolis, Maryland. It was one of the most ambitious and exhausting adventures we’d ever taken on.

... We slept in vans, traded off who was riding, and biked 100 miles a day for 35 days straight.

... The biggest struggle of this trip was that this wasn’t some peaceful, off-the-grid adventure. For the most part, we were biking on busy highways and roads, battling shoulders that were barely a foot wide, cars going 70+ mph, and few safe places to stop and rest. We wore bright colors, trying to alert drivers of our presence to avoid getting hit.

... This leads to the great news, that there is already a cross-country trail in the works that will change the game when it comes to exploring America.

What is the Great American Rail Trail?

The Great American Rail Trail is a 3,700-mile car-free trail that crosses 12 states from Washington State to Washington, D.C. It is an iconic piece of American infrastructure that converts thousands of miles of abandoned railroad corridors and existing greenways into safe, multi-use trails for biking, walking, running, and even wheelchairs.



Today, the Great American Rail Trail is only halfway finished, but there are still wide stretches of it that are open for use. The route is designed to have wide, flat trails that are far away from any cars — which sounds like a dream compared to what we went through on our bike across America....

[O Really]

We've been on parts in WA and ID and the other end in PA and MD. Dunno if I'd care much for the Nebraska and Iowa parts.