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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Nov 07, 2024 8:30 am

Bluster? -0-? Dolt .45 never prosecuted Hillary.
We will see, but this is the new, improved, untethered version.

Ain't none of his advisors gonna stop him and do you think AG Cannon is going to say no?
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Trump election case is tossed after special counsel requests dismissal citing 'categorical' DOJ policy

The judge overseeing Donald Trump's election interference case has dismissed the case, after special counsel Jack Smith asked the judge to toss the case due to a long-standing Justice Department policy that bars the prosecution of a sitting president.

Smith earlier Monday moved to dismiss Trump's election interference case and the appeal of his classified documents case ahead of Trump's impending inauguration, due to the DOJ's presidential immunity policy and not because the charges lacked merit....
:(
Predictable. Lots of blame to go around:
TRE45QN for being such a scumbag;
Garland for being so slow;
MAGAt Loose Cannon;
Jack Smith for being slowish, and ultimately wasting a bunch of our money.
However, I reserve the greatest animosity for the 49.9% of American voters who sent the known criminal DonOLD back to the WH and for those who stayed home. :angry-cussing:
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Correct on all counts.

Didn't read if the charges could be reinstated in 2029.
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:08 pm
Correct on all counts.

Didn't read if the charges could be reinstated in 2029.
TV News: The charges were dismissed without prejudice. So, the charges could be reinstated after the DonOLD47 presidency*, but almost certainly won't be. :(
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Sad, but with any luck the defendant will no longer be among the living.

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Actually, Trump scheming to enrich himself might be less harmful than the other stuff he rants about.

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This may be interesting.

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Donald Trump Loses Appeal In $5 Million E. Jean Carroll Case
A jury last year found that Carroll was sexually abused by Trump at a Manhattan department store in 1996 and that he defamed her in later statements.


A federal appeals court in New York has upheld the $5 million verdict against President-elect Donald Trump in the sexual abuse and defamation case involving former magazine columnist E. Jean Carroll.

Three judges of the 2nd U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Manhattan concluded Monday that Trump failed to demonstrate that the lower district court erred in several of its evidentiary rulings as he claimed in his appeal.

“Further, he has not carried his burden to show that any claimed error or combination of claimed errors affected his substantial rights as required to warrant a new trial,” the court stated....
:---P x $5 million
... Last January, a different jury in a separate case ordered Trump to pay Carroll an additional $83.3 million for continuing to defame her and damage her reputation over social media. Trump is continuing to appeal that much larger verdict.
Also the 2nd U.S. Circuit, I assume.
:---P x $83.3 million, probably
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Fri Dec 13, 2024 9:44 pm
This may be interesting.

https://x.com/RpsAgainstTrump/status/18 ... 4133080075
This too, sort of:
Judge Denies Trump Request To Stop Sentencing
On the edge of formally becoming a convicted felon, Trump wants a sentencing hearing stopped in its tracks.


Donald Trump will not be able to stop his sentencing hearing on Friday, according to the judge who oversaw the president-elect’s criminal hush money case.
Will it be televised? :twisted:
In an order issued Monday, Judge Juan Merchan said Trump’s request to delay the hearing was unsuccessful because it is a “repetition of the arguments he has raised numerous times in the past.”
Tantrums, as SoupySales selectively calls them.
Merchan has already indicated he would not sentence the incoming president to prison time for his 34-count felony conviction, lawyers for Trump now want to nix the sentencing hearing while an appeal is underway.
That's a shame.
When he is sentenced, he will formally be considered a convicted felon....
This is why he wants Canada, Panama and Greenland - so he can travel to them and do fake statesman things. How many nations will he be banned from?
“There is no risk here of an ‘extended proceeding’ that impairs the discharge of defendant’s official duties — duties he does not possess before January 20, 2025,” Bragg wrote.

Further, Trump’s conduct underpinning the charges has been disputed at length, and it was determined already that it was not official.

“And, until his inauguration on January 20, 2025, defendant is simply not engaged in any official presidential functions that would support a claim of immunity from ordinary criminal process. Because the charges on which defendant was convicted are wholly unrelated to his official conduct, and because defendant relies on a purported ‘President-elect’ immunity doctrine that does not exist, his invocation of immunity does not entitle him to an automatic stay pending appeal,” Bragg wrote.
:---P
When New York Judge Juan Merchan issued a ruling on Dec. 16 flatly rejecting Trump’s presidential immunity arguments as grounds for dismissal, he explained his reasoning: The evidence presented and used to convict Trump related “entirely to unofficial conduct,” and the Supreme Court had left the door open to prosecution for unofficial acts....
I would have loved to see a symbolic jail sentence until Jan 20. Oh well.
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Vrede too wrote:
Mon Nov 25, 2024 5:55 pm
Trump election case is tossed after special counsel requests dismissal citing 'categorical' DOJ policy


:(
Predictable. Lots of blame to go around:
TRE45QN for being such a scumbag;
Garland for being so slow;
MAGAt Loose Cannon;
Jack Smith for being slowish, and ultimately wasting a bunch of our money.
However, I reserve the greatest animosity for the 49.9% of American voters who sent the known criminal DonOLD back to the WH and for those who stayed home. :angry-cussing:
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Mon Nov 25, 2024 6:08 pm
Correct on all counts.

Didn't read if the charges could be reinstated in 2029.
TV News: The charges were dismissed without prejudice. So, the charges could be reinstated after the DonOLD47 presidency*, but almost certainly won't be. :(
billy pilgrim speaks from beyond:
‘Fatal Mistake’: Democrats Blame DOJ As Trump Escapes Accountability For Jan. 6
“Merrick Garland wasted a year,” Rep. Jerrold Nadler said ahead of the fourth anniversary of the 2021 Capitol riot.


... Garland made the appointment in November 2022, saying he’d done so partly because Trump had just formalized his bid for the presidency.
Wasted a year and a half. :angry-cussing:
The announcement also followed a series of high-profile public hearings by a bipartisan House committee airing the evidence against the former president.

“Garland only started the prosecution after he was in effect forced to by the report of the Jan. 6 committee and the criminal referral,” former House Judiciary Committee chair Jerrold Nadler (D-N.Y.) told HuffPost. “The evidence the Jan. 6 committee used was available from the beginning.”

“Had they proceeded with those prosecutions, I think he would have been convicted and we’d have a different president now,” Nadler said. “Merrick Garland wasted a year.”

Nadler is not alone in thinking so. The Washington Post reported last month that President Joe Biden has expressed regret about picking Garland, believing the nation’s top law enforcement officer took too long to pursue Trump after Jan. 6.

Reps. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.) and Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), members of the Jan. 6 committee, also told HuffPost they thought Garland waited too long....

Still, it was likely inevitable that if the Justice Department prosecuted a former president, the Supreme Court could get involved to settle questions of presidential immunity that Trump would raise in court. It’s possible that even if the Justice Department had acted swiftly, appeals to the Supreme Court could have bogged the case for years.
I should have included SCOTUS in my list.
... Sen. Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), who served on the House select committee that investigated the attack, said the Justice Department “moved with expedition when it came to the people who broke into the building, but were those at a higher level, they waited almost a year on.”

“That was a fatal mistake,” he added.
Sigh :(
... Trump’s reelection, however, largely happened despite the American public’s disapproval of his behavior on Jan. 6. Roughly two-thirds of the people who voted in the 2024 election believed Trump had “a lot” or “some” responsibility for violence on Jan. 6, according to exit polls. The problem for Trump’s opponent is that 70% of those who believed he had some responsibility for the violence voted for him anyway.
As I said :ateeth:
Similarly, two-thirds of American adults oppose Trump’s plans to pardon people convicted of crimes related to the insurrection, according to a Washington Post-University of Maryland survey last month.
Good, but how will that be expressed?
Though the criminal cases against Trump are all but dead, he could be on the hook for damages as a result of a handful of civil lawsuits brought against him relating to the Jan. 6 insurrection, including by law enforcement officers, congressional Democrats and the estate of a police officer who died. Unlike federal suits, civil litigation can proceed against a sitting president.
Bleed him dry.
Moreover, outgoing Sen. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), who voted to convict Trump over the Jan. 6 attack, said he believes history will judge Trump’s wrongdoing harshly.

“I think the people who write history are serious people, and they will recognize, as the world does, that it was a terrible assault on the world’s model democracy,” Romney said. “It will be seen as such, and the effort to try and pretend it was something else will fly in the face of reality.”
The ultimate fish slap.
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Plenty of blame to go around, everyone seems to be forgetting the judiciary is complicit.
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Small victory at this point.

Can't wait to see him explode.

Supreme Court rejects Trump’s bid to delay sentencing in his New York hush money case
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Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:03 pm
Small victory at this point.

Can't wait to see him explode.

Supreme Court rejects Trump’s bid to delay sentencing in his New York hush money case
DonOLD is officially a convicted felon now. He can't own a gun and there are countries he can't travel to without special exemption, like Canada. Both NY and FL do allow him to vote since there are no penalties for him to complete.

Significant victory:

Judge Cannon OKs release of special counsel’s report into Trump and election subversion

Even Loose Cannon fish slaps TRE45QN. No DoJ charges, but the report is now out there for us to read and act upon.
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Tue Jan 14, 2025 6:54 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Thu Jan 09, 2025 9:03 pm
Small victory at this point.

Can't wait to see him explode.

Supreme Court rejects Trump’s bid to delay sentencing in his New York hush money case
DonOLD is officially a convicted felon now. He can't own a gun and there are countries he can't travel to without special exemption, like Canada. Both NY and FL do allow him to vote since there are no penalties for him to complete.

Significant victory:

Judge Cannon OKs release of special counsel’s report into Trump and election subversion

Even Loose Cannon fish slaps TRE45QN. No DoJ charges, but the report is now out there for us to read and act upon.
He can be charged again in 2029.
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By virtue of winning the presidency only.

Any other circumstances would've seen him justifiably locked up.

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Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:48 pm
By virtue of winning the presidency only.

Any other circumstances would've seen him justifiably locked up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk6moOJbAAA ... ame=medium
:thumbup: Never forget:
Jasmine Crockett Cleverly Burns Trump Without Even Using His Name
The Texas lawmaker hilariously called out Republicans’ hypocrisy during Wednesday’s House Oversight Committee hearing.


... The Republican-led House Oversight Committee dragged four Democratic mayors to Capitol Hill on Wednesday so Republicans could essentially bully them into forcing local law enforcement to do the jobs of federal immigration officials. The committee’s efforts were an obvious ploy to promote Trump’s aggressive mass deportation plan....
She’s such a badass.
This was perfect! Thank you Rep. Crockett for standing strong and speaking out.
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Vrede too wrote:
Thu Mar 06, 2025 8:31 pm
GoCubsGo wrote:
Fri Feb 28, 2025 7:48 pm
By virtue of winning the presidency only.

Any other circumstances would've seen him justifiably locked up.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Gk6moOJbAAA ... ame=medium
:thumbup: Never forget:
Jasmine Crockett Cleverly Burns Trump Without Even Using His Name
The Texas lawmaker hilariously called out Republicans’ hypocrisy during Wednesday’s House Oversight Committee hearing.


... The Republican-led House Oversight Committee dragged four Democratic mayors to Capitol Hill on Wednesday so Republicans could essentially bully them into forcing local law enforcement to do the jobs of federal immigration officials. The committee’s efforts were an obvious ploy to promote Trump’s aggressive mass deportation plan....
She’s such a badass.
This was perfect! Thank you Rep. Crockett for standing strong and speaking out.
:---P :clap: :-||
Most thinking people would consider her comparison as "apples & oranges".

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Supsalemgr wrote:
Fri Mar 07, 2025 6:26 am
Most thinking people would consider her comparison as "apples & oranges".
True. Almost all immigrant felons have never killed anyone. TRE45QN killed hundreds of thousands with crappy pandemic management and is killing thousands more by abruptly cutting of USAID. Thanks for pointing it out.
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