Animals

[GoCubsGo]

Opps.

Brave of whoever to get that close. Mooses can be mean. I had one back me off a trail in Isle Royale National Park.

Maybe Canadian moose are more polite . Hopefully used a zoom from indoors.

Backpacking in Yellowstone Park, woken by heavy breathing snuffling right outside the tent, sure it was a bear. Finally got up the nerve to look - adult moose . . . and baby grazing just a few feet away. This was not necessarily safer than a bear, but all we could do is zip the tent up again and try to sleep. We lived.

I've come across moose several times, but never aggressive ones.

The other thing most people don't realize is moose are incredibly fast and agile in the woods. They're basically a deer on steroids.

[O Really]

Residential moose are a lot like residential bears. You don't want to get too close or mess with them, but they're not easily spooked or particularly aggressive.

[O Really]

Residential moose are a lot like residential bears. You don't want to get too close or mess with them, but they're not easily spooked or particularly aggressive.

Not sure what is meant by "residential" as applied to moose or bears. I mean, I've back packed in the Sierra Nevada quite a bit, and encountered bears, but never encountered moose. Kept my distance, and no major problems. Maybe that's because I was in their residence and acted accordingly.

I may have made up the term "residential" bear or moose, but I meant those who live close enough to to humans to wander through the neighbourhoods somewhat regularly. Lady O has a brother who lives fairly close to Mr. Ranier and he has elk herds wandering through the yard regularly, along with moose eating apples off the trees, and the occasional bear and wolf. He doesn't try to attract them, nor usually chase them off. They just pass on through on their foraging routes.

[Vrede too]

I may have made up the term "residential" bear or moose, but I meant those who live close enough to to humans to wander through the neighbourhoods somewhat regularly. Lady O has a brother who lives fairly close to Mr. Ranier and he has elk herds wandering through the yard regularly, along with moose eating apples off the trees, and the occasional bear and wolf. He doesn't try to attract them, nor usually chase them off. They just pass on through on their foraging routes.

I knew what you meant.

[billy.pilgrim]

Residential moose are a lot like residential bears. You don't want to get too close or mess with them, but they're not easily spooked or particularly aggressive.

Not sure what is meant by "residential" as applied to moose or bears. I mean, I've back packed in the Sierra Nevada quite a bit, and encountered bears, but never encountered moose. Kept my distance, and no major problems. Maybe that's because I was in their residence and acted accordingly.

I may have made up the term "residential" bear or moose, but I meant those who live close enough to to humans to wander through the neighbourhoods somewhat regularly. Lady O has a brother who lives fairly close to Mr. Ranier and he has elk herds wandering through the yard regularly, along with moose eating apples off the trees, and the occasional bear and wolf. He doesn't try to attract them, nor usually chase them off. They just pass on through on their foraging routes.

made up or not, we have residential bears living in my neighborhood.

[O Really]

made up or not, we have residential bears living in my neighborhood.

Yeah, we did too when we lived in AVL. I considered it an amenity.

[neoplacebo]

And that means they were "resident" or "residents" before we were.

[billy.pilgrim]

made up or not, we have residential bears living in my neighborhood.

Yeah, we did too when we lived in AVL. I considered it an amenity.

me too, when they're at a distance or out swimming, but it was a little unnerving to come within 10 ft of one inside my privacy fenced back yard. The bear scared me back inside in quick step and I may have equally scared the bear.

[O Really]

made up or not, we have residential bears living in my neighborhood.

Yeah, we did too when we lived in AVL. I considered it an amenity.

me too, when they're at a distance or out swimming, but it was a little unnerving to come within 10 ft of one inside my privacy fenced back yard. The bear scared me back inside in quick step and I may have equally scared the bear.

Ours were somewhat seasonal - didn't see them at all in the winter, and not much in summer, but spring and fall they traveled regularly through. One year we hadn't seen any yet and a bird feeder was left out on the porch. Looked out the patio doors that night and saw a bear sitting on the edge of the porch, just like a human would sit, chugging the bird feeder. We yelled at him and he tucked the feeder under his arm like a football, turned around and said something like, "what?" and strolled off.

[Vrede too]

Cowboys S Ha Ha Clinton-Dix immediately flees after encountering two (actual) bears (article)

Video

[GoCubsGo]

[Vrede too]

Thanks.

[Vrede too]

Speaking of Myrtle Beach:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/seymour ... 577435228/ - 25 sec video

Article

[billy.pilgrim]

Speaking of Myrtle Beach:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/seymour ... 577435228/ - 25 sec video

Article

The stills are even better and more revealing

https://petapixel.com/2018/04/30/photog ... ng-a-fish/

I'm not too sure about the myrtle beach connection

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[billy.pilgrim]

EPA reverses ban on pesticide harmful to bees. There is just nothing that trump can't fuck up.
https://week.com/news/national-news-fro ... t-to-bees/

The potential harm is mediated by the fact that we've "stopped tracking rapidly vanishing honeybee colonies".

EPA Approves Bee-Killing Pesticide After U.S. Quits Tracking Vanishing Hives

Can't lose what we don't know we have, right?

aren't they an invasive species that robs food from our natural bees?

[billy.pilgrim]

I always marvel at these stories of people helping bears, lions and wolves. I wonder how many of us would have the courage to do the same.

[bannination]

How to draw a pig.

[Vrede too]

aren't they an invasive species that robs food from our natural bees?

My understanding is that the European Honeybee is considered to be one of the very few introduced species that is considered beneficial over the long term. But, I'm no expert. If you have science that indicates otherwise AND evidence that sulfoxaflor is not harming other species, I'm all ears.

[billy.pilgrim]

aren't they an invasive species that robs food from our natural bees?

My understanding is that the European Honeybee is considered to be one of the very few introduced species that is considered beneficial over the long term. But, I'm no expert. If you have science that indicates otherwise AND evidence that sulfoxaflor is not harming other species, I'm all ears.

https://blog-education-nationalgeograph ... ronment%2F


https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproj ... -war-40620


https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/20 ... nvironment


And I thought as you did until I started reading about them over the past few months.

[Vrede too]

My understanding is that the European Honeybee is considered to be one of the very few introduced species that is considered beneficial over the long term. But, I'm no expert. If you have science that indicates otherwise AND evidence that sulfoxaflor is not harming other species, I'm all ears.

https://blog-education-nationalgeograph ... ronment%2F

https://theconversation-com.cdn.ampproj ... -war-40620

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/20 ... nvironment

And I thought as you did until I started reading about them over the past few months.

Interesting, thanks. I noticed this in your second link:

Native bees in North America are declining drastically. Habitat loss is the number one reason for bee decline, with pesticide use, invasive species, and climate change also playing a major role.

I guess I'll still oppose sulfoxaflor and any other strategy that also harms native pollinators.