2022 elections

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trump lied about his heritage as well as his wealth, his taxes and his whore wife.

All I'm seeing is that jews only vote for jews. Too bad they didn't vet this turd.

We don't know how many Dem or independent Jews flipped. It may be a minority of them.

To be fair, that is the Republican Jewish Coalition, who by definition votes Republican, anyhow, and some unknown number of Jewish voters in that competitive Long Island district.

Then, even the Republican Jewish Coalition is less tolerant than, wait for it . . .

GOP Leadership Remains Silent Over George Santos' Falsehoods

:puke-left:

Wasn't it a dem district before some guy claimed to be jewish. Wouldn't that mean that some dems crossed over because of the guy's religious claims?

Yes, among other things Santos claimed.

Yes, and/or independents, likely Jewish and otherwise. That's who I meant by "some unknown number of Jewish voters".

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It was a Dem district, and actually the guy before Suozzi was named "Israel" but might not have been Jewish. But the Jews that are complaining the most are Republicans, who probably have been voting R all along. There surely were some Dem crossover, and a swing of Unaffiliateds, but not necessarily because he claimed to be Jewish.

Before 2011 NY3 was Repug.
Israel is Jewish (2011-17). Aside: That's a funny sentence now that I look at it.
Suozzi is not (2017-now retiring), 56.0 - 43.5 vs Santos in 2020.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York% ... on_results

2022
Robert Zimmerman (D), real gay Jew 45.9%
George Santos (R), fake gay Jew 54.1%
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_Unit ... District_3

No point, we'd need more info on redistricting and exit polls to know who flipped.

[billy.pilgrim]

I'm bowing out of this. I'm increasingly aware that I don't know enough about it and aren't interested enough to educate myself any further than what you are posting.

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Someone listened to me.

U.S. Rep.-elect George Santos of New York was under investigation by Long Island prosecutors on Wednesday, after revelations surfaced that the now-embattled Republican lied about his heritage, education and professional pedigree as he campaigned for office.

As His Life of Fantasy Comes Into Focus, George Santos Goes to Washington

It's not surprising that this lifelong liar and conman found a welcoming home in the GQP, just like Former PINO did.

... New York Democrats also made it clear they want to subject Santos to deeper scrutiny. Rep. Hakeem Jeffries, the incoming Democratic leader, has said Santos is “unfit to serve.” Rep. Ritchie Torres said he planned to introduce the Stop Another Non-Truthful Office Seeker Act — the SANTOS Act — that would require House candidates to provide details of their backgrounds under oath.

The lawmaker who may have the most significant role in his future in the House, Kevin McCarthy, the House Republican leader, has been silent when asked about the Times’ reporting and Santos’ interviews supporting it....

Coward.

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... Washington Post journalist Marianna Sotomayor reports that, when Santos stood to vote for Kevin McCarthy on Tuesday, "a Hispanic Democrat yelled 'mentiroso!' which translates to 'liar' in English." ...

:clap:

Based on George Santos' résumé he should be speaker. He has the best credentials. And, I get the impression he is rather modest, and his current résumé only barely touches on his education, experiences and other qualifications for the position.

Are any of these people running for office vetted? If not, a law needs to be enacted to prevent this in the future. It should be added to the election rules as the "Santos Clause".

:thumbup:

[billy.pilgrim]

I still don't understand why people are upset. The voters failed to educate themselves and they voted the man in. Simple solution - vote him out in 2 years.

How many reps, senators and presidents have served because they claimed to be christian?

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I still don't understand why people are upset. The voters failed to educate themselves and they voted the man in. Simple solution - vote him out in 2 years.

How many reps, senators and presidents have served because they claimed to be christian?

:thumbup: , but I think it's a matter of scale and the fact that Santos was a conman even before politics. I'm fine with chasing him out, especially with such a narrow House RepuQ majority and in a district that's likely to replace him with a D in any special election.


Meanwhile, let's talk about ethical pols:

Incoming Pa. governor taps GOP ex-official for election post

A former Philadelphia election official who has told of enduring death threats for defending the city's 2020 vote-counting against former President Donald Trump's lies will be nominated for the top election administration post in Pennsylvania by the incoming Democratic governor, Josh Shapiro.

Al Schmidt's coming nomination to be secretary of state, announced Thursday by Shapiro, sets him up to oversee what is expected to be a hard-fought 2024 election in the critical presidential battleground. Schmidt is Shapiro's first Cabinet selection to be revealed ahead of his Jan. 17 inauguration.

Protecting elections and voting rights was central to Shapiro's campaign, as he emphasized his intention to nominate a “pro-Democracy” secretary of state and his role, as attorney general, in fighting efforts in court by Trump and his allies to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

“Al Schmidt has a proven track record of defending our democracy, protecting voting rights and standing up to extremism — even in the face of grave threats," Shapiro said in a statement.

Schmidt, 51, is a Republican, fitting in with Shapiro's theme of fashioning a bipartisan administration in politically divided Pennsylvania....

On Friday, the second anniversary of the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, Schmidt will be among 12 people to receive the Presidential Citizens Medal from President Joe Biden in a ceremony at the White House. This is the first time Biden has given the medal, the nation’s second-highest civilian award.

I have every reason to believe that Schmidt is the best person for the job, but he's also the perfect fish slap to wingnut Doug Mastriano, TRE45QN, Qidiots and the rest of the Cult .45.

... Holding the post of secretary of state is subject to confirmation in the Republican-controlled Senate.

... With help from Philadelphia, Trump lost Pennsylvania to Biden.

Few, if any, Republicans came to Schmidt's defense during a time when he has said he received Trump-inspired death threats against him and his family that he has called “domestic terrorism.” Rather, the state Republican Party and most state GOP lawmakers sought to stop Pennsylvania's electoral votes from being awarded to Biden.

No lawsuit, prosecutor or election worker has produced evidence of widespread fraud in Philadelphia's 2020 election....

The state Republican Party and most state GOP lawmakers get fish slapped, too.

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I still don't understand why people are upset. The voters failed to educate themselves and they voted the man in. Simple solution - vote him out in 2 years.

How many reps, senators and presidents have served because they claimed to be christian?

11 months later and the possible expulsion today of Sleazy Santos is still a hot topic. Oh well, 2 years later:

2 Republicans In Arizona Indicted After Trying To Delay Election Results
“The repeated attempts to undermine our democracy are unacceptable,” the state’s attorney general said.

Two Arizona Republicans were indicted Wednesday on charges they conspired to delay the certification of the state’s 2022 election results.

The state’s attorney general, Kris Mayes, said a grand jury had indicted Tom Crosby and Peggy Judd, two supervisors for rural Cochise County. Last year, the pair moved to delay the count of ballots cast in the county, but they were quickly sued by then-Secretary of State Katie Hobbs. They later voted to delay the certification of the results, even though they cited no issue with the votes in the heavily Republican region, as a form of protest against the election outcome statewide.

That would be the election of Gov Hobbs over wingnut Kari Lake and other races like:

Kristin Kay Mayes is an American reporter, lawyer, and politician who is the Arizona Attorney General. A member of the Democratic Party, Mayes was elected in 2022, defeating Republican Abraham Hamadeh by a margin of just 280 votes, making this one of the closest elections in the state's history....

Mayes is the second woman elected Arizona Attorney General (after Janet Napolitano), the third openly lesbian woman elected attorney general of a state in the United States (after Maura Healey and Dana Nessel), and the second openly LGBT person elected to statewide office in Arizona (after Kyrsten Sinema).

:clap: Back to the article:

They eventually backed down amid a court order, but the episode prompted concern about the spread of former President Donald Trump’s conspiracy theories about the legitimacy of American elections. Despite his repeated claims of fraud whenever Republicans seem to lose, there is no evidence of widespread malfeasance....



If convicted, Crosby and Judd face up to 2.5 years in prison and a $150,000 fine, according to the Arizona Republic. They face two felony counts, one for conspiracy and one for interference with an election officer.

:---P :---P Lock them up!

Last year, Judd told The New York Times the pair had moved to stymie the certification of the state’s results because small counties were “sick and tired of getting kicked around and not being respected.” She cited conspiracy theories that voting machines in the state were illegal but later told the Times the delay was largely just a protest against counties with strong Democratic support.

Opps, that's the conviction right there.

She said at the time, “It’s the only thing we have to stand on.”

No, dummy, you never had that, either.

I hope that Gov Hobbs, AG Mayes, etc are doing well enough that Dem gains in the purple state will be solidified in 2024.

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GOP Election Denier Tina Peters Loses Colorado Secretary Of State Primary
The Mesa County clerk who was under indictment for tampering with voting machines lost to a Republican who acknowledged the 2020 vote was legitimate.

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Lots of article text and my commentary at the brd link above.

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Oh look, elections tampering and fraud is real:

Colorado clerk is indicted for election tampering and misconduct

A grand jury has indicted a Colorado county clerk, Tina Peters (R), and her deputy on a laundry list of charges related to an election security breach in her office last summer that was influenced by former President Donald Trump's false claims that he won the 2020 election....

Guess who represents Mesa County in Congress.

Spoiler:

#LaurenBoebertIsSoDumb, of course.

That's a lot of felonies between the two of them. :clap:

I'm shocked that there's a Lindell connection, utterly shocked.

Opps.

Lock them up!

Hat trick of Pubs:

3rd arrest made in alleged Colorado election security breach

:---P

New:

Pro-Trump former Colorado official Tina Peters found guilty in election computer breach trial
The jury in the trial of Former Mesa County Clerk Tina Peters delivered a guilty verdict in seven out of 10 counts in her election interference case. She will be sentenced on October 3

Former Colorado clerk Tina Peters, the first local election official to face charges for a security breach post-2020 election amidst rampant conspiracy theories, was convicted on most counts by a jury this Monday.

Peters, once hailed as a hero among those denying the election results, was charged with using another person's security badge to allow an expert affiliated with My Pillow CEO Mike Lindell into the Mesa County election system, while misleading officials about the individual's identity. Lindell, known for his false claims that voting machines were tampered with to rig the election against Donald Trump, has been broadcasting Peters' trial live on his online channel and sending out daily email updates, which sometimes include calls for prayers for Peters and her statements.

Prosecutors argued that Peters, in her quest for notoriety, became "fixated" on alleged voting irregularities after mingling with individuals who doubted the 2020 presidential election's integrity. The orchestrated breach by Peters raised alarms about the possibility of insider threats, where partisan election workers could exploit their access to undermine the system from within.

We have met the election integrity enemy and it is MAGA.

... Following the decision, Peters took to social media platform X to level accusations at Dominion Voting Systems, the supplier of her county's election equipment, and state official attorneys for alleged vote theft. "I will continue to fight until the Truth is revealed that was not allowed to be brought during this trial. This is a sad day for our nation and the world. But we WILL win in the end," she said. She will be sentenced on October 3.

I hope her utter lack of remorse carries weight at sentencing.

... The verdict came just hours after prosecutors urged jurors to convict Peters ...

Hah, in a GOP county!

(prosecutor Janet) Drake said Peters observed the update so she could become the “hero” and appear at Lindell’s symposium on the 2020 presidential election a few months later. "The defendant was a fox guarding the henhouse....

:---P Lock her up!