Wingnutties out of control!

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Whatever happened to governors and legislators (of both parties) who identified themselves with worthwhile major issues like education, roads, industrial recruitment, etc. To use a North Carloina Republican example, there was Holshouser, the first Republican governor since 18-hundred something, whose accomplishments in office include consolidation of the University of North Carolina system under a Board of Governors, capital improvement funding for the community college system, statewide enrollment for kindergarten and establishment of health clinics in rural areas not served by local physicians. Nothing in the record about challenging Jimmy Carter's birth certificate or eligibility to be President despite rumours that Carter was actually born in Georgia.

We had a Republican self-proclaimed "education" governor. Dumbass still thinks he's an expert on public education ... even though he'd never set foot in a public school until he decided to run for governor.

He's been mentioned as possible Department of Education secretary in the once-imagined McCain and Rmoney administrations. Scares me shitless.

If you ever hear about the "Florida Miracle," it didn't really happen. Another Republican myth.

And, as part of "streamlining" K-through-college education education in Florida (sketched out on a cocktail napkin at a bar by Jebbie and a crony) the dumbass got rid of our Board of Regents, leaving the colleges subject to the whims of the legislature. The senate president, an FSU grad, was finally able to waste several million establishing an unnecessary College of Medicine at FSU. It's been downhill ever since.

Anyone who thinks taking control from a group of experts and turning it over to the Florida ledge is a good idea is a really ignorant maroon.

And that's our Jebbie.

When those dumbasses manage to privatize public education, and turn all those barely-middle-class jobs into upper-poverty-level jobs, how do you think all the local mom-and-pop businesses and restaurants will fare? Just more wealth redistribution ... from the bottom to the top.

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I think Tennessee may be trying to out-stupid everyone. They have a bill that would reduce welfare benefits for families whose children don't do well in school. Think Progress

Tying benefits to attendance is one thing. Tying benefits to academic performance of the children who start school with less than half the vocabulary of children from professional families is stupid ... and immoral.

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I think Tennessee may be trying to out-stupid everyone. They have a bill that would reduce welfare benefits for families whose children don't do well in school. Think Progress

Tying benefits to attendance is one thing. Tying benefits to academic performance of the children who start school with less than half the vocabulary of children from professional families is stupid ... and immoral.

.... but perfect for companies looking to hire slave labor later on..... America's corporations have been jealous of China for far too long.

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I think Tennessee may be trying to out-stupid everyone. They have a bill that would reduce welfare benefits for families whose children don't do well in school. Think Progress

Tying benefits to attendance is one thing. Tying benefits to academic performance of the children who start school with less than half the vocabulary of children from professional families is stupid ... and immoral.

.... but perfect for companies looking to hire slave labor later on..... America's corporations have been jealous of China for far too long.

They don't want education. They want skill training so that the corporate "people" who run the country can obtain their worker drones -- supply and demand -- at the lowest possible cost.

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They don't source the figure but according to Action NC, "North Carolina is the third-worst state in terms of per-pupil education spending."

Check these charts out. NC has been leading the way ... in cutting per-pupil spending.

http://www.cbpp.org/cms/?fa=view&id=3825

Not as bad as Alabama or Georgia, but bad.

The one source I looked up did have NC third from the bottom in 2009.

http://www.nationaljournal.com/thenexta ... r-20121016

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Obama is a lizard man. Proof HERE.
And HERE.

We let these people: roam free, vote, buy guns, drive cars, make babies. Maybe gun control is not as important as establishing wingnut control.

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NC moves toward drug testing for those on welfare



What about all the fat cats sucking up corporate welfare?

You'll spend a million dollars on drug testing to keep from giving $50,000 worth of benefits to a few druggies. Good sound, conservative, responsible fiscal policy.

Huff Po asks the question: "Shouldn't We Drug Test CEOs of Banks Receiving Federal Aid?" http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steven-st ... 34127.html

Hell, let's test everyone in middle management up.

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Tennessee is pushing a bill to dock parents TANF money if the kids make bad grades.

Let's see. A kid raised in poverty, shows up to school with 20% of the vocabulary of an upper middle class kid (Mexican or not -- doesn't matter), and if the kid somehow manages to make bad grades, the kid AND his family get punished by having their TNAF lowered?

What's wrong with this picture?

The kicker is that Tennessee's TANF for a family of three -- e.g. mommy and two kids -- is $185 per month.

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Also from Wingnutty Land, the Chalkboard Queen, Glenn Beck, has a new federal conspiracy to Nazify America: Common Core State Standards in education.

They were started by the states before Obama was elected. 45 states joined in. Obama jumped on the bandwagon and added some federal incentive -- i.e. money -- and now it's an Obama conspiracy to Nazify America.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/201 ... 1481237582

I don't know where they keep coming up with the stupid. They seem to have an inexhaustible supply.

They don't attack it because of legitimate reasons, like it doesn't provide a full education or teach kids to think beyond the box or anything else. They just make up stupid and call it a reason.

Now states that have joined are trying to unjoin. It's only a matter of time before someone links it to Agenda 21. Which is probably a lot like Area 51.

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THIS is a good source of rightwingnut dementia.

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There seems to be a handful of states- mostly red, southern moocher states- who are hellbent to see which one can be batshit crazier. NC, TN, MS and TX all seem to make AL, GA and SC seem quasi-sane. Now, even KS is feeling the need to compete.

These statehouse pols are not even rising to the level of prostitutes anymore. They are now just plain, brazen ol' whores, too sorry and/or lazy to even attempt to disguise what they are doing. Of course, the wingnut nazis all rise to defend them.

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"Social conservatives" threaten to abandon GOP... http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2013 ... snhp&pos=3

Go for it! Form a third party. Leave for Somalia. What-everr! If the GOP gets further into the barrel with these people, they don't have a hair on their scurvy asses.

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There seems to be a handful of states- mostly red, southern moocher states- who are hellbent to see which one can be batshit crazier. NC, TN, MS and TX all seem to make AL, GA and SC seem quasi-sane. Now, even KS is feeling the need to compete.

These statehouse pols are not even rising to the level of prostitutes anymore. They are now just plain, brazen ol' whores, too sorry and/or lazy to even attempt to disguise what they are doing. Of course, the wingnut nazis all rise to defend them.

I never know which thread to post in -- Nutjobs or Wingnutties.

From Kansas -- this shit is funny:

In a recording made by [Saline County, Kansas] County Clerk Don Merriman of the study session, [Republican Commissioner Gene] Gile, who is white, can be heard to say the county needed to hire an architect to design the improvements rather than “n[*]gger-rigging it.”
His comment brought laughter from others in the room. Salinan Ray Hruska, who attends most commission meetings and study sessions, asked Gile what he said.
“Afro-Americanized,” Gile replied. . . .
Gile said he grew up around the term, but it is something he shouldn’t have used.
“I am not a prejudiced person,” Gile said Friday. “I have built Habitat homes for colored people.”
Gile said he also has a close friend whom he regards as a sister who is black.

Think Progress

I have built homes for colored people and I have a black friend.

It's just precious.

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I wonder what he might have said if he had been a "prejudiced person." And "colored people" - seriously?? And, ironically, the "black friend" he "regards as a sister" probably really is his sister.

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What he said is offensive and stupid, but he's an old, white, Baptist County Commissioner from a rural, 3% black, Kansas county with just half the population of Henderson, and he's apologized. I remember the phrase from my younger physical labor days and I can see him using it without malice or even consideration of the racial implication. I'll give him a pass and will hope that an old dog can learn new tricks. American racism is far more insidious and destructive than anything he's responsible for.

Nope - I checked my bag of passes and couldn't find one to give to any Republican office-holder. I like to think of the GOP as the "Mirandized" party. Everything they say can and will be held against them. (and, of course, they have the right to remain silent - as if)

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Ted Nugent Doubles Down On Claim He Will Be "Dead Or In Jail" Because Of Gun Laws

Tick tock, Nugent, you asshole. Now, either go to jail or eat a bullet; show us your word is worth diddly-shit.

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It's a pretty impressive list of volunteer work mostly serving the poor - housing, hunger, CAPS, DVACK, and Project Salina. I can imagine that the stupidity was uttered without forethought or ill intent and accept Gile's immediate apology, especially given my standards and expectations for elected officials in rural KS. It's not like he's Ted Nugent, as far as we know.

Kansas used to have Dole and Kassebaum. Now they've got Roberts and Moran, with Brownback in the Governor's chair. When Bob Dole looks like the wise and reasonable elder statesman, you know you're not in Kansas anymore.

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Action NC doesn't give the details or likely sponsor/s but:

Stringent budget cuts to public education have already left students and teachers across the state hurting. They are out of books, loaded down by paperwork, and dealing with safety issues while trying to focus on lessons.

Today, we learned that a bill is likely to be proposed that will take $90 million dollars away from our public schools and direct these dollars to a voucher system. We can't let that happen. We simply can't afford it.

We need people from across the state - from all 100 counties - to raise your voices and let the General Assembly know that this is not acceptable!

Speak up for better public education in North Carolina: http://www.actionnc.org/should_education_in_nc_change

Kevin J. Rogers
http://www.actionnc.org/
Action NC · Durham, NC 27701, United States

It's the Moral Majority / Jeb Bush / Teabagger ideology come to fruition. They simply want to destroy public schools. Public education is the only entity that can destroy the Republican party ... simply by educating American children.

They don't want this. They want brainwashing, pure and simple. They want training camps to turn out mindless worker drones for the megacorps.

Jeb Bush's group sees education as a "GROWTH INDUSTRY," and they're all poised to make that profit when the taxpayer money starts getting handed out to private schools.

Your children are for sale.

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Oboy...they's gettin' serious now...
http://now.msn.com/tony-perkins-dont-do ... y-marriage

C'mon, guys - dump the GOP! Third party - party - party! Put up or shut up!

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It's the Moral Majority / Jeb Bush / Teabagger ideology come to fruition. They simply want to destroy public schools. Public education is the only entity that can destroy the Republican party ... simply by educating American children.

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Jeb Bush's group sees education as a "GROWTH INDUSTRY," and they're all poised to make that profit when the taxpayer money starts getting handed out to private schools.

Here's the change in college education costs over the last few decades, in inflation and constant dollars:





THIS is why there's a lobbying for private schools. It's so they can repeat the charts above with K-12 education.

Taxes will only cover it for so long. Then the Republicans - the same folks who will enact this - will then force most of the costs onto the parents. By law, unlike college, parents MUST send their kids to K-12. And so when the parents can't afford it, the only solution will be another "personal mandate" where the parents or child will be REQUIRED to go into long-term debt to cover it.

And of course like with healthcare's "personal mandate" the Republicans will demand it for years, but leave it for the Democrats to enact, then blame them for it.

And like with healthcare, a lot of "unimportant" people will have to go without, and Republicans will claim otherwise.