The Global Warming thread.

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Temperature hits (record) 100 F degrees in Arctic Russian town



Triple whammy:
The forest fire smoke adds to the greenhouse effect;
The loss of trees reduces CO2 sequestration;
The melting permafrost releases methane, a potent greenhouse gas.

Some year we hit the point of no return, perhaps we already have.

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Canada's last fully intact ice shelf has suddenly collapsed, forming a Manhattan-sized iceberg

... Climate change likely fueled the collapse of the shelf, researchers said. This summer, the region's temperature was 9 degrees Fahrenheit warmer than the 1980 to 2010 average, Luke Copland, a glaciology professor at the University of Ottawa, told the Associated Press....

A research camp was lost when the shelf broke apart, as was the northern hemisphere's last known epishelf, a kind of freshwater lake, flanked by ice, that sits on top of ocean water....

The Arctic is warming much faster than the rest of the world, a phenomenon known as polar amplification, and those hot temperatures are causing ice to melt. Today, for example, polar ice caps are melting six times faster than in the 1990s.

In Canada, there used to be a continuous ice shelf spanning the northern coast of Ellesmere, but human-made warming has caused it to break apart, White said. By 2005, Milne was "really the last complete ice shelf," she told the Associated Press....

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Trump Scraps Rule On Potent Greenhouse Gas (methane) As Climate Disasters Mount

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Everything Is Extremely Normal and Totally Fine

[billy.pilgrim]

I don't know if that number of 4700 birds killed per year is still accurate, but to put in perspective...
Depending on the study you read, cats kill from several million to over 2 billion birds a year in the US. And loss of habitat kills off even more each year.

And BTW, 47 million get eaten today.

Even the worst estimates of windmill kill never compare them to dead birds per KwH for coal, oil and gas. Funny that.

I'll bet you're kicking yourself over not asking about the cancer .

This is cool. Painting one blade reduces bird deaths by 70%

https://www.fastcompany.com/90543981/pa ... -deaths-70

[O Really]

I don't know if that number of 4700 birds killed per year is still accurate, but to put in perspective...
Depending on the study you read, cats kill from several million to over 2 billion birds a year in the US. And loss of habitat kills off even more each year.

And BTW, 47 million get eaten today.

Even the worst estimates of windmill kill never compare them to dead birds per KwH for coal, oil and gas. Funny that.

I'll bet you're kicking yourself over not asking about the cancer .

This is cool. Painting one blade reduces bird deaths by 70%

https://www.fastcompany.com/90543981/pa ... -deaths-70

Yeah, I saw that. But I didn't want to be the one to mention dead birds again.

[billy.pilgrim]

I don't know if that number of 4700 birds killed per year is still accurate, but to put in perspective...
Depending on the study you read, cats kill from several million to over 2 billion birds a year in the US. And loss of habitat kills off even more each year.

And BTW, 47 million get eaten today.

Even the worst estimates of windmill kill never compare them to dead birds per KwH for coal, oil and gas. Funny that.

I'll bet you're kicking yourself over not asking about the cancer .

This is cool. Painting one blade reduces bird deaths by 70%

https://www.fastcompany.com/90543981/pa ... -deaths-70

Yeah, I saw that. But I didn't want to be the one to mention dead birds again.

Pretty simple idea to have taken so long for a green industry to try out.

Now - what about glass buildings - maybe some of those huge decals people put on vans and garage doors depicting attacking eagles and striking snakes would work.

[billy.pilgrim]

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/0 ... ida-410042

Coastal states should all give trump a golf resort at their most vulnerable beaches.

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https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/0 ... ida-410042

Coastal states should all give trump a golf resort at their most vulnerable beaches.

Not just because of oil spills, sea level rise, too.

Irish planners reject Trump golf resort's plan to build wall
Officials say proposed 38,000-tonne sea barrier could damage sand dunes at Doonbeg resort

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Scientists protest as Trump picks climate change skeptic for key NOAA post

President Trump has tapped a climate skeptic to help run the federal agency charged with overseeing the government’s research on climate change.

David Legates, a professor of climatology at the University of Delaware and a member of the Heartland Institute, a conservative think tank that denies climate change represents a serious threat to the world, was appointed last week to serve as the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration’s deputy assistant secretary of commerce for environmental observation and prediction, NPR reported.

The appointment comes as wildfires that most scientists agree have been made worse by climate change continue to rage throughout the Western states. Temperature records continue to fall, with NASA concluding that 2010-2019 was the hottest decade ever recorded. Hurricane Sally, the latest in a series of unusually strong tropical storms that scientists believe are linked to warming oceans, unleashed torrential downpours on Alabama and Florida on Wednesday. For just the second time in recorded history, five tropical cyclones are now active in the Atlantic Ocean....

Legates also published a 2007 paper questioning whether the habitat for polar bears was being affected by climate change, Inside Climate News reported. That paper was based on research funded by ExxonMobil, the American Petroleum Institute and Koch Industries.

Sea ice in the Arctic has been shrinking by as much as 14 percent per decade, leading to starvation among some populations of polar bears that depend on it for hunting seals.

In response to Legates’s appointment at NOAA, the nonprofit American Geophysical Union issued a terse statement calling for his removal.

“With climate change producing raging wildfires in the western United States and devastating hurricanes in the Atlantic, our nation — and the world — cannot afford to have our federal government undermining the important work of climate scientists,” the group said on its website. “Legates’ appointment not only threatens our ability to combat the climate crisis and protect our planet for future generations, it undermines scientific integrity at NOAA.” ...

Sigh.

[billy.pilgrim]

Well deb, that's pretty much the way it goes on this forum, but then you wouldn't know that, would you?

[neoplacebo]

I hope that's not another whiny perpetual victim and universal snowflake who has ventured out of their bubble in a tentative way. Shit.

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I hope that's not another whiny perpetual victim and universal snowflake who has ventured out of their bubble in a tentative way. Shit.

I'm pretty sure that "she" is a bot.

‘Vote the a--holes out.’ Strong, hidden message on Patagonia clothing tags are real

... Patagonia confirmed the tags’ legitimacy to several media outlets — but they’re only used on one item.

“The tags are real,” a spokesperson for Patagonia told outdoor magazine Backpacker. “They were added to our 2020 Men’s and Women’s Regenerative Organic Stand-Up Shorts because we have been standing up to climate deniers for almost as long as we’ve been making those shorts.”

The outdoor outfitter told Adventure Journal that the phrase isn’t partisan, but rather a reference to “politicians from any party who deny climate change is real, or don’t believe we should do anything about climate change, not because they aren’t aware of it, but because their pockets are lined with money from oil and gas interests.” ...

This isn’t the first time Patagonia has waded into political waters.

The company donated every penny made during its 2016 Black Friday sales to environmental nonprofit organizations, Mashable reported.

In 2017, Patagonia condemned the Trump administration for its efforts to shrink Bears Ears National Monument, writing on the brand homepage that “The President Stole Your Land,” Backpacker reported. The House Committee on Natural Resources responded in a tweet that said “Patagonia is lying to you,” and blasted the company, saying it hijacked the debate to make sales, according to the magazine.

For at least 25 years Patagonia has supported green groups, including some quite radical nonviolent ones.

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The Arctic hasn't been this warm for 3 million years – and that foreshadows big changes for the rest of the planet

Every year, sea ice cover in the Arctic Ocean shrinks to a low point in mid-September. This year it measures just 1.44 million square miles (3.74 million square kilometers) – the second-lowest value in the 42 years since satellites began taking measurements. The ice today covers only 50% of the area it covered 40 years ago in late summer.

As the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change has shown, carbon dioxide levels in the atmosphere are higher than at any time in human history. The last time that atmospheric CO2 concentrations reached today’s level – about 412 parts per million – was 3 million years ago, during the Pliocene Epoch.

As geoscientists who study the evolution of Earth’s climate and how it creates conditions for life, we see evolving conditions in the Arctic as an indicator of how climate change could transform the planet. If global greenhouse gas emissions continue to rise, they could return the Earth to Pliocene conditions, with higher sea levels, shifted weather patterns and altered conditions in both the natural world and human societies....

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James Hansen

James Edward Hansen (born March 29, 1941) is an American adjunct professor directing the Program on Climate Science, Awareness and Solutions of the Earth Institute at Columbia University. He is best known for his research in climatology, his 1988 Congressional testimony on climate change that helped raise broad awareness of global warming, and his advocacy of action to avoid dangerous climate change. In recent years he has become a climate activist to mitigate the effects of global warming, on a few occasions leading to his arrest....

NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies 1967–2013

... The first climate prediction computed from a general circulation model that was published by Hansen was in 1988, the same year as his well-known Senate testimony. The second generation of the GISS model was used to estimate the change in mean surface temperature based on a variety of scenarios of future greenhouse gas emissions. Hansen concluded that global warming would be evident within the next few decades, and that it would result in temperatures at least as high as during the Eemian. He argued that if the temperature rose 0.4 °C above the 1950–1980 mean for a few years, it would be the "smoking gun" pointing to human-caused global warming....

US Senate committee testimony

Hansen was invited by Rafe Pomerance to testify before the United States Senate Committee on Energy and Natural Resources on June 23, 1988. Hansen testified that "Global warming has reached a level such that we can ascribe with a high degree of confidence a cause and effect relationship between the greenhouse effect and observed warming...It is already happening now" and "The greenhouse effect has been detected and it is changing our climate now...We already reached the point where the greenhouse effect is important." Hansen said that NASA was 99% confident that the warming was caused by the accumulation of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere and not a random fluctuation.

According to science historian Spencer R. Weart, Hansen's testimony increased public awareness of climate change. According to Richard Besel of California Polytechnic State University, Hansen's testimony "was an important turning point in the history of global climate change." According to Timothy M. O'Donnell of the University of Mary Washington, Hansen's testimony was "pivotal," "ignited public discussion of global warming and moved the controversy from a largely scientific discussion to a full blown science policy debate," and marked "the official beginning of the global warming policy debate." According to Roger A. Pielke of the National Center for Atmospheric Research, Hansen's "call to action" "elevated the subject of global warming and the specter of associated impacts such as more hurricanes, floods, and heat waves, to unprecedented levels of attention from the public, media, and policy makers." ...

60 Minutes:
Hansen's 1988 paper accurately predicted 2020 global temps!
Hansen, paraphrased: I thought govts would take action to prevent my predictions from happening.

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California Family Watches Their Mansion Burn in Wildfires (video)

The Behle family, like many others in southern California, lost their home to wildfires. But unlike most, they had the displeasure of watching their multi-million dollar mansion burn in real time via their home security system. During news coverage of the fires, viewers noticed a large Trump 2020 banner in the family’s front yard, and mean comments started rolling in. “Even Mother Nature doesn’t like Trump supporters” cracked one person online.

This is not just about political differences. If you're fat cats that support an AGW denier, grow up and accept the consequences of your poor choices.

[neoplacebo]

I saw a story today that trump has fired the senior people at NOAA and replaced them with science deniers and blatant jerk offs. The cult gushes in awe. What say you pp?

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I saw a story today that trump has fired the senior people at NOAA and replaced them with science deniers and blatant jerk offs. The cult gushes in awe. What say you pp?

Now . . .

US formally quits Paris agreement as election hangs in balance

The United States left the Paris accord on Wednesday, becoming the first country to ever withdraw from an international climate change pact as the fate of its presidential election hangs in the balance.

It may prove to be a temporary blip before a Joe Biden administration rejoins the agreement. Otherwise, the global effort to rein in the Earth's warming will have to proceed without the government of the world's second biggest carbon emitter....

[O Really]

Well, I don't know if Global Warming contributed, but we had an absolutely glorious day today. Close to 80 degrees, cloudless sky, low humidity, gentle breeze, spectacular sunset. We've found that being on the beach with nobody within 20 yards or so, 7-foot waves breaking, and a warm sun tends to drown out anything Trump, covid, right-wing maniacs. Same or better effect than a yoga session, with lots less work. And tomorrow is expected to be the same.