2020 Elections

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Don't scare people.

The same person who is president on Jan 20, 2021 afternoon will be president on Feb 1, 2021. And there is no "all white house" because the big hanging light fixture at the front door is black. I think it's the same way out back.

FTFY.

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And the Democrats can't be sure that they are going to beat this guy?

What does that say about them? What does it say about America?

Trump has figured out the key to political success in America: appeal to the lowest common denominator. But America deserves better than Trump.

Why? I figure that we've mostly gotten the pols we deserve.

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Biden's Lead Over Trump Has Widened Despite Coronavirus Campaign Setback: Reuters/Ipsos Poll

... According to the poll, conducted with 1,100 participants, 46% of the registered voters said they would support Biden over Trump in the November general election if the former gets Democratic nomination. In comparison, only 40% said they would prefer Trump over Biden.

Only 46-40 is a sad reflection on us.

The Democratic contender, who has the edge over rival Bernie Sanders in the Democratic primaries so far, has increased the lead by five points from a poll conducted early last month by Reuters and Ipsos. 44% of those polled approved of Trump's performance in the office and 48% of his coronavirus response, Reuters noted. In comparison, 70% of the participants approved of their state governors' response to the pandemic....

That's typical for a crisis leader. 48% or even the 60% approval for PINO's coronavirus response reported in the last couple of weeks is pretty anemic. Whichever, as people learn more and the mortality increases I believe his rating will plummet.

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Trump’s Lost Months Are Killing Us. Here’s How to Make Them Politically Fatal for Him.

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Today I am suspending my campaign. But while the campaign ends, the struggle for justice continues on.
-- Bernie Sanders

Suspension video.
It looks like it was filmed in his home, which is socialist distancing .

Thanks for trying, Bernie!

Now, it's in the hands of CV-19. Then, we voters choose from among the survivors and replacements in Nov.

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Buh-bye, Bernie!
I think that was a good move, and undoubtedly a painful one for him.

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Buh-bye, Bernie!
I think that was a good move, and undoubtedly a painful one for him.

Biden sure wrapped that up fast. Cons were gleefully claiming that the large Dem field and bickering was ensuring a PINO win. It'll all be ancient history 7 months from now.

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Biden should take Gov Newsom as VP and then resign in February. The man is doing a great job of decision-making, team-building, making things happen, and communicating to the public. Cuomo is doing a great job, too, but he's not nearly as photogenic.

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Biden should take Gov Newsom as VP and then resign in February. The man is doing a great job of decision-making, team-building, making things happen, and communicating to the public. Cuomo is doing a great job, too, but he's not nearly as photogenic.

Not that I'm a big fan, but why should Biden resign in February after going to all the effort of winning?


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Well, I was never convinced Hillary did anything unfair in the 2016 primaries. She had the delegates to win the nomination, Bernie didn't. And Bernie supporters who sat out the 2016 election have only themselves to blame for Trump's presidency.

Hillary used the existing system, within its rules, to her own advantage. I'm shocked! Shocked I say.
A lot of Bernie's! fans like being victims.

I don't blame HRC for trying to win the nomination by using all the tools available. I do blame DWS and the DNC for putting their thumbs on the scale.

I agree with .Oomba. AFAIK, the only claims of DNC bias this round was a rules change that got Bloomberg on the debate stage. That potentially hurt Biden the most, but amounted to nothing, anyhow. I think Biden's nomination is more credible than Hillary's was because Perez and the DNC stayed neutral. Most Bernie! supporters should have no reason to be butthurt over losing a fair fight. I sure don't have any animosity over it, other than wishing that all of America was more progressive.

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Biden should take Gov Newsom as VP and then resign in February. The man is doing a great job of decision-making, team-building, making things happen, and communicating to the public. Cuomo is doing a great job, too, but he's not nearly as photogenic.

Not that I'm a big fan, but why should Biden resign in February after going to all the effort of winning?

It wasn't a real suggestion. I was just making a fantasy trip on how to get Newsom into the White House. But Biden has already committed to a female VP, so Newsom would be out in any case.

Along the lines of my fantasy trip, however, would be that Biden has tried for the Presidency since, I think, 1988, and has never made the finals much less the election. Now, he may actually get elected. Goooooaaaaaalll! Retire at the top without having to deal with the mess.

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... Along the lines of my fantasy trip, however, would be that Biden has tried for the Presidency since, I think, 1988, and has never made the finals much less the election. Now, he may actually get elected. Goooooaaaaaalll! Retire at the top without having to deal with the mess.

If he survives CV-19 Biden MAY be a better POTUS than he is a candidate, at least I hope so.

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I'm on a bunch of lefty mailing lists and so far I haven't seen any of them griping that Bernie! got screwed, should have stayed in the race, or saying that we shouldn't vote for Joe. Of course, there's lamentation over the corporatization of the Dem Party, but that's longstanding, accurate, and not specific to this election.

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Of course, there's lamentation over the corporatization of the Dem Party, but that's longstanding, accurate, and not specific to this election.

When was it not?

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... Of course, there's lamentation over the corporatization of the Dem Party, but that's longstanding, accurate, and not specific to this election.

When was it not?

I think less so when campaign finance wasn't quite so out of control, but maybe I'm wrong. If the latter, I think it's still legit to bitch about how much of our democracy is outsourced to Wall St.

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Why Joe Biden Should Pick One of These Two Black Women as His Vice President

... In my opinion, as a black woman, Biden’s choice, without question, should be a black woman. Here is why: When Barack Obama secured the nomination for president of the United States of America in 2008, he chose the older, wiser, gray-haired, white male senior senator from Delaware, Joe Biden. Although Biden was not the exciting choice, he was the right choice for the young, black nominee. Obama was going to be the nation’s first black executive. He needed to reassure those nervous about history’s choice, that he would have someone “safe” and known to the public by his side.

Now, Biden needs to send the opposite signal: that it is time for America to trust a woman who represents the backbone of the Democratic Party with the vice presidency, one who is ready on day one, if need be, to serve as president....

Joe Biden now has a chance to buck history’s tide. Two white women have been nominated for vice president, Geraldine Ferraro in 1984 and Sarah Palin in 2008. If I were advising Biden strictly along electoral guidelines, I would tell him the governor of Michigan, Gretchen Whitmer, or Sen. Tammy Baldwin of Wisconsin would make great choices. They both would likely bring key electoral states that Trump carried in 2016 into his column on Election Day.

But Sen. Kamala Harris, who wouldn’t get him anything electorally, would deliver something Biden must have in 2020: the intense and energized black vote that eluded Hillary Clinton in 2016. She is a member of Alpha Kappa Alpha Sorority Inc. (which is also my sorority and we have a powerful army of more than 300,000 members worldwide to help her raise money and be foot soldiers on the ground). Another strong choice electorally and along color lines is Florida Rep. Val Demings, who served as a House impeachment manager during the Trump impeachment. She too could produce that excitement, and help Biden compete for Florida, a state that Trump can’t afford to lose....

The author makes a strong case, but I'm not entirely convinced. Priority #1 is beating PINO, period.

I was a little surprised that Biden promised to pick a woman, but maybe he still thought that he needed to do so in order to ensure the nomination, or it's a matter of sincere principle to him. If the latter, kudos. Whatever, it's now a box that he probably can't and won't exit.

No one will be more thrilled than me if we get our first female VP, even better if it's a Black woman. However, I hope that Biden's team does the correct polling and analysis to ID the woman that's most likely to lead to victory. That could very well be a Black woman energizing at least some of those traditional nonvoters that blasted Obama into office in 2008.

I don't know Florida Rep. Val Demings and did not watch much of the impeachment. Did she do a good job as a House impeachment manager?

I'm not a big fan of Sen. Kamala Harris, but the VP selection is more about winning than it is about becoming POTUS. Caveat - this changes somewhat with a nominee as old as Biden. If Harris creates the best odds of a Nov win, I'm a Harris cheerleader.

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If the VP candidate is Kamala Harris, I'm fine with it. Stacey Adams, not so much. Somebody might as well admit the dirty truth - a lot of people wouldn't want to see her a "heartbeat away" from a 78 year old President if for no other reason than she is a Black woman. On the other hand, if he could get Michelle O to run with him ...

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Whoa - here's the ad I've been wanting to see. Play it, Sam, Play it again.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/nanc ... -ad-should

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Whoa - here's the ad I've been wanting to see. Play it, Sam, Play it again.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/nanc ... -ad-should

That's one of many, many ads of that type we are going to be seeing in the fall. Let's face it, the dems have four years of some real low hanging fruit to choose from. Let's hope they choose well.

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If the VP candidate is Kamala Harris, I'm fine with it. Stacey Adams, not so much. Somebody might as well admit the dirty truth - a lot of people wouldn't want to see her a "heartbeat away" from a 78 year old President if for no other reason than she is a Black woman. On the other hand, if he could get Michelle O to run with him ...

I've always been a bit of a dinosaur when it comes to candidates vp picks. The first and most important criteria should be can they be a good President/Leader/Commander in chief. It's the only decision of consequence that a nominee makes. McCain failed miserably. Let's hope Joe, at his age chooses wisely.

that said, Klobuchar would also be a good pick.

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Whoa - here's the ad I've been wanting to see. Play it, Sam, Play it again.
https://crooksandliars.com/2020/04/nanc ... -ad-should

That's one of many, many ads of that type we are going to be seeing in the fall. Let's face it, the dems have four years of some real low hanging fruit to choose from. Let's hope they choose well.

Great ad if your audience is already convinced and already knows the back story. In a way it reminds me of Hillary's great plan to never run ads on right wing media. She felt that her money would be better spent on the choir.
Why not explain or hit harder when there was more than enough time for it? How does anyone expect to change minds by "telling tales" on trump using unsupported statements - of course they are true, but why say that he glints over tv ratings and blames hospital employees for stealing medical equipment using a blank screen?
Even if the ad runs on fox, there's nothing here to back up these true statements.

Why ask someone to change their mind without showing them as many examples of "why" as you are able to in the ad?
The twit about hospital workers stealing and the picture of him fiddling become false "claims" by dems if the pictures are omitted. Why not show the twit about stealing, the rating comment (i don't remember if it was a twit or at his a daily afternoon rallies), and the picture he retwited of himself fiddling?

And why end with a black screen and a disembodied spoken statement from the ad maker saying that trump "fiddles"? what would have been wrong with using the picture of him fiddling that people who watch fox never saw?

And why use Rachel Maddow, someone they all agree to hate, in the ad at all?

Maybe the ad maker didn't really want to upend anyone's beliefs and threw Rachel in to make it easier to dismiss the whole thing.

Damn people have everything they need to show this piece of crap for what he is. Now is not the time to act like democrats and pussy-foot around the edges, go with it all every time.

I hope the ads start hitting harder. informing even 2 or 3% of his base would be a good goal.