Cubby allowed the article to cloud his own judgment, happens a lot with leftists.Supsalemgr wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 3:09 pmThe question was simple and you did not answer it.GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:47 pmTry to pay attention, he's showing debunked pictures and making accusations of genocide.Supsalemgr wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 2:40 pmSo you agree taking an owner's property and possibly doing them harm is OK?
And BTW you gullible numbnut, there's been no land grab, just another conspiracy theory.
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2025/5/2 ... phosa-spat
Why don't you try come armed with some facts sometimes? You'll look a whole lot less foolish.
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Fucking whackadoodle.
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Prediction.
The Pentagon has never looked at this plane and doesn't have the beginning of a plan to retrofit and upgrade much less the expertise to do so as well as an idea of the cost. We will hear little about it going forward.
It's never going to fly as AF1 and trump will try to take it in 2029 with a bunch of cosmetic upgrades paid for by the taxpayers.
The Pentagon has never looked at this plane and doesn't have the beginning of a plan to retrofit and upgrade much less the expertise to do so as well as an idea of the cost. We will hear little about it going forward.
It's never going to fly as AF1 and trump will try to take it in 2029 with a bunch of cosmetic upgrades paid for by the taxpayers.
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GoCubsGo wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 4:13 pmFucking whackadoodle.
https://bsky.app/profile/billmccarthy.b ... pf6ykcok2m

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It's beyond understanding that no one in the west wing vets anything simply to make the emperor look less foolish and somewhat informed.Vrede too wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 5:54 pmGoCubsGo wrote: ↑Wed May 21, 2025 4:13 pmFucking whackadoodle.
https://bsky.app/profile/billmccarthy.b ... pf6ykcok2mPINO is actually holding up a copy of an American Thinker article as credible evidence. No surprise that it "Displays DRC Visual As Proof Of South African 'Genocide'". What a fool! A functioning intelligence infrastructure prevents such stupid mistakes, but PINO has replaced its leadership with sycophants and morons.
Stay tuned for a trumper tantrum and deflection when the facts eventually reach him.
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South African President Cyril Ramaphosa: I'm sorry, I don't have a plane to give you.


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Shame on Trump
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Trump is a racist. Who knew?A few of us suspected it![]()
There have been 139 mass shootings in the US so far in 2025.One near me at a Las Vegas gym the other day.
This propagandist video is of a cult group aspiring to become a recognized party in South Africa. It would be like showing a video of the Proud Boys in action and saying that it represents all of the US.Sadly groups like the Proud Boys represent far more US citizens than many would like to admit.


Wow! Whats is making you a greater nation by acting like this? It will take years to gain back trust from other countries. Nobody taking you seriously. You can put gold everywhere..but it will never make a person greater. Class and respect is free from what I know
Whites, 7% of the population, still own 72% of the farmland.Nothing is more obscene than the racists who stole African land claiming to be victims of the very people they stole it from
"Fringe theories"
They're called racist lies.The job of Nazi propagandists is to bring.widespread acceptance to fringe theories.
Many more.
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I am so sorry I missed your answer to whether you agree with the taking of someone's property. Your silence answered he question.
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Surely to god you're not that stupid. For one thing, what you're whining about is not happening. Second, alleging that someone is "in favor" of land seizures when none ore happening is just ignorant. Third, you must have been out of the country when trump seized private land for parts of his border wall....as Cubs pointed out. Finally, the concept of eminent domain has been in effect in the US for a long time.Supsalemgr wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 6:13 amI am so sorry I missed your answer to whether you agree with the taking of someone's property. Your silence answered he question.
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Yes, SoupySales is that stupid, "lost a step" as GoCubsGo says.neoplacebo wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 8:43 amSurely to god you're not that stupid. For one thing, what you're whining about is not happening. Second, alleging that someone is "in favor" of land seizures when none are happening is just ignorant. Third, you must have been out of the country when trump seized private land for parts of his border wall....as Cubs pointed out. Finally, the concept of eminent domain has been in effect in the US for a long time.
It should be noted that most or all of those ranchers whose land Dolt .45 seized are White. I don't remember SoupySales' RW having a cow over that.
As I posted above, Whites are 7% of the South African population yet still own 72% of the farmland. This is 31 years after Nelson Mandela became president. 31 years! If Blacks are seizing land, they really suck at it.
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I'm glad you pointed out that trump used fringe right wing bullshit media articles as his "evidence" of genocide. Reminds me of how he insisted to Terry Moran that Garcia is a member of MS-13 by referencing a faked photo. I guess trump and his moronic cult members will believe any damn thing he spews, no matter how absurd. It's truly something to behold.Vrede too wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 9:05 amYes, SoupySales is that stupid, "lost a step" as GoCubsGo says.neoplacebo wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 8:43 amSurely to god you're not that stupid. For one thing, what you're whining about is not happening. Second, alleging that someone is "in favor" of land seizures when none are happening is just ignorant. Third, you must have been out of the country when trump seized private land for parts of his border wall....as Cubs pointed out. Finally, the concept of eminent domain has been in effect in the US for a long time.
It should be noted that most or all of those ranchers whose land Dolt .45 seized are White. I don't remember SoupySales' RW having a cow over that.
As I posted above, Whites are 7% of the South African population yet still own 72% of the farmland. This is 31 years after Nelson Mandela became president. 31 years! If Blacks are seizing land, they really suck at it.
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GoCubsGo and I tag-teamed that one. It is really funny that the pic he held up is from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, not South Africa. No wonder SoupySales is so confused.neoplacebo wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 9:14 amI'm glad you pointed out that trump used fringe right wing bullshit media articles as his "evidence" of genocide....
Full disclosure: It looks like some of that White farmland produces wines called Rust en Vrede (Rest and Peace in Afrikaans).

Doesn't seem to be an issue, though. "President Nelson Mandela selects Rust en Vrede to be served at the Nobel Peace Prize dinner in Oslo, Norway."

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When Trump was speaking the the South African president and claimed there's a genocide of white folks occuring, the president retorted by pointing out had that been the case the Minister of Agriculture (a white guy) wouldn't be there. He also pointed out several of his staff were white. Not sure of their positions in government though.
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Watchdog: Trump’s Planned Dinner With Competing $TRUMP Coin Holders Is Race to the Bottom for Presidential Grifting
Donald Trump’s prior string of dubious money-making schemes that traded on his presidential brand were child’s play compared to his latest and most brazen grift to date. On May 22, the President will attend a private dinner “with the top 220 holders of the Trump memecoin,” the cryptocurrency venture Donald and Melania Trump launched just days before his second inauguration, which quickly made themselves nearly $100 million dollars and that ethics experts warned could be a vehicle “‘to circumvent national security and anti-corruption laws”.
... One of the event taglines even reads: “Own a Piece of Trump.” ...
“Never in U.S. presidential history has there been a more nakedly corrupt self-enrichment scheme,” said Accountable.US Executive Director Tony Carrk. “The President is openly inviting investors to have a bidding war over who can buy the most access to him while he laughs all the way to the bank. There has never been a clearer case of a President using their office to put money in their pocket, or greater potential for special interests to buy an administration’s favor that could threaten the public interest. Donald Trump is trampling over every historical ethical norm to see how much corruption he can get away with before his allies in Congress flinch. While Donald Trump wines and dines with his wealthy backers seeking access to the executive branch, working people across the country brace for higher costs under the Trump tariffs and less health security under the Trump budget.”


“None of these Republicans who screamed bloody murder about the ‘Biden crime family’ say a word about the sitting president raking in cash like he’s a craps dealer at Caesars Palace.”
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Vrede too wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 9:47 amGoCubsGo and I tag-teamed that one. It is really funny that the pic he held up is from the Democratic Republic of the Congo, not South Africa. No wonder SoupySales is so confused.neoplacebo wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 9:14 amI'm glad you pointed out that trump used fringe right wing bullshit media articles as his "evidence" of genocide....
Full disclosure: It looks like some of that White farmland produces wines called Rust en Vrede (Rest and Peace in Afrikaans).
Doesn't seem to be an issue, though. "President Nelson Mandela selects Rust en Vrede to be served at the Nobel Peace Prize dinner in Oslo, Norway."![]()

But that fellow maybe should not be out there alone on the land. Hell, what if there are ninety five genocide advocates hiding in the vines just waiting for the chance to engage in more genocide and take more land. Rust en Vrede, baby.
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I forgot to append the website: https://rustenvrede.com/neoplacebo wrote: ↑Fri May 23, 2025 7:43 amVrede too wrote: ↑Thu May 22, 2025 9:47 am
Full disclosure: It looks like some of that White farmland produces wines called Rust en Vrede (Rest and Peace in Afrikaans).
https://rustenvrede.com/wp-content/uplo ... /02/29.jpg
Doesn't seem to be an issue, though. "President Nelson Mandela selects Rust en Vrede to be served at the Nobel Peace Prize dinner in Oslo, Norway."![]()
A tribute in wine. Cool.
But that fellow maybe should not be out there alone on the land. Hell, what if there are ninety five genocide advocates hiding in the vines just waiting for the chance to engage in more genocide and take more land. Rust en Vrede, baby.
Years ago Wneglia found the wine in a store and shared some with k9nanny. They said it was good.
Good point. That White farmer may already be dead and buried in that "burial ground" that isn't a burial ground that PINO showed in his stupid White supremacist video. The historic, award-winning Rust en Vrede wine may have all been replaced by MD 20/20, Ripple and Thunderbird.

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Oh no, Mango King shamed by a Black man, again. Our nation is a laughingstock.Trump’s attempt at Oval Office ‘gotcha’ moment backfired spectacularly - all because Ramaphosa kept his cool
... Trump, armed with printouts of tabloid news articles and a montage of video clips, channeling a terminally online and conspiracy theory-loving uncle at an uncomfortable Thanksgiving dinner, launched into a meandering explanation of the current political situation in South Africa to its president.
“We have thousands of stories talking about it. We have documentaries, we have news stories,” Trump said, addressing his South African counterpart....
You can walk away from a difficult uncle when he tries to force you to watch YouTube videos about who really did 9/11. It’s harder when the difficult uncle is the most powerful man on the planet and the world’s press is filming you....
Ramaphosa kept his cool, even if he looked exasperated. He tried to interject, but was rebuffed by an entranced Trump, who also occasionally added commentary.
“Now, this is very bad. These are burial sites right here. Burial sites of over 1000 white farmers,” he said. The South African contingent looked stunned, which makes sense since rather than being grave sites of murdered farmers, the mounds with crosses were actually part of a protest to stop the violence.
As the video came to a close, an aide handed Trump a pile of printed-out articles from tabloid websites....
Trump has the most powerful intelligence agencies in the world at his command, and could surely have produced a detailed and damning report on the alleged white genocide in South Africa and presented it to the world’s press.
Instead, the print outs appeared more like the Facebook feed of someone in danger of ending up on an FBI watchlist.
The meeting continued to go off the rails as Trump opined on the non-existent genocide to a room full of South Africans — Black and white — who were telling him it was not a thing....
Remarkably, and against all odds, Ramaphosa was able to salvage the meeting, calmly responding to the most egregious of the claims made by Trump and his videos.
“We have a multi-party democracy in South Africa that allows people to express themselves,” he said, explaining that none of the people in the video were members of his government. “Our government policy is completely, completely against what he was saying.”
Explaining that there is no evidence of white people being specifically targeted in South Africa, but that farmers of all races are victims of violent home invasions, would have taken a bit longer.
South African police data shows that 225 people were killed on farms in South Africa between April 2020 to March 2024 — but around half of those victims were current or former workers living on farms, who tend to be Black. Around 50 were farmers, who are usually white.
By the end, Trump had been hit with so many contradictory facts from the South African delegation that he looked as though he was almost beginning to question his printouts. Either that or he was bored and wanted to return to his other favorite activity: calling the press incompetent idiots.
Ramaphosa played a smart game. It wasn’t just the golf diplomacy, although that certainly helped. He brought a skilled diplomatic team who had been prepped for a showdown. Among them was the country’s Minister for Agriculture, John Steenhuisen, a white man and a member of a rival party, who told Trump that South Africa had a rural crime problem, not a white genocide problem. Ramaphosa repeatedly invoked Nelson Mandela and South Africa’s history of racial peacemaking since apartheid.
By the end, the mood had lightened. Ramaphosa even had the poise to crack a joke.
“I am sorry I don't have a plane to give you,” he said when Trump was in the middle of a rant about the media after being questioned on his new Qatari jet....
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Opps, how humiliating for PINO. I'm sure he'll be issuing a correction when he returns from a taxpayer-funded weekend of golfing in Florida.South Africa town leader 'sad' about Trump's misuse of white crosses video
A local representative of an area shown in a video played at the White House said she was "sad" that U.S. President Donald Trump used the footage of hundreds of white crosses as false evidence of mass killings of white South African farmers....

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Yep, a pretty much daily international embarrassment. The cult gushes in stupefied awe.
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Guess I'm not the only one who sees this as a possibility.
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