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Ulysses wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:41 pm
For some reason I find I don't eat much pork. Mostly chicken and beef. Sometimes lamb. Not for religious or ethnic reasons, I just figure that since it's so much cheaper than beef it's not as good. That and trichinosis.
Price in this case is a function of resource investment, not quality of the finished product.

I don't think factory chicken and beef practices are any better than factory pork.
Trichinosis: Food preparation

... All meat (including pork) can be safely prepared by cooking to an internal temperature of 165 °F (74 °C) or higher for 15 seconds or more....

Pork can be safely cooked to a slightly lower temperature, provided that the internal meat temperature is at least as hot for at least as long as listed in the USDA table below....
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Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:36 pm
Plastics in our meat. Some dude that worked on a Smithfield farm filmed how plastic waste gets ground up and fed to pigs.apparr

Http://www.salon.com/2021/10/17/plastic-in-meat/

I hate how everything is wrapped in so much plastic. Such a waste.
Commercial food production is insane. We are cutting too many regulations when we should be adding.
The big stockyards feed cattle corn to increase the fat and because cattle don't have the most efficient digestive system they dry out and re-feed the shit to them.

And in separate insanity, some pet food contains pets. Much of pet meat comes from China and includes dog meat, but there is also a market for euthanized animals here. They’re finding sometimes dangerous levels of sodium pentothal in pet food.
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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:56 am
Whack9 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:36 pm
Plastics in our meat. Some dude that worked on a Smithfield farm filmed how plastic waste gets ground up and fed to pigs.apparr

Http://www.salon.com/2021/10/17/plastic-in-meat/

I hate how everything is wrapped in so much plastic. Such a waste.
Commercial food production is insane. We are cutting too many regulations when we should be adding.
The big stockyards feed cattle corn to increase the fat and because cattle don't have the most efficient digestive system they dry out and re-feed the shit to them.

And in separate insanity, some pet food contains pets. Much of pet meat comes from China and includes dog meat, but there is also a market for euthanized animals here. They’re finding sometimes dangerous levels of sodium pentothal in pet food.
Hmm. I wonder if this is why my house cat sometimes turns her nose up at Friskies. However the porch cats will gobble up just about anything I set out for them.

IDK if Friskies contents comes from China. However I was unable to buy it at Costco for most of Dec-Jan, the reason given was the ship was tied up in port waiting to unload. Which could be a clue the contents were from China. IDK. Just looked at the can labels and they don't say China or any other country of origin. The big box containing 60 cans says "Mfg by Purina/Nestle, St Louis, Missouri". Of course that doesn't guarantee country of origin for all the ingredients. IDK.

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The Purina stuff is made in the actual boardroom of the company in St Louis. It's why those Purina executives are so highly paid. Go Purina, beat Meow Mix.

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Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:26 pm
The Purina stuff is made in the actual boardroom of the company in St Louis. It's why those Purina executives are so highly paid. Go Purina, beat Meow Mix.
LOL.

Don't think so.

Even worse than the Purina/Friskies product is the 9 Lives stuff I got at Walmart as a stop-gap substitute. The indoor cat(s) turn their noses up at it. The porch cats will consume it, but apparently not with relish. In between the Friskies and the 9 Lives is a Walmart only brand, "Special KItty". I still have a LOT of that left over.

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billy.pilgrim wrote:
Thu Feb 17, 2022 1:56 am
Whack9 wrote:
Wed Feb 16, 2022 9:36 pm
Plastics in our meat. Some dude that worked on a Smithfield farm filmed how plastic waste gets ground up and fed to pigs.apparr

Http://www.salon.com/2021/10/17/plastic-in-meat/

I hate how everything is wrapped in so much plastic. Such a waste.
Commercial food production is insane. We are cutting too many regulations when we should be adding.
The big stockyards feed cattle corn to increase the fat and because cattle don't have the most efficient digestive system they dry out and re-feed the shit to them.

And in separate insanity, some pet food contains pets. Much of pet meat comes from China and includes dog meat, but there is also a market for euthanized animals here. They’re finding sometimes dangerous levels of sodium pentothal in pet food.
I found some local farms that sell chicken. I bet it's expensive though. But I'm still gonna check it out. I eat beef only a handful of times a year. Almost no pork.

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From Whack's Salon link:
Plastic pollution poses a serious threat to humanity, as chemicals in plastic products have been linked to dropping male fertility rates, cancer and other serious health ailments. Plastic pollution is also destroying the environment, with wildlife being entangled in abandoned fishing gear, sea turtles getting plastic straws up their noses and whales being beached with bellies full of junk. These are problems that exist independently of the meat industry – although, as Moore's videos attest, that industry has labor and pollution issues of its own.

As The Washington Post reported last year, meatpacking workers have seen their wages plummet by 50 percent since 1975, with median earnings in 2020 lingering at $14 per hour. With this decline in their livelihoods, there has also been a decline in working conditions. President Donald Trump closely aligned himself with meat manufacturers, successfully allowing for fewer inspectors and faster line speeds for poultry. The pork industry, not coincidentally, was also deregulated. Between these trends and the continued consolidation of the meat industry into a few large companies, it has become effectively impossible to guarantee that our meat is produced in a hygienic fashion. The COVID-19 pandemic has only made matters worse, with Trump compelling meat production factories to remain open to prevent supply chain disruptions as workers became sick. Climate change is also putting the meat industry under a microscope, as the majority of greenhouse gases created by food production come from the meat industry.
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Thu Feb 17, 2022 4:21 pm
I found some local farms that sell chicken. I bet it's expensive though. But I'm still gonna check it out. I eat beef only a handful of times a year. Almost no pork.
Going to local farms is laudable, but seems like a hassle. Don't you have a hippie grocery store that sells mostly organic, mostly local meats like Hooterville's Co-op does? No special trips, just part of your regular food shopping.
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I found some local farms that sell chicken. I bet it's expensive though. But I'm still gonna check it out. I eat beef only a handful of times a year. Almost no pork.
Going to local farms is laudable, but seems like a hassle. Don't you have a hippie grocery store that sells mostly organic, mostly local meats like Hooterville's Co-op does? No special trips, just part of your regular food shopping.
This is true. There's one not too far away actually. There's a bunch of ducks and geese in falls park I could probably nab under the cover of darkness too.

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This is true. There's one not too far away actually. There's a bunch of ducks and geese in falls park I could probably nab under the cover of darkness too.
That could work.

Of course they might be eating cigarette butts.

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This is true. There's one not too far away actually. There's a bunch of ducks and geese in falls park I could probably nab under the cover of darkness too.
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This is true. There's one not too far away actually. There's a bunch of ducks and geese in falls park I could probably nab under the cover of darkness too.
Ha!

I'm my early 20's I shared an apartment with a couple of buds. We had another friend who fancied himself a Man of the Woods or something. He showed up one day with a Canadian goose (probably pilfered from a golf course) and wanted to roast it. So, he cleaned and roasted the thing.....many, many hours in the oven.

It was disgusting.

I did not try it, neither did my roommates.
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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that's a fake sign. No self-respecting Chinese person I know would advertise their restaurant like that. And I grew up with a lot of Chinese folks. They are great people.

That it's fake is corroborated by a ton of similar signs with identical lettering and background that a Google image search coughs up.

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I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say that's a fake sign....
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I've decided to have a BLT sandwich except without the tomato. I fucking hate tomato and never did like anything soft and squishy in my mouth unless it was the tongue or other part of a human female. I like tomato soup and catsup but not the actual tomato. This whole thing about the sandwich is because I took some good medicine not long ago and its made me real fucking hungry. I know what bacon smells like and I can smell it even now.

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Mon Feb 21, 2022 4:05 pm
I've decided to have a BLT sandwich except without the tomato. I fucking hate tomato and never did like anything soft and squishy in my mouth unless it was the tongue or other part of a human female. I like tomato soup and catsup but not the actual tomato. This whole thing about the sandwich is because I took some good medicine not long ago and its made me real fucking hungry. I know what bacon smells like and I can smell it even now.
So neo has an aversion to tomatoes. I like them, but then I like most foods. Liver, not so much. And tongue (from a cow), ew. There is another food I hated when I was a kid, but for some reason I can't remember it now. But I'll know it if it's served.

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neoplacebo wrote:
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I've decided to have a BLT sandwich except without the tomato. I fucking hate tomato and never did like anything soft and squishy in my mouth unless it was the tongue or other part of a human female. I like tomato soup and catsup but not the actual tomato. This whole thing about the sandwich is because I took some good medicine not long ago and its made me real fucking hungry. I know what bacon smells like and I can smell it even now.
If there's one way to tolerate a tomato for the tomato adverse it's by covering it with a generous amount of bacon and mayo.

It's how I learned to like tomatoes.
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Not that it necessarily applies to anyone here, but a lot of people who don't like tomatoes are people who have never had a good one. The rock-hard semi-green stuff from the grocery doesn't count. It's barely the same food as the ones grown in a real garden and ripened on the vine, pulled off when ripe and immediately tossed into a salad, onto the BL or plopped on top of a Jimmy Buffet style burger.

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O Really wrote:
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Not that it necessarily applies to anyone here, but a lot of people who don't like tomatoes are people who have never had a good one. The rock-hard semi-green stuff from the grocery doesn't count. It's barely the same food as the ones grown in a real garden and ripened on the vine, pulled off when ripe and immediately tossed into a salad, onto the BL or plopped on top of a Jimmy Buffet style burger.
True dat.

One of the few I find semi palatable in the winter are campari tmaters.
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