Gun Legislation

[Cannonpointer]

You and the race baiters say it should have been held in the first place. The verdict says otherwise. The verdict confirms the judgment of the original team on the case, and shows the hysterical race baiters to have been full of shit.

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You've just had a great idea. Why have trials at all? Let's just take the first cop's opinion on it and move on Man, what a savings of time and money. Cop shows up, says, "looks like self defense to me" and everybody goes home. Nobody has to be called to jury duty. Eliminate a lot of money paying those over-priced prosecutors and defense lawyers. Just let the cops call it. What could possibly go wrong with that?

Are you really that out of touch? That is PRECISELY the system that we have - a little less hyperventilated, but yeah. How did you THINK it worked? Did you think that we ORDINARILY try people in the media? Did you think that the press REGULARLY dictates the court docket?

No. You were wrong about that.

What happens is, the prosecutor - SOMETHIMES in concert with the lead detective - makes a decision about whether the case should go to trial. In THIS case, the media decided to docket the case. The prosecutor - the actual professional - turned out to be right. Yep.

Google it. You'll see that I'm right. The media doesn't always decide what cases go to trial. In fact, only rarely - only to appease the race baiters.

[Cannonpointer]

You thoroughly mucked up the formatting. The only words there of mine are in the question you ducked. I guess you were too busy eliminating the fact that you just confirmed what I've been saying all along about the case and SYG.

As expected, Cannonpointer gets utterly debunked by one of the jurors he's been claiming to speak for and the best response he can come up with is vulgar childish petulance. No surprise, no surprise at all. More of the same:

Here's a case of a black man shooting a RETARDED white guy in Arizona recently.

No charges filed.

http://www.dominionofnewyork.com/2012/0 ... msXLRMo5y0

RACIST! RACIST! RACIST!

First, there is video showing the white guy's unprovoked attack on the black man. So, there's no comparison to a case where we don't know who first got physical.

But, what makes you truly stupid and an utterly incompetent researcher is that the black man was charged:

Phoenix Taco Bell shooting suspect indicted

IDIOT! IDIOT! IDIOT!

Now, run away from your hilarious flub, you always do.

No, no no! Not good enough! HE SHOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED AND CHARGED RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX! RACISM!

Also, if he is acquitted, RACISM!

What a sad little toddler you are. You are either to stupid to think of checking, too lazy to do the research, too dishonest to report accurately, or too delusional to think you'd get caught. You get busted and have too little accountability to expression contrition for your huge flub and are too dishonorable to feel any shame. No, you simply declare victory, anyhow.

Wow, that's just pathetic. COWARD! COWARD! COWARD!

Oh well, now it's clear, as if it wasn't already, what to make of all the "facts" Cannonpointer's been spewing or, even worse, actually believes.

Son, you claimed that the JURORS did not want to let him off. Then you present ONE juror who complained she was outnumbered and - what? wanted to go home? So she let a murderer go?

That is her actual story, yes?

15 minutes is what she's looking for. The other five make a liar of you. Google "plural."

[Cannonpointer]

Man! You're like a racist punching bag. You're crying because he had no duty to retreat under Florida law? Son, he had no OPPORTUNITY to retreat. Trayvon - the athletic mma sport fighter - did not circle back and confront him to "talk." He went to kick his "CRACKER" ass, because he was a racist.

If this were precisely reversed - if Trayvon was mestizo (or, "white," as you dishonestly call it), and Zimm was black, you would be using the fact that Trayvon called Zimm a "creepy ass nigger" before setting out on his errand of mischief as absolute proof of bad intentions, you hypocritical race baiter.

The boy uttered a racial slur, and left the safety of his home (whatever "home" means, by gosh by golly) to encircle and surprise the "cracker" that had pissed the sport fighter off.

Racist thug, meet gunman. O to the O to the P to the S, OOPS.

Race card played, and TRUMP. Cracker = nigger = racist = guilty. Your meme, live with it.

[O Really]

Well Cannon, I'm just going to have to leave you in your own world on the Zimmerman topic. Trial's over. But your story is based on information not presented in evidence, or at least subject to conjecture. So have at it, I'm bored with the topic and will happily engage with you on others more interesting.

[homerfobe]

Can't believe the libtards are still pissing, spitting, and shitting over the Martin/Zimmerman crap. Give 'em a little room and they run screaming from now on.
Get over it. What's done is done, right or wrong. Your shitting your britches every day over isn't going to change a damn thing.

[Cannonpointer]

Can't believe the libtards are still pissing, spitting, and shitting over the Martin/Zimmerman crap. Give 'em a little room and they run screaming from now on.
Get over it. What's done is done, right or wrong. Your shitting your britches every day over isn't going to change a damn thing.

Not all liberals - just the whiney progressives who see liberalism as a prescription rather than a description.

Notice the little fraud above your post, Vrede, breaks my post down into 30 or 40 snippets, snarking at each one - as if anyone is gonna do more than skim all that full-diaper sniveling. Then, he will accusing me of "ducking" his shot gun spray of ignorant progvomit, based on whichever snark I don't snark back at.

But I have busted the little whinr out. He knows FOR SURE that he would NEVER, EVER take up for a hooligan that said "creepy ass NIGGER" before encircling a black man - so it's all good. He gets to live with the sure knowledge of his racist hypocrisy.

NOW I will claim the W.

[Cannonpointer]

You misunderstand, homerfobe. It is done, and GZ created his own hell. I'm just having fun demonstrating that a GZ worshipper is a liar, fool and coward just like GZ. Notice that Cannonpointer's become incapable of even trying to respond topically. Thanks for your concern, though.

Yes, nothing AT ALL "topical" about your racist hypocrisy. Calling "cracker" before encircling an confronting your opponent is perfectly acceptable and NOT AT ALL a sign of hostile intent, and calling "nigger" before hand would have been PROOF POSITIVE of hostile intent.

You're a racist, and a hypocrite. I win.

Thank you for playing.

[Cannonpointer]

Time for the Big Reveal.

My original goal was to make you talk to yourself, nancy. Game over.

[Cannonpointer]

Cool, mine is demonstrating that GZ worshippers are liars, fools and cowards just like GZ. Win-win.

I have some GREAT news about your butt hurt, Vrede:

Obamacare covers that (even though I suspect it is a pre-existing condition).

[Cannonpointer]

If declaring victory without evidence worked, Karl Rove would be a genius and Mitten would be POTUS.

And if the kind of butt hurt you're feeling had a cure, you'd be sittin' easy.

[homerfobe]

I hear your obsession, it's something else you have in common with homerfobe.

Your're the one with the butt obsession. You think it's OK and perfectly normal for some bend over Billy to have his ass reamed out by some lowlife with a
shit-hole attraction. If that's what turns you on, you're an equal lowlife.

[Mr.B]

Opps! A "Darwin Award" Winner!

[Cannonpointer]

Five dead at four locations after shooting spree in Texas town

...Terrell, a town of 16,000...

Terrell is in Kaufman County, where Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse and District Attorney Mike McLelland and his wife, Cynthia Woodward McLelland, were killed earlier this year. A former local justice of the peace, Eric L. Williams, and his wife, Kim, have been charged in those killings.

Isn't armed small town Texas fortunate that it's safer than gun control NYC?

Am I to infer that you GENUINELY BELIEVE guns laws should be identical in Terrell, Texas and Manhattan?

[O Really]

Five dead at four locations after shooting spree in Texas town

...Terrell, a town of 16,000...

Terrell is in Kaufman County, where Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse and District Attorney Mike McLelland and his wife, Cynthia Woodward McLelland, were killed earlier this year. A former local justice of the peace, Eric L. Williams, and his wife, Kim, have been charged in those killings.

Isn't armed small town Texas fortunate that it's safer than gun control NYC?

Am I to infer that you GENUINELY BELIEVE guns laws should be identical in Terrell, Texas and Manhattan?

Congratulations on your proper grammatical use of "infer." Most get it wrong.

In my case, since I think gun laws should be uniform nationally (it is, after all, a national Constitutional right), then yes, I do.

[Cannonpointer]

I hear your obsession, it's something else you have in common with homerfobe.

Given the last two posts, it seems this thread has wound down. But Nancy ^^^ is crowing that he "ran me out of" this thread, elsewhere.

Well, Nancy, what we discovered in this thread is that you are a race baiting queen who would applaud the death of a 17 year old zygote if that zygote had used the word nigger, but can't get over your butt hurt about the death of a thug that said cracker.

"Oh, it was rash..." you will wheedle. But if the word had been nigger, we all know where your race-hating ass would have gone with it. That word would not have been "rash," but REVEALING. The kid would have been on a CLEAR errand of mischief. His motives would not be in question.

You little hypocrite, you have in this very thread parsed the word, "home," notwithstanding it was used in a clear and unequivocal context, in order to defend the racist toddler who encircled to confront from ambush a decent, law abiding citizen whose only crime was being poorly trained in his neighborhood watch duties.

IS you a racist hypocrite? Depends on the definition of is, racist hypocrite.

Hold on - I went and got a definition. You is.

[Cannonpointer]

Five dead at four locations after shooting spree in Texas town

...Terrell, a town of 16,000...

Terrell is in Kaufman County, where Assistant District Attorney Mark Hasse and District Attorney Mike McLelland and his wife, Cynthia Woodward McLelland, were killed earlier this year. A former local justice of the peace, Eric L. Williams, and his wife, Kim, have been charged in those killings.

Isn't armed small town Texas fortunate that it's safer than gun control NYC?

Am I to infer that you GENUINELY BELIEVE guns laws should be identical in Terrell, Texas and Manhattan?

Congratulations on your proper grammatical use of "infer." Most get it wrong.

In my case, since I think gun laws should be uniform nationally (it is, after all, a national Constitutional right), then yes, I do.

I can understand purism from the right. I think it is silly and petulant, but I understand it.

It is nothing to see a 15 year old carrying a 22 rifle in Western Montana. A kid walking down the road in Manhattan with a 22 rifle? That should get more attention from authorities.

This notion that the Constitution foresees and protects the right of folks to pack in circumstances of 150,000 people per square mile with no distinction between that and areas where the population is 11 people per square mile - this I find preposterous. But at least you DO have the second amendment to bolster your argument. I cannot imagine on what My Little Pony fantasies Vrede bases HIS argument that Terrell and Manhattan should have identical gun laws.

[O Really]

This notion that the Constitution foresees and protects the right of folks to pack in circumstances of 150,000 people per square mile with no distinction between that and areas where the population is 11 people per square mile - this I find preposterous. But at least you DO have the second amendment to bolster your argument.....

I do indeed. Absent the Second Amendment, states, counties, villages (with or without idiots) could all make up their own rules. Sorta like now except without having to deal with the Second. Absent the Second, we'd have firearm registration, much like auto registration, and more criminal and civil penalties for all those who successfully use the "opps" defense. Not that the Second actually makes unlimited possession and use of firearms legal, but the crazier leaders of the NRA think so and spend a lot of money to buy Congressmen to make it seem so. Therefore, if the legal basis for all gun laws is in the US Constitution, is it not reasonable that all laws governing purchase, possession, and use be federal laws, uniform across the states?

As to whether the Constitution forsees packing in a crowd, I'd say it does not. But again, it did no foresee AR-15's and high capacity magazines being a part of the regular citizens' arsenal, either. But that doesn't stop the NRA and its Congressional serfs from arguing from that perspective.

Nevertheless, there is nothing in a (theoretical) federal law to prevent having different possession standards in differing population areas. Like now with state laws - no guns in place X, guns OK in place Y. Outside city limits is different from in city limits. No problem. Just make it universal for all.

[rstrong]

Poor thing wets his drawers when shown to be a screw up.

Aw, c'mon, go easy on him. I had a good laugh when he told us how Martin had "drug precursors" (Skittles. Really. Skittles.) on him.

[Mr.B]

Hmmm....Nancy and Sally.....wonder why those names conjure up visions of first grade readers?
(Vrede...I don't want to hear a damn thing about Spot!)

[Cannonpointer]

Hmmm....Nancy and Sally.....wonder why those names conjure up visions of first grade readers?
(Vrede...I don't want to hear a damn thing about Spot!)

Interesting question, given that every time I argue with Vrede, I see Dick run - run, run, run.